General Australian Zoos Questions

animal kid

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I made this so anyone can ask questions about any aussie zoo

my first ones are have any aussie zoos ever had or even have? or plan to get hummingbirds?

and what is one of the rarest animals in captivity in any aussie zoos?

melbourne zoo:
how many otters, bongo and snow leopard does MZ have now?
what are the zoos plans as to getting some more birds, and small mammals like coatis, monkeys and mandrills and does the zoo plan to get rid of any exhibits/what are the plans for the ape grottos,babbon area (when they leave), other hippo pond and bongos?
 
Regarding your bird questions: I don't recall anywhere in Australia ever having hummingbirds. As for planning to get them, or any other birds, it's impossible at present due to Australia's strict quarantine laws.

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Hix
 
I made this so anyone can ask questions about any aussie zoo

my first ones are have any aussie zoos ever had or even have? or plan to get hummingbirds?

and what is one of the rarest animals in captivity in any aussie zoos?

melbourne zoo:
how many otters, bongo and snow leopard does MZ have now?
what are the zoos plans as to getting some more birds, and small mammals like coatis, monkeys and mandrills and does the zoo plan to get rid of any exhibits/what are the plans for the ape grottos,babbon area (when they leave), other hippo pond and bongos?

Otters - 2.0

Bongo - 1.1

Snow Leopard - 2.3 (1.1 pair, 1.1 offspring, 0.1 post-reproductive)

Melbourne Zoo have indicated they hope to acquire numerous native mammals and 10 or so exotic mammals.

They've also listed many bird acquisitions (both exotics and natives).

But unfortunately, the bird 'wish list' is constantly changing.

As for rare exotic species, the following species are kept at only one ZAA zoo:
- Hoffman's Sloth
- White-fronted Lemur
- Slow Loris
- Black Lion-tamarin
- Common Squirrel-monkey
- Sulawesi Crested Macaque
- Ebony Langur
- Dusky Langur
- Francois Langur
- Dhole
- Caracal
- Ocelot
- Eurasian Badger

I could go on......

Hope you found the above info interesting.

:)
 
is the loris at melbourne? and where is the sloth?

also can anyone tell me why zoos often keep interesting species off-display when it isn't necessary that they are? and what is one of the strangest animals ever kept in australia?

also what small zoo do you think could become a 'big zoo' in the next 20 years?
 
That depends on your definition of big. Australia zoo is the only one that really has the funds to be on a similar scale to our government zoos. Moho and Canberra might go places with their Savannah expansions but that depends on money through the gate.
 
is the loris at melbourne? and where is the sloth?

also can anyone tell me why zoos often keep interesting species off-display when it isn't necessary that they are? and what is one of the strangest animals ever kept in australia?

also what small zoo do you think could become a 'big zoo' in the next 20 years?

I'm pretty sure the sloths are at Adelaide.

Which is the zoo with squirrel monkeys? Does Alma Park Zoo still keep them?
 
alma have a group of ex research common squirrel monkeys, the dwindling main zoo population was of bolivians. the two are different full species so hybridisation is out. commons were to be phased out in favour of bolivians, but since the bolivians have done so poorly at breeding in recent years, Australian populations of both species are probably equally in danger of local extinction now. I don't know what the current plans are - if any for either.
 
To my knowledge adelaide has recently bred a male from a male Saimiri boliviensis boliviensis and a female Saimiri boliviensis
 
what happened to melbournes squirrel monkeys?

last i checked they still had one or two elderly females, but they have not been on display since they were removed from the amazon aviary a few years ago. they didn't seem to much like the macaws.
 
too noisy for me mate! i can only imagine what DDZ sounds like with all that screeching
and the occasional "arhh-arghhhhhhhh" of the peacocks.

i toyed with the idea of getting a hahn's macaw at one stage. then my better judgement got the better of me.

last time i was at melbourne, i saw they had replaced the green wings with a pair of red fronteds. are these guys common in australia? actually steve, i'd love to know what macaws are the rarest (hycinth?) and commonest (blue and gold?) if you know...
 
Love those Aras!

Red-fronteds are very rare in Australia, but numbers are gradually increasing. The Gowland family's Priam Psittaculture Centre outside Bungendore, near Canberra, is among the most effective breeders of red-fronted macaws. (Check out their website.)

I think you are probably right phoenix when you say that hyacinths are the rarest and blue-and-golds the commonest in the country, eh Steve?

And as for peacocks........I live in the northern suburbs of Sydney, and a peacock suddenly arrived in our street in Autumn 2006 and has lived here ever since. No-one knows where he came from; the nearest place with peafowl is Koala Park at West Pennant Hills, which is four suburbs away. Dunno how he is still alive;he's got no road sense. The fact that ours is a dead-end street probably helps - no hoons driving through. The locals feed him - some people don't like the racket he makes, but I do- very exotic.
 
too noisy for me mate! i can only imagine what DDZ sounds like with all that screeching
and the occasional "arhh-arghhhhhhhh" of the peacocks.

i toyed with the idea of getting a hahn's macaw at one stage. then my better judgement got the better of me.

last time i was at melbourne, i saw they had replaced the green wings with a pair of red fronteds. are these guys common in australia? actually steve, i'd love to know what macaws are the rarest (hycinth?) and commonest (blue and gold?) if you know...

DDZ, first thing in the morning and just before dark is not the quietest place on earth!

Hahns Macaws, indeed any type of Macaw and most Conures are too noisy for urban dwellers - apart from space considerations etc.

Peacocks aren't much better but here the noise isn't the problem - it's the mess that they make. We are going to delete our free ranging Blue Peacocks because they foul the verandahs of the entrance building and insist on sitting on the picnic tables in wet weather. Ara, would your neighbourhood Peacock like some mates - free of charge?

The Red-fronted Macaw situation is as Ara described pretty much although recent developments would suggest that the Blue-headed Macaw would be the rarest in Australia. Very few people knew that Dollar Bill had a breeding pair in Melbourne and had had them there for a number of years. There were five birds there when the Feds raided his place and, as he had bred them previously, I am intrigued to know where the previous progeny have been placed. These birds are incredibly rare [Google them and see what you get]. A mate of mine, unaware that there were any in Australia, actually travelled to Austria some years ago to see them in the flesh.

Of the remaining species - next rarest would probably be the Buffons, Militarys and Hyacinths. There were no holders of Buffons recorded on the final NEBRS list but some turned up at Dollar Bills. There have always been a few Militarys in Australia - do you remember seeing a pair at Natureland, Ara? There were a couple of holders listed on NEBRS as there was also for Hyacinths. I don't understand why the Feds pinched Dollar Bill for his Hyacinths as he was listed under NEBRS as a holder of the species. However, they are not common. Adelaide Zoo has been trying to pair up their two cock birds for some years as has Ashmore. We were offered a pair of Hyacinths just last week but I doubt if their provenance was kosher. Price - $110,000!

There are now a few Red-fronteds around thanks to Priam's breeding successes. The Gowlands have spent an enormous amount of time, money and effort in getting this species going in Australia. They have even travelled to South America to study them in the wild and in local captive situations there. They are breeding them reasonably well now but their efforts are hampered by the need for new bloodlines. There is a single cock bird in Wellington Zoo which, for a variety of reasons, will probably stay there until he dies. Their only other source of fresh blood would be the Dollar Bill birds - if they are ever found again. Under existing government protocols Priam would be prevented from receiving these birds.

phoenix - you need a real bird to complement those boring little finches! Forget about a Hahns but have a close look at some of the Amazon species. They have personality plus, are great talkers and are not too noisy for suburbia. Please consider!!!
 
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how many Blue-headed Macaws are in australia, apparently there are only 26 in isis zoos worldwide!
also is there a huge market for parrots in australia?
also can anyone else answer my first questions about melbourne?
 
how many Blue-headed Macaws are in australia, apparently there are only 26 in isis zoos worldwide!
also is there a huge market for parrots in australia?
also can anyone else answer my first questions about melbourne?

"Legally" - none.

In truth - think of a number!

Yes - there is a huge and growing market for parrots in Australia. Unfortunately many of these are going to unsuitable homes. See my comments to phoenix earlier and also the "News" page on our website Darling Downs Zoo - Clifton, Pilton, wild cats, crocodiles, snakes, reptiles, exotic birds, marsupials, monkeys, lions, places to go, wildlife, wildlife tours, tours.

Melbourne - where's that?!!!!
 
Interesting info. about the rarer macaws in Australia Steve - thanks for that. You've certainly filled in some gaps for me!
I too was unaware of any Blue-headeds in Aust.
Yes, I remember the Militarys at Natureland. Wonder what happened to them? I also, as a child, remember seeing a pair of Sir Edward Hallstrom's Militarys in, of all places, David Jones department store in Sydney one Xmas, on temporary display.
 
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