European (Tea)Cup - League C - Zoo Berlin vs London/Whipsnade

Zoo Berlin vs London/Whipsnade - CARNIVORES


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Much like the opening match over in League A, this one features two very old and historically-significant collections (plus the relatively-sprightly younger brother of the British competitor); however, the scope of this match is a *little* more narrow, being focused specifically on CARNIVORES. For clarification, this means the mammalian group rather than the dietary niche!

There are a lot of angles at which one may choose to approach the question of how to choose where to assign your votes - species, exhibits, conservation - but I will remind you all of one long-standing rule - future plans and developments at a collection are out of bounds for consideration, and it is the current status quo which we are discussing and voting on. For instance, if either Pairi Daiza or Beauval were to be assigned the category of "Primates" at some point, the upcoming Golden Snub-nosed Monkeys would not be permissible as a reason to vote for them until they have actually arrived. Similarly, if a large area is currently under construction or redevelopment, it is ineligible for consideration.

Another point which bears repeating from my introductory post: if one gives a 5-0 vote, you MUST provide appropriate justification for this in-thread. Any such votes which are either unexplained, or break the rules of fair play in some fashion, will be void.

You have three days to discuss, debate and vote - enjoy!
 
Whipsnade has few excellent Carnivore exhibits - Brown Bear, Wolverine and Siberian Tigers comes to mind, while London has the not everyone's "Cup of Tea" Indian Lion village with the great rarity( Small Indian Mongoose) and Sumatran Tiger facility.

Berlin on the other side has arond 50 % more spieces than the ZSL collections combined. One of the best outdoor Giant Panda facilities; resently opened Carnivore House with great Malgashy Carnivores breeding record and nocturnal section; newly renoveted Brown Bear/ Wolf exhibit and enlarged Sloth Bear area.

I't is very hard mach for Berlin to face two mighty opponents, but I will give them slight edge. I'm taking on consideration the tendency of ZSL of reducing their collection during the last decade. Whipsnade has enormous non-used potential in my opinion and AFAIK they didn't replace the sad lost of the last Sri Lanka Sloth Bear. Also the both zoos have the same spieces of Big Cats ( although different ssp).
 
Would I rather be a carnivore in ZSL or Berlin, probably in ZSL. Even with the renovated carnivore house, the enclosures, for big cats (lions excluded) are still underwhelming, even when the cavalerie might be underway. Also bonus points for Whipsnade's bear exhibit that is almost a 100 years old and still looks superior to what Berlin has.
 
This is a real strong suit for ZSL. Haven't been to Berlin, but of all the collections I haven't yet visited it is probably the one I am most well-researched in and I feel fairly confident in saying that ZSL is ahead in this category, enough for a 3-2 vote. That said, as I haven't visited, I will remain open for persuasion if a strong argument in favour of Berlin comes in.

Starting with London's offerings, the Asiatic Lion and Sumatran Tiger enclosures, at around 2,500 sqm and 2,000 sqm respectively, are some of the largest and most attractive big cat enclosures to be found in an urban zoo, and both have seen breeding success in recent years. Then, London also has Small Indian Mongoose (only ones in Europe) and Narrow-striped Bokies in terms of rarities, both in very much adequate enclosures. Unfortunately, the remainder of the zoo's carnivore collection lacks anything of real interest.

It is when you take Whipsnade's offerings into account that it becomes interesting. The huge Brown Bear enclosure, at around 6,500 sqm, is not only amazing for the bears, but historically very significant, being all but unchanged since its 1930s opening (back when most zoos still created concrete 'pits' for bears), barring a small extension to the north so as to improve separation options. The longevity and historical value of this enclosure, having been essentially unique in the zoo world at this time, is amazing. There is the huge Siberian Tiger enclosure where the animals have bred repeatedly over the years, which was already elite for its size and abundance of towering, mature trees, but has become even better with the addition of a new climbing structure. Cheetahs have a series of spacious paddocks, and the zoo has one of the best breeding records for the species in Europe. The lynx, red panda, hunting dog and wolverine enclosures are amazing too - even the new meerkat enclosure is huge!

And last but not least, ZSL's in situ conservation work with carnivores must be taken into consideration. I have liked a few articles below from the zoo's website, which only really scratch the surface, but should provide a fairly decent overview:

Sumatran Tiger conservation
Creation of protected areas in Kenya for African Hunting Dogs and Cheetahs
Cheetah conservation
Protecting the Gir Forest national park, home to Asiatic Lions
Work with Grey and Harbour Seals in the Thames
A Badger Vaccination project to prevent the spread of TB in our native European Badgers

I would strongly recommend reading the links above for any who are interested.

From what I can tell, Berlin has a far larger collection, some really nice species (Oncilla, Ring-tailed Vontsira, Giant Panda), hence why they salvage two points here. But none of their exhibits seem quite of the same calibre as the bear, tiger or cheetah enclosures at Whipsnade, for example, and some, like the tigers and jaguars, seem to still be a little mediocre despite recent renovations to their building (would be curious to know if I am missing something, as I have heard a lot of praise for 'Reich der Jäger' but from photos can't quite see where it's coming from).

As I say, I am very open to persuasion, but feel fairly confident with a 3-2 vote in ZSL's favour for the time being.
 
ZSL get the extra point for me. Berlin have the collection but, as others have said already, the ZSL zoos have far better exhibits, particularly at Whipsnade. And London do have those mongooses which are possibly worth a point on their own.
 
Are all the small carnivores in Berlin located in Reich der Jäger and Tiere der Nacht only? I couldn't find too many pictures of their full enclosures in those locations or elsewhere.

Berlin's bear enclosures look decent but nothing that can be compared with Whipsnade.
 
Are all the small carnivores in Berlin located in Reich der Jäger and Tiere der Nacht only? I couldn't find too many pictures of their full enclosures in those locations or elsewhere.

Berlin's bear enclosures look decent but nothing that can be compared with Whipsnade.


Ring-tailed Vontsira, Boky- boky, Southern Oncilla, Margay, Dwarf Mongoose, Red Panda (only outdoor) and Sand Cat have indoor and outdoor exhibits in Reich der Jäger. Kinkajou and Fenec fox are in the Tiere der Nach.
 
@ZH5199 - please provide an explanation for your 5-0 vote per the explicitly stated rules, or your vote will be disregarded entirely.
 
Berlin's bear enclosures look decent but nothing that can be compared with Whipsnade.

It is hard for Berlin as a city zoo to match the forest setting of Whipsnade, but they really made a step in a right direction. They extended the former Asian Black Bear exhibit and made it suitable for bringing back the trio of Brown Bears. It was important decision from historical and cultural stand point as well.

They also acknowledged the outdated state of the Polar Bear exhibit and inspite the public pressure didn’t brought them back in the center of the capital.

It is true that the Jaguar and Leopard living in a not large-enough exhibits, yet, but the Lion Rock is a true gem.
 
It is hard for Berlin as a city zoo to match the forest setting of Whipsnade, but they really made a step in a right direction. They extended the former Asian Black Bear exhibit and made it suitable for bringing back the trio of Brown Bears. It was important decision from historical and cultural stand point as well.

They also acknowledged the outdated state of the Polar Bear exhibit and inspite the public pressure didn’t brought them back in the center of the capital.

It is true that the Jaguar and Leopard living in a not large-enough exhibits, yet, but the Lion Rock is a true gem.
I agree. I quite like the look of their sloth bear enclosure.
 
I will abstain from voting since I had not visited either ZSL zoo. While I am a sucker for Berlin’s species diversity, the points for London are quite convincing. Berlin could get rid of one of the big cats to replace them with a cooler species or merge their enclosure with another enclosure. I also appreciate the fact that ZSL seems content with having red pandas in one zoo rather than having them in both parks.
 
Thought I would provide some photos and descriptions for some of the Whipsnade exhibits, just in case any voters aren't familiar with them.

European Brown Bear:

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Credit: @twilighter - a panoramic view of the gargantuan (6,500 sqm or 1.6 acre) enclosure, that also shows the beauty of the forested portions, and the old, rusted fencing, a testament to the enclosure's age. From experience (and with the caveat that I am much more familiar with the bears at Whipsnade than elsewhere), this is one of the few places where you are essentially guaranteed to see some activity from the inhabitants, whether it is making use of the pool or foraging for food in the long grass. Even if the bears are further back in the woodland, the occasional glimpses of one moving between the trees can, at times, be even more memorable than an up-close view!

The enclosure isn't entirely untouched since its 1931 opening - the pool is new, as is the glass-fronted viewing shelter to the right of the image above. And to the far left, a small extension was added very recently to fix the lack of separation options (bears once had to be locked indoors if separation was necessary), which was just about the only thing that had aged poorly about this enclosure. The longevity is amazing!

Wolverine:

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Credit: @Dr. Loxodonta - showing roughly two thirds (perhaps even less) of the enclosure. No illusions, it really does stretch that far back, covering 2,900 sqm (0.7 acres). Some of the trees are 'climb-proof,' but most of them can be fully accessed by the wolverines. There are good separation options, and as seen in the image, plenty of thick bushes and rolling terrain for cover and privacy.

Siberian Tiger:

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Credit: @twilighter - again shows roughly two thirds. The beautiful foliage and size of the enclosure is best appreciable here, but the small climbing apparatus has since been replaced with a far bigger one pictured below:

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@Lafone - the pond appears drained here because it had just been expanded when the photo was taken, but it is filled on most days.

The tiger outdoor enclosure totals 3,600 sqm (0.9 acres).

Cheetah:

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Credit: @JamesB - a fairly old photo, as there are weirdly no new ones showing the whole space in the gallery, but the enclosure today looks fairly similar to this. There are three onshow enclosures (totalling 3,900 sqm, around 1 acre, even excluding the moats), of which this is the largest, plus a more (not sure how many, maybe just the one) offshow. And given that, as mentioned earlier, Whipsnade is one of the most successful breeders of cheetah in Europe, they are clearly doing something right.

Lion:

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Credit: @MagpieGoose - frustratingly, no photos on the gallery provide a good view of this enclosure, presumably because the hill in the centre makes it hard to see the whole thing at once. But it is a huge enclosure at 6,100 sqm (1.5 acres) - and, if both animals are active, which admittedly isn't often, there is quite a memorable predator-prey setup with the ostrich in the field in front. Two months ago, cubs were born - the zoo claims they are subspecies-pure Barbary, but there is rightly some dispute over the accuracy of those claims.

Northern Lynx:

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Credit: @MagpieGoose - one of the first enclosures seen after entering the zoo, it is one of the most attractively planted lynx enclosures that I have seen, and offers plenty of space.

African Hunting Dog:

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Credit: @gulogulogulo - what is surely one of the largest enclosures in Europe for the species, at 5,000 sqm (1.2 acres). Plenty of space, many dens and a sizable indoor area. Sadly, there are no enclosures depicting the full enclosure in the sumer, when the huge trees in the background are fully leaved and the grass is considerably longer. A shame the enclosure no longer holds wolves, who suited the distinctly European vegetation much better, but all the same, the experience of searching for the hunting dogs amongst the long grass is quite something.

Red Panda:

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Credit: @MagpieGoose - I am not sure if I have ever seen a Red Panda enclosure even close to this one in terms of size, at 1,000 sqm! I could be mistaken, as I am not familiar enough with Berlin to guarantee that I have accurately drawn the boundaries, but I believe that is only marginally smaller than Berlin's outdoor lion enclosure! The number and height of some of the trees at Whipsnade is also incredibly impressive, as the above photo demonstrates.

Asian Short-clawed Otter:

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Credit: @MagpieGoose - not the most glamorous of enclosures, but an aesthetically pleasing and very effective repurposing of what was actually once a seal pool!

Meerkat:

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Credit: @Kalaw - last but not least we have the most ubiquitous of zoo animals, the Meerkat. A former Red River Hog enclosure that they share with porcupines (and aardvarks at certain times) it spans an absurd 1,500 square metres, which unless I am misdrawing the boundaries, is more space than Berlin offers their lions. Not to mention its welcome variety of substrates, some of which enable digging, something that surprisingly few meerkat enclosures in zoos facilitate.

All the above measurements came from the google maps area calculator tool, so should be accurate so long as I have correctly judged whereabouts the enclosure barriers are, which I believe I have.

As twilighter correctly pointed out, ZSL's carnivore collection is in a slight decline (there are no plans to replace the sloth bear, sadly, whose enclosure now houses Babirusa and Javan Langurs) - but in terms of exhibitry, the reverse is happenig, as some very commendable improvements have been made to the carnivore enclosures in recent years. The Meerkat and Red Panda enclosures were both too small, but now the former have a huge lawn with various substrates for burrowing and foraging, and the latter have a massive island. The tiger and brown bear enclosures were already world-class but each had minor issues (lack of climbing in the former, lack of separation options in the latter), which over the past two years have been accounted for. If I am not mistaken, the hunting dog indoor space has been renovated recently as well.

I know that I am repeating myself, but I want to say it again for full clarity - I have never been to Zoo Berlin, whereas both ZSL collections are my locals. I know a lot more about one contestant than the other, and therefore I have a bias that is quite difficult to account for.

But then again, Whipsnade's meerkat enclosure is bigger than Berlin's lion enclosure - the gulf in the standards of exhibitry in ZSL's favour is arguably, although harder to define, greater than the gulf in collection size in Berlin's favour. When you consider also ZSL's monumental conservation efforts, the historic value of their enclosures, the rarity of the mongooses - to me, I feel comfortable in saying that this isn't just my bias speaking, and that ZSL is genuinely far ahead in this category.
 
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I haven't been to Berlin for a very long time though I have read about in in the Zoos of Germany book and on the forum and it is without doubt an impressive and well managed collection. As such it's hard to give it 'no votes' and I wouldn't vote 5/0. I probably won't vote in the other polls where I haven't been to either place but I feel confident in voting ZSL here in this category, as carnivores are well catered for in both locations. Although I value a lot of animals at a zoo, I'd rather have fewer if they are housed really well. That of course is personal preference.

@Kalaw 's excellent post sums up the Whipsnade enclosures well; the wolverines and bears in particular have great spaces and the wolverines have a second enclosure at the back of the main one pictured above which offers even more space. The Whipsnade enclosures all lend themselves well to viewing too which appears less obvious in photos of Berlin.

I would add the bears are encouraged to climb many of the trees in their enclosure at Whipsnade. Obviously a few years ago some bears climbed out but that was after a tree fell down on a fence and these days the established climbing and other trees are well away from the fenceline. This and the other woodland features give them more opportunities for natural behaviour and a bit more of an unusual experience for visitors.

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It's nice to see that one of the first rounds is one that someone as poorly travelled as myself can chime in on! I've given a 3-2 to ZSL, Berlin certainly has a great collection (though the carnivore house was under renovation on my visit) but the exhibitry at especially Whipsnade certainly trumps it for me. London also has some nice enclosures and a few unusual species too. In the end, it is ZSL for me.
 
I don't need to repeat the reasons given above for giving 3-2 to ZSL, which chime with my own.

I do think, however, if the sea lions were still at Whipsnade, that ZSL would have to slip down a notch. Lucky for them that they don't, RE this poll!
 
I decided that doing a breakdown of the carnivore collections of Berlin zoo and ZSL would be the best idea to pick a winner of this close match up and I thought that I would share it here for those less familiar with the collections.

Big cats -


Berlin -
  1. Lion
  2. Tiger
  3. Jaguar
  4. Leopard
ZSL -
  1. Lion x 2
  2. Tiger x 2
ZSL easily wins this category in my opinion due to its far superior enclosures (particularly at Whipsnade). However Berlin has a larger collection of big cat species.

Small cats -

Berlin -
  1. Sand cat
  2. Southern oncilla
  3. Margay
ZSL -
  1. Lynx
  2. Cheetah
The small carnivore section of Reich der Jäger is one of the highlights of Berlin zoo with great indoor and outdoor enclosures for three small cat species. Although the lynx and cheetah enclosures at Whipsnade are fantastic, in my opinion the rarity of the species at Berlin and the way they are displayed gives Berlin the edge in this category.

Mongooses and Malagasy carnivores

Berlin -
  1. Dwarf mongoose
  2. Meerkat
  3. Ring-tailed vontsira
  4. Narrow-striped boky
ZSL -
  1. Dwarf mongoose
  2. Meerkat x 2
  3. Small Indian mongoose
  4. Narrow-striped boky
Both collections are very similar for this category. Whipsnade's meerkat enclosure possibly gives ZSL the edge in terms of enclosures, however the indoor and outdoor enclosure for ring-tailed vontsira and narrow-striped boky in Reich der Jäger are also very good. It is worth noting that (according to zootierliste) Berlin imported ring-tailed vontsira and narrow-striped boky from Madagascar in 1997. Are the narrow-striped boky at London descended from the original animals at Berlin? If it is the case that the captive population in Europe of these two species descends from Berlin zoos import, then I would give them additional credit for their efforts in creating this population.

Canids

Berlin -
  1. African wild dog
  2. Eurasian wolf
  3. Fennec fox
ZSL-
  1. African wild dog
This is another situation where ZSL wins on enclosure and Berlin wins on species. I have struggled to find many pictures of the enclosures in Berlin, I recall that the fennec fox enclosure in the nocturnal house is quite small. The wild dog and wolf enclosures are decent from memory but are inferior to the wild dog enclosure at Whipsnade. I would personally give a slight lead to Berlin for this category.

Bears

Berlin -
  1. Brown bear
  2. Giant Panda
  3. Sloth Bear
ZSL -
  1. Brown bear
I will give the win to Berlin in this category due to its superior collection and solid enclosures (particularly the panda enclosure). However, it is only a slight win due to Whipsnade's excellent brown bear enclosure. The brown bears returned to Berlin after I visited but I believe their enclosure (as well as the sloth bears') is good enough to fight of the competition from Whipsnade.

Pinnipeds

Berlin -
  1. California sea lion
  2. Harbour seal
ZSL -

None

The enclosures at Berlin for seals and sea lions are nothing special in my opinion but since there is no competion from ZSL, Berlin wins.

Others

Berlin -
  1. Asian small-clawed otter
  2. Kinkajou
  3. Red panda
  4. White-nosed coati
ZSL -
  1. Asian small-clawed otter x 2
  2. South American coati
  3. Red panda
  4. Wolverine
With very similar collections, I award the win to ZSL due the outstanding wolverine enclosure at Whipsnade.

Conclusion

I have decided to vote 3-2 to Berlin. The collection at Berlin is larger than ZSL and it is full of more rare species. The way small carnivores are exhibited in Reich der Jäger is, in my opinion, better than anywhere else that I have seen in person. The remaining carnivore enclosures (in particular big cats) are inferior to those at ZSL which is why I consider this to be a close match, moreover the ZSL collection also contains some interesting species such as the small Indian mongoose. However, the final blow for ZSL is its lack of pinnipeds which gives it a less complete collection of carnivores in my opinion.
 
The London Zoo is the only collection in the competition that I have visited (so .5 of competitors lol), and I have voted 3-2 for it largely based on the arguments that I have seen here. I have also gone through the galleries a bit and reread the sections for both zoos in the Zoos of Great Britain and Ireland and Zoos of Germany books. While ZSL doesn't win in number of species, they have a few rarities of their own and I don't think they are necessarily that far behind here, while the disparity is made up for with the exhibitry (which largely appears to be the consensus here). That being said, I can understand a 3-2 vote the other way for Berlin's richer species list and could be convinced to vote the other way.

However, most the arguments being made here are for ZSL and the ones in favor of Berlin have given it the slight edge because of the better collection. Do the people that voted more heavily in favor of Berlin (@TeaLovingDave, @Veno, @ZH5199) have more to their arguments than the species list? I'd be interested to hear what makes you prefer Berlin to a larger margin than most the voters so far that seem pretty split between the two.
 
It's a tricky one for me, it must be said :rolleyes::D and I agree with many of the points made in favour of ZSL. But...

The carnivore exhibitry at Whipsnade is indeed excellent, but this is definitely a case where one collection is *heavily* picking up the slack from an extremely-underperforming sibling, and that the reverse is also correspondingly true - that the performance of London in this regard drags Whipsnade down from the heights it would otherwise have reached.... and when said performance includes the overthemed, poorly-designed and generally unpleasant Land of the Lions as a significant proportion of the whole, the weight is very heavy indeed.

Berlin does have several failings in this regard too (I agree that the external exhibit for the jaguars sorely requires the extension which is currently underway, for instance) but nothing I dislike as wholeheartedly as the aforementioned exhibit - and it must be noted that it does have several points of distinct strength, including the excellent interior and exterior exhibits for smaller carnivores within the Reich der Jäger house, an attractive exhibit for White-nosed Coati elsewhere in the zoo, the renovated and significantly improved exhibits for Sloth Bear and the Brown Bear / Eurasian Wolf mix, and a Giant Panda exhibit complex which at a total of 7,500 m² is significantly larger than the Whipsnade exhibit for Brown Bear (which is justly held up as one of the gems of ZSL as a whole) and without a shadow of a doubt the best exhibit for Giant Panda I have seen for both the visiting public and the animals within.

And I say all of the above re: the Giant Panda exhibit having gone on the record *several* times that I hate the fact that Zoo Berlin jumped at the chance to demolish one of the last remaining areas of the zoo dating from the 19th century (and more or less undamaged by WWII, even more notably) the moment that the new director Andreas Knieriem was given the opportunity to reacquire the species :p:D at the end of the day, when judging the exhibit purely on the grounds of quality and design I have to give it all the credit it deserves - and acknowledge that it fits in well with the surrounding zoo - despite the fact that my zoo-historian side rages against the unfeeling heavens when I consider what was lost!

Conversely, my zoo-historian side is definitely a large part of why I think so highly of the Reich der Jäger house; when the old carnivore house closed down for extensive renovation shortly after the accession of Knieriem, I felt a strong sense of trepidation considering the general antipathy he displayed towards the preservation of the history of both Zoo Berlin and Tierpark Berlin, and various statements he made over the years which gave the distinct impression that he wanted to completely alter the "feel" and design ethos of both collections to fit his own model much as he had done at Hannover... a zoo I wholeheartedly dislike precisely because of the "feel" and design ethos there! As such, it was a very welcome surprise when I visited Zoo Berlin again in 2023 to find that although a lot *had* changed with the transition to Reich der Jäger, and the house had been modernised and improved in many ways, it still felt very much like Zoo Berlin.

Another point which occurs to me is that a few people have mentioned giving London credit as a result of the presence of Narrow-striped Boky; from what I recall, the exhibit for the species was pretty average and certainly nowhere near as good as the multiple (linked) indoor *and* outdoor exhibits for the species present at Zoo Berlin - granted, it has now been several years since I visited London and as such it is possible that improvements have been made. However, one point which cannot be denied is that Zoo Berlin is the collection responsible for the presence of Narrow-striped Boky outside Madagascar in the first place, having imported the species in the late 1990s and soon afterwards earning the distinction of the first breeding of the species worldwide. On a related note, Berlin is *also* responsible for the establishment in captivity of the Ring-tailed Vontsira - having imported the species around the same time as it did the Boky, and attaining a first captive breeding shortly afterwards - and is the studbook keeper for both taxa. Although I believe in both cases some new blood *was* imported later by Todd Dalton of RSCC fame, neither species would be present in zoological collections outside the native range were it not for Zoo Berlin.

All this is to say that I feel that all things considered it would be a pretty close match between ZSL and Zoo Berlin, veering slightly towards Zoo Berlin as a result of some of the points I have highlighted above, but that two things push it further into 4-1 territory for me:

  • Recent developments in this category at Zoo Berlin have been very impressive and have not detracted from the strong love I feel for the collection.
  • I can't stand Land of the Lions.
I am, of course, open to shift my vote back towards the closer vote if the continued discussion/debate sways me :)
 
o the people that voted more heavily in favor of Berlin (@TeaLovingDave, @Veno, @ZH5199) have more to their arguments than the species list? I'd be interested to hear what makes you prefer Berlin to a larger margin than most the voters so far that seem pretty split between the two.

Worth noting again that if @ZH5199 does not justify their vote to an adequate level (or at all) their vote will be entirely disregarded.

Otherwise, you cross-posted with me providing precisely the reasoning you requested :p
 
I'd also raise the good breeding and restock success ZSL Whipsnade has had in the carnivore area over the last several years.

London has of course had the Asiatic lion breeding success but at Whipsnade
  • The Amur tiger group at Whipsnade have only recently moved on - three cubs remained at the zoo after their arrival in 2018 and while a solitary male is now in residence, the three bred at the zoo will hopefully go on to good breeding success of their own
  • Wolverine cubs in 2019 to Puff and Fiti. The cubs have moved on (for example Helga who is now at Dudley part of founding a whole new group there) and while Puff sadly died there is a new male in residence now who bred well previously at Bristol
  • The red panda twins born in 2023 to parents Ruby and Nilo (the twins have now moved to new collections)
  • Two litters of otter pups in 2022 (two) and 2023 (three) to parents Carol and Ernie (four pups survived in total out of the five and all remain on exhibit)
  • The three lion cubs born in 2024 to Winta and Malik
Some strong indications the overall collection has both been on the up and was in good hands have also been seen in the carnivore area;
  • The formation of the new lion pride after the sad passing of the old group which coincided with the old cheetahs passing in the period immediately after. New Cheetahs (three brothers from FOTA) are now on display again
  • The Lynx had a successful breeding group and current residents Amber and Ruby were born at the zoo
  • ZSL proved a useful temporary home for the Africa Alive lion pride after a storm wrecked their enclosure and then to Khari temporarily rehomed from Blackpool and the zoo managed it's lion visitors really well
  • The new brown bears who joined existing bear Cinderella in 2023 making a lively new group of four (and the new extended area being built at the same time)
There have been issues for the African hunting dogs with problems making the new group for them work, but overall it's been a positive few years for the zoo in really making the carnivore collection as strong as it can be.
 
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