European Animals in US zoos

[drill]

List i can think of
Long-nosed viper
European goldfinch
Alpine chamois
Dybowski deer
Red deer
Mouflon
Alpine ibex
European adder
other European snakes i can think of
Eurasian elk
Eurasian barn owl
Eurasian griffon vulture
Black kite
White-tailed sea eagle
Others i can't think of

 

[ThylacineAlive]

List i can think of
Long-nosed viper
European goldfinch
Alpine chamois
Dybowski deer
Red deer
Mouflon
Alpine ibex
European adder
other European snakes i can think of
Eurasian elk
Eurasian barn owl
Eurasian griffon vulture
Black kite
White-tailed sea eagle
Others i can't think of

Who in the US keeps Alpine Chamois, Dybowski Deer, "Eurasian Elk", and "Eurasian Barn Owl"?

*quotations for names with can refer to multiple taxa.

~Thylo

 

[drill]

Who in the US keeps Alpine Chamois, Dybowski Deer, "Eurasian Elk", and "Eurasian Barn Owl"?

*quotations for names with can refer to multiple taxa.

~Thylo

Tennessee safari in Alamo for the first two. according to Photoark, Cheyenne Mountain for elk and World Bird Sanctuary for Barn/ also tawny owls. Forgot Ural owl which is at the bird of prey center in SC.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

Tennessee safari in Alamo for the first two. according to Photoark, Cheyenne Mountain for elk and World Bird Sanctuary for Barn/ also tawny owls. Forgot Ural owl which is at the bird of prey center in SC.

Interesting. What exactly is meant by "Eurasian elk" and "Eurasian Barn Owl", though? There are various subspecies of both within Europe, and as the name "Eurasian" describes, also in Asia.

~Thylo

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Interesting. What exactly is meant by "Eurasian elk" and "Eurasian Barn Owl", though? There are various subspecies of both within Europe, and as the name "Eurasian" describes, also in Asia.

Both are different species to their American congeners, however.

 

[Cyclone]

I'm a little surprised the European bison is really not in the mix there

 

[ThylacineAlive]

Both are different species to their American congeners, however.

Indeed but I'm wondering if we're actually talking about the European species here. Bactrian Deer are present in the US, as are nonspecific Red Deer of unknown origin and I'm wondering if either of these are what's referred to. As for the owl, I'm wondering where the "Eurasian" designation comes from as it would be the only in the US.

~Thylo

 

[birdsandbats]

As for the owl, I'm wondering where the "Eurasian" designation comes from as it would be the only in the US.

World Bird Sanctuary signs their Barn Owls as "British Barn Owls".

List i can think of
Long-nosed viper
European goldfinch
Alpine chamois
Dybowski deer
Red deer
Mouflon
Alpine ibex
European adder
other European snakes i can think of
Eurasian elk
Eurasian barn owl
Eurasian griffon vulture
Black kite
White-tailed sea eagle
Others i can't think of

Great Tit, House Sparrow, European Starling, Waldrapp Ibis, Eurasian Wolverine, Wild Boar, European Glass Lizard, Common and Italian Wall Lizards.

 

[TinoPup]

When I was at Bronx a few weeks ago, they had 1 male and 3 female capercaillie on exhibit. The male was trying very hard to impress the girls, the girls wanted him to go the hell away.

 

[Chlidonias]

Interesting. What exactly is meant by "Eurasian elk" and "Eurasian Barn Owl", though? There are various subspecies of both within Europe, and as the name "Eurasian" describes, also in Asia.

Both are different species to their American congeners, however.

drill's list had both "Red Deer" and "Eurasian Elk", so which usage of elk is he using? I doubt there are European Moose in American zoos, but otherwise why have both "Red Deer" and "Eurasian Elk"?

 

[loxodonta]

If you look back at the Catskills great sell off they had quite a few european species go to private facilities

 

[ThylacineAlive]

If you look back at the Catskills great sell off they had quite a few european species go to private facilities

Indeed. I'd imagine any Wisent left would be descended from their stock. Problem is we don't know where most of those species left or what populations are still around.

~Thylo

 

[vogelcommando]

Another species not mentioned yet, the Caspian pelican. In European collections this species is meanwhile relative common ( Zootierliste mention 87 collections keeping it - and a good number of these breeding them ) but from the time ISIS was still open-acces ( around 2010 ) I remember I was wondering that very few North American collections kept the species. I must have some notes about it but can't find them at the moment but at that time - 10 years ago - between 1 and 4 N-A collections had Caspian pelicans in their collection San Diego Zoo or both San Diego-collections for sure.

 

[drill]

World Bird Sanctuary signs their Barn Owls as "British Barn Owls".

Great Tit, House Sparrow, European Starling, Waldrapp Ibis, Eurasian Wolverine, Wild Boar, European Glass Lizard, Common and Italian Wall Lizards.

only boar and waldrapp i think exhibited here.

 

[ThylacineAlive]

Another species not mentioned yet, the Caspian pelican. In European collections this species is meanwhile relative common ( Zootierliste mention 87 collections keeping it - and a good number of these breeding them ) but from the time ISIS was still open-acces ( around 2010 ) I remember I was wondering that very few North American collections kept the species. I must have some notes about it but can't find them at the moment but at that time - 10 years ago - between 1 and 4 N-A collections had Caspian pelicans in their collection San Diego Zoo or both San Diego-collections for sure.

I saw them at Dallas Zoo last year and I think the San Diego Zoo Safari Park still has them.

only boar and waldrapp i think exhibited here.

As discussed earlier in the conversation, Eurasian Wolverines are present and even possibly more common here than the American variety, and the glass lizard is an extremely common zoo species. The sparrow and starling are extremely common introduced species so likely pop up in collections from time to time, even if accidentally. The tit I don't know about, seen Eurasian Goldfinch and Bearded Reedling around before, though. The wall lizards are also introduced, though I don't know of any collections that actually keep them. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of the boar we have here are hybrids to some degree.

Any clarification on the Cheyenne Mountain or World Bird Sanctuary animals?

~Thylo

 

[birdsandbats]

only boar and waldrapp i think exhibited here.

I'm talking about species kept anywhere.

 

[birdsandbats]

The tit I don't know about,

Not sure if any zoos keep it, but it's a pretty common species in private collections. Plus we have an introduced population.

 

[drill]

Forgot to mention that European birds are kept in pet stores in America. Sylvan Heights keeps European blackbird, Ruff, and European waterfowl species like Garganey (also kept at Baton Rouge Zoo).

 

[vogelcommando]

Another species not mentioned yet, the Caspian pelican. In European collections this species is meanwhile relative common ( Zootierliste mention 87 collections keeping it - and a good number of these breeding them ) but from the time ISIS was still open-acces ( around 2010 ) I remember I was wondering that very few North American collections kept the species. I must have some notes about it but can't find them at the moment but at that time - 10 years ago - between 1 and 4 N-A collections had Caspian pelicans in their collection San Diego Zoo or both San Diego-collections for sure.

Found at least my notes and in Feb. 2009 ISIS only mention the San Diego Wild Animal Park as holder of Caspian pelicans in North America. A group of 6-5 was kept at that moment.
Does anybody know if the species is still kept at the Safari Park and if there are in the meantime other holders of the species ( next to the Dallas Zoo mentioned by ThylacineAlive ) ?

 

[drill]

Found at least my notes and in Feb. 2009 ISIS only mention the San Diego Wild Animal Park as holder of Caspian pelicans in North America. A group of 6-5 was kept at that moment.
Does anybody know if the species is still kept at the Safari Park and if there are in the meantime other holders of the species ( next to the Dallas Zoo mentioned by ThylacineAlive ) ?

Great white pelicans at Fort Wayne Zoo and Dalmatian pelicans at Toledo.