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Ah so I think this clarifies that the "late Stuardian" times thing and the apparent number of species (according to elephant400) is wrong.
 
Ash said:
Ah so I think this clarifies that the "late Stuardian" times thing and the apparent number of species (according to elephant400) is wrong.
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stewardian times? would that refer to the stuarts? bloody hell thats like 300 years ago haha. yeah they were off there by a large amount.
 
Yeah exactly, hence why I'm (and others are) dubious to believe it lol. Paradoxurus's description of it being a smallish zoo that closed in the late 60's would appear more believable :-)
 
Ash said:
Ah so I think this clarifies that the "late Stuardian" times thing and the apparent number of species (according to elephant400) is wrong.
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What you seem surprised that elephant400 might have been wrong with his info given some of his other posts on here before he left under a cloud.LOL
 
Ha well no, it's just good to have these things confirmed lol.
 
I don't know though!
The specialists that studied the Painting were pretty sure that there was a "Stuardian" Wild Animal Collection on the Site of the Zoo (Textile Shop) and the painting was of the site, but they could not entirely confirm it. It is all possible that it could have closed and re-opened!
But i VERY much doubt it mind!
 
I just doubt it, especially the collection that elephant400 mentioned. Also, I think there'd b more information on it. Guess we'll never know.
 
The St. Asaph Zoo has an entry in 'The Penguin Guide to British Zoos, published in 1970 .

The entry confirms that it was formerly The Llanerch Deer Park and that it was opened in 1965 by Douglas Petrie - later of Southport I believe . It was later acquired by Associated Pleasure Parks Ltd. It had a baby elephant , some big cat species , monkeys , deer and a few birds . It is described as a small zoo within the grounds of a large estate including an eighteenth-century mansion . It was situated 1.5 miles outside St Asaph on the A55 . It was closed in winter , entry was 3s , guidebooks 2s . Wonder if there are any guidebooks owned by Bartlett Society members ? ( Just checked , two editions of Llanerch Zoo guides are listed from the 1960's but none for St Asaph Zoo ) .

There is no mention of it in Anthony Smith's 1977 'Animals on View' , including a list of closed collections so it must have closed before then .

I remember elsewhere picking up that the collection had several polar bears at one time . Wonder if these came from a circus as there was a large group of polar bears with Chipperfields about that time ?
 
Thanks for the info, looks as thought the "Textile shop picture" may have been an out of date depiction of Noah's ark (the bible story lol).
 
Yes, Belle stated that in his post that it was formally Llanerch deer park. What's your point?
 
Bele said:
It was closed in winter , entry was 3s , guidebooks 2s . Wonder if there are any guidebooks owned by Bartlett Society members ? ( Just checked , two editions of Llanerch Zoo guides are listed from the 1960's but none for St Asaph Zoo ) QUOTE]

In Welsh Llanerch is St. Asaph, so there the same place!
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Bele said:
...it was opened in 1965 by Douglas Petrie - later of Southport I believe . It was later acquired by Associated Pleasure Parks Ltd.
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Doug Petrie did not open this place. It was already open before he arrived on the scene. He moved to St. Asaph after working for APP at Flamingo Park and then Cleethorpes (he always said that he didn't really approve of the idea of cetaceans in captivity which is why he moved here from Cleethorpes). I believe that he left for Southport before the place closed after he was made a good offer by the then owner Frank Farrar.


Bele said:
I remember elsewhere picking up that the collection had several polar bears at one time . Wonder if these came from a circus as there was a large group of polar bears with Chipperfields about that time ?
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The Bears came from a German(?) trainer called Kreft. They were a mixed group and were only here for one season (they were also at Sherwood Zoo for a season as well). I am sure there was at least one other Polar Bear here that was not part of Kreft's group.

I am not sure that Chipperfield's Polar Bears were ever exhibited in a zoo though one, famously of course, did go to Bristol Zoo (Nina I think) where she sill resides in the education department. Smarts also had a group around this time.
 
ChesterGemsbok said:
It was closed in winter , entry was 3s , guidebooks 2s . Wonder if there are any guidebooks owned by Bartlett Society members ? ( Just checked , two editions of Llanerch Zoo guides are listed from the 1960's but none for St Asaph Zoo )

In Welsh Llanerch is St. Asaph, so there the same place!
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Yes, but the place was officially known as "Llanerch Deer Park" when it opened and later changed its official name to "St.Asaph Zoo". They may well mean the same thing but the official name did change from one to the other.
 
Overlapping going on lol. Chestergemsbok, I see your point now, I got confused. I guess this pretty much proves that the info elephant400 left was wrong (hardly surprisingly lol).
 
Paradoxurus said:
I am not sure that Chipperfield's Polar Bears were ever exhibited in a zoo though one, famously of course, did go to Bristol Zoo (Nina I think) where she sill resides in the education department.
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I believe Bristol's 'Nina' was born in, and came from, Copenhagen Zoo. But the male (Misha?) that replaced 'Sebastian' after he died, did come from a circus and showed stereotyped 'head weaving' behaviour.
 
That sounds about right, I'm sure I remember seeing it on TV that she came from there, or at least somewhere in Europe.
 
Pertinax said:
I believe Bristol's 'Nina' was born in, and came from, Copenhagen Zoo. But the male (Misha?) that replaced 'Sebastian' after he died, did come from a circus and showed stereotyped 'head weaving' behaviour.
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I knew it was one of those two. The alternate story is that Misha (I seem to remember hearing that he was always known as "Miska" in the circus) picked up this stereotypy as he was kept for a long time in the small off-show pit behind the main Polar Bear exhibit at Bristol before being introduced to Nina. So I'm not going to jump straight to the conclusion that the repetetive behaviour came with him.
 
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