Frozen Planet

Pertinax said:
As I said above, its commonplace (or used to be), while films often comprise at least some footage that isn't necessarily used/edited in anything like the same order it was filmed, or sometimes not from the same place, the same time or even by the same people/company! As shown by this, even the BBC with its high standards and massive production budgets can't avoid doing this occassionally- its the name of the game.

But nobody is normally any the wiser with the finished product. Only a situation like this where the press have flagged it up does it become an issue.
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It is not just in wildlife films that this happens . I was watching a programme on BBC Wales last week about the family history of Trevor Eves , the actor . He was being interviewed whilst being driven along the Mumbles Road in Swansea . One minute the car was facing in one direction , the next in the opposite , miles down the road . Unless you knew the particular road well , you would not realise that it made no sense in terms of continuity .
 
At least now, if BBC ever shows some anti-zoo film, one can kindly remind them that viewers couldn't recognize polar bears in the Dutch zoo from the wild.
 
Jurek7 said:
At least now, if BBC ever shows some anti-zoo film, one can kindly remind them that viewers couldn't recognize polar bears in the Dutch zoo from the wild.
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Having (sadly) not seen the episode, can I just ask if Ouwehands got a mention in the credits at the end of the film.

If they did, then I totally fail to understand the fuss. If they didn't, they should have done.

It also frightens me that there are any people out there who seriously think that someone would have decided to send a crew to Novaya Zemlya (or wherever), and then proceed to imperil a cameraman's life by close proximity to a wild, unrestrained female polar bear with cubs. :eek:
 
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If they did, then I totally fail to understand the fuss. If they didn't, they should have done.
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I didn't see the episode either but it has been said that in the 'how the film was made' section that they bolt onto these films now, there was no mention of how/where the cub sequence was filmed, which rather indicates they didn't wish to publicise it.
 
IanRRobinson said:
It also frightens me that there are any people out there who seriously think that someone would have decided to send a crew to Novaya Zemlya (or wherever), and then proceed to imperil a cameraman's life by close proximity to a wild, unrestrained female polar bear with cubs. :eek:
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Actually, inside of polar bear den in the wild was filmed several times as a part of scientific work.

I think even in one of Attenborough earlier films (arctic episode of The Living Planet?)
 
One of Sir David's Attenborough's programmes many years ago featured a caracal family in India.

Chester zoo had a sign in their caracal enclosure advising that a hidden camera was in situ and the film was to be used for a B.B.C. documentary.

Included in the end credits was 'Chester Zoo'

I wonder if anyone put two and two together?
 
bongorob said:
I wonder if anyone put two and two together?
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I doubt it.;) There's often a considerable 'lag'(sometimes a year or two) between the filming of a segment and the airing of the completed programme. Look at Walker, one of the'tiny' Polar Bear cubs filmed in this controversy, now already a grown bear at HWP.

Using captive animals/situations/set filming has always been accepted practise and widespread in wildlife filming-many films just wouldn't get made without it.

I am surprised at all this fuss- there are suggestions its a 'manfactured' row with other agenda.
 
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There is a fair amount of jiggery-pokery in Frozen Planet when you start looking for it.

...such as the cameraman's foot that had been cloned out and replaced with CGI grass in the egg collecting sequence.
 
Was discussing Frozen Planet and other BBC documentaries with my friends recently... Question for U.S. viewers - is it true, that they often replace David Attenborough´s narration with somebody else and edit the script, so they would avoid mentioning evolution and climate change? And if so, which version do you watch?
 
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