European (Tea)Cup - League C - Zoo Berlin vs Frankfurt

[TeaLovingDave]

This time round, we shall take a look at a pair of much-loved German collections which have each already gone through two matches apiece - and the category is one which I feel will spark much debate: BIRDS.

I hope that my suspicions will be borne out, and that the coming three days herald a hard-fought discussion on both sides.....

 

[TeaLovingDave]

I feel this is a match which would have been a lot closer even six or seven years ago, but which now represents a fairly easy win for Zoo Berlin as a result of the *significant* decline of the bird house and associated exhibits at Zoo Frankfurt, alongside the large number of very good category exhibits which still exist at Zoo Berlin.

As such, a solid 4:1 vote for Berlin, with the single dissenting point almost solely being earned by the work Zoo Frankfurt has undertaken in breeding Northern Brown Kiwi and helping to keep the species established in European collections.

 

[lintworm]

Even 10 years ago this would have been an easy win for Berlin. These are 2 zoos with a very similar approach to displaying birds, but Berlin just has 3-4 times the number of species. The relative decline of the Frankfurt bird house doesn't help, but that house wasn't a real strength to start with.

The good part for birds in Frankfurt is mainly the kiwi breeding and a rather excellent Humboldt's penguin enclosure.

Apart from the shorebird aviary in Berlin I don't think there are many great exhibits there either, but there is a solid mass of average-good aviaries, so an easy win.

 

[CrashMegaraptor]

Whenever I tell people about Berlin Zoo, I always, without fail, point out their bird house. Maybe the enclosures are a little more old-school, but in terms of quantity, it's just amazing. Plus, the theming of each of the four "quarters" being for a separate continent is a nice touch. The walkthrough section in the middle is alright, I've seen flashier before, but I really did enjoy their kiwi exhibit.

The new eagle aviaries were being built when I last went, so I don't have an opinion on that.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Per the Cup rules, I require a post from @Leaf Productions discussing why he has given a 5:0 vote to Berlin, and sufficient justification must be presented for his vote to stand.

Alternatively, he should alter his vote.

 

[snowleopard]

Berlin Zoo easily wins this category. The new-ish Bird House, with its 35+ aviaries plus two walk-through sections, is terrific for bird nerds. Then there's the Shorebird Aviary with Inca Terns flying over the heads of visitors and a wave machine in the water. Berlin also has the Pheasantry, all those flamingo species, the excellent Eagle Canyon (renovated from 2015 to 2018), Penguin World, etc.

In comparison, Frankfurt Zoo has its historic Bird House that had 40 species when I was there in 2019, but the glass enclosures look like reptile terrariums from afar and seem outdated for birds. Outside the building is the series of 'Biotope Aviaries', but this whole area might appear different since my visit. The penguin complex looks nice.

4-1 Berlin Zoo is my vote.

 

[CrashMegaraptor]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot that Berlin had nearly every single species of flamingo, including one of only two collections to have Andean, and THE only place to see Puna.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Still awaiting any indication from @Leaf Productions that he intends to follow Cup rules by either posting sufficient explanation for his 5:0 vote or amending said vote.

It will be discounted if nothing changes in the next 24 hours or so.

 

[CrashMegaraptor]

For anyone still doubting just how extensive Berlin's bird collection is, here's the full list that ZTL has.

Spoiler

Ostriches
-Common Ostrich

Rheas
-Lesser Rhea

Kiwis
-North Island Brown Kiwi

Cassowaries
-Southern Cassowary
-Emu

Waterfowl
-Northern Pintail
-Bernier's Teal
-Eurasian Teal
-Philippine Duck
-Yellow-Billed Duck
-Lesser White-Fronted Goose
-White-Winged Duck
-European Pochard
-Tufted Duck
-European Scaup
-Ferruginous Duck
-Barnacle Goose
-Red-Breasted Goose
-Hawaiian Goose
-Common Goldeneye
-Crested Screamer
-Coscoroba Swan
-Blue-Winged Goose
-Fulvous Whistling Duck
-White-Faced Whistling Duck
-Hooded Merganser
-Chiloe Wigeon
-Marbled Teal
-Smew
-Rosy-Billed Pochard
-Red-Crested Pochard
-North American Ruddy Duck
-Baikal Teal
-Common Eider
-Northern Shoveler
-Cinnamon Teal
-Hottentot Teal
-Garganey
-Common Shelduck

Landfowl
-Alpine Rock Partridge
-Collared Partridge
-Great Argus
-Cheer Pheasant
-Lady Amherst's Pheasant
-Harlequin Quail
-Great Curassow
-Red Junglefowl
-Grey Junglefowl
-Edwards' Pheasant
-Malayan Crestless Fireback
-Grey Partridge
-Blue-Throated Piping-Quan
-Germain's Peacock-Pheasant
-Yellow-Necked Francolin
-Crested Wood Partridge
-Elliot's Pheasant
-Temminck's Tragopan

Frogmouths
-Tawny Frogmouth

Turacos
-White-Bellied Go-Away Bird
-Red-Crested Turaco
-Violet Turaco

Cuckoos
-White-Browed Coucal
-Guira Cuckoo
-Channel-Billed Cuckoo

Sandgrouse
-Black-Bellied Sandgrouse

Pigeons
-Nicobar Pigeon
-Rock Pigeon
-Mindanao Bleeding-Heart
-Luzon Bleeding-Heart
-Cinnamon Ground Dove
-Western Crowned Pigeon
-Wonga Pigeon
-Malagasy Turtle Dove
-Crested Pigeon
-Namaqua Dove
-White-Naped Pheasant-Pigeon
-Orange-Fronted Fruit Dove
-Red-Bellied Fruit Dove
-Orange-Bellied Fruit Dove
-Black-Naped Fruit Dove
-European Turtle Dove
-Socorro Dove

Cranes & Rails
-Grey Crowned Crane
-European Crane
-Red-Crowned Crane
-Grey-Winged Trumpeter

Flamingos
-Lesser Flamingo
-Andean Flamingo
-Puna Flamingo
-Chilean Flamingo
-Greater Flamingo

Shorebirds
-Ruddy Turnstone
-Spotted Thick-Knee
-Eurasian Oystercatcher
-Black-Necked Stilt
-Inca Tern
-Eurasian Curlew
-Pied Avocet

Sunbittern & Kagu
-Sunbittern
-Kagu

Penguins
-King Penguin
-Northern Rockhopper Penguin
-African Penguin
-Humboldt Penguin

Storks
-Abdim's Stork
-White Stork
-Black Stork
-Marabou Stork

Pelicans & Herons
-Javan Pond Heron
-Cattle Egret
-Northern Bald Ibis
-Little Bittern
-Madagascar Crested Ibus
-Australian Pelican
-Dalmatian Pelican
-American Pelican
-Pink-Backed Pelican
-Eurasian Spoonbill
-Puna Ibis
-Hamerkop

Birds of Prey
-Bearded Vulture
-Palm-Nut Vulture
-Eurasian Griffon Vulture
-Ruppell's Griffon Vulture
-African Fish Eagle
-Hooded Vulture
-Egyptian Vulture
-Harris' Hawk
-Secretary Bird
-King Vulture
-Bateleur Eagle
-White-Headed Vulture
-Andean Condor

Owls
-Eurasian Eagle Owl
-Snowy Owl
-Common Scops Owl
-Spectacled Owl
-Great Grey Owl

Mousebirds
-Blue-Naped Mousebird

Hornbills
-Southern Ground Hornbill
-Silvery-Cheeked Hornbill
-Visayan Tarictic Hornbill

Rollers & Kingfishers
-Blue-Bellied Roller
-Blue-Winged Kookaburra
-Brown-Hooded Kingfisher
-European Bee-Eater
-White-Fronted Bee-Eater
-Blue-Crowned Motmot

Woodpeckers & Toucans
-Bearded Barbet
-Black-Necked Aracari
-Red & Yellow Barbet

Seriemas
-Red-Legged Seriema

Falcons
-Crested Caracara

Parrots
-Cuban Amazon
-Lilacine Amazon
-Hyacinth Macaw
-Military Macaw
-Sun Conure
-Umbrella Cockatoo
-Citron-Crested Cockatoo
-Red-Tailed Black Cockatoo
-Yellow-Fronted Parakeet
-Swift Parrot
-Blue-Crowned Hanging Parrot
-Purple-Naped Lory
-Turquoise Parrot
-Kea
-Blue-Winged Macaw
-Hooded Parrot

Passerines
-Asian Glossy Starling
-Northern Cardinal
-Gouldian Finch
-Orange-Bellied Leafbird
-Spotted Palm-Thrush
-Amethyst Starling
-White-Rumped Shama
-White-Necked Raven
-Spangled Cotinga
-Yellow-Fronted Canary
-Black-Faced Dacnis
-Grey-Headed Oliveback
-White-Headed Buffalo Weaver
-Painted Firetail
-Blue-Faced Honeyeater
-Red-Throated Parrotfinch
-Common Waxbill
-Sumatran Laughingthrush
-Orange-Headed Thrush
-Lavender Waxbill
-Yellow Cardinal
-Montserrat Oriole
-Greater Blue-Eared Glossy Starling
-Ruppell's Glossy Starling
-Golden-Breasted Starling
-Yellow-Crowned Gonolek
-Long-Tailed Fiscal
-Red-Billed Leiothrix
-Bali Myna
-Emei Shan Liocichla
-African Golden Oriole
-African Quailfinch
-Java Sparrow
-Bearded Reedling
-Blue Grosbeak
-Taveta Weaver
-Village Weaver
-Long-Tailed Finch
-Black-Throated Finch
-Blue-Crowned Laughingthrush
-Red-Whiskered Bulbul
-Yellow-Winged Pytilia
-Brazilian Tanager
-Western Bluebill
-Diamond Firetail
-Ochre Tanager
-Double-Banded Finch
-Australian Zebra Finch
-Paradise Tanager
-Turquoise Tanager
-Swallow Tanager
-White-Winged Blue-Grey Tanager
-Blue-Capped Cordonbleu
-Red-Billed Blue Magpie
-Kilimanjaro White-Ete
-African Yellow White-Eye

 

[TeaLovingDave]

A very clear-cut result from early on; please note that the single 5:0 vote from @Leaf Productions has been disregarded per Cup rules.

Zoo Berlin - 91/115 points - 79.130%
Frankfurt - 24/115 points - 20.870%

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