Adelaide Zoo Giant Pandas for Adelaide

Spreading more and more giant pandas around the globe is perhaps the answer, and that way the notoriously inconsistent breeders will have an opportunity to flourish worldwide. With 7 zoos now exhibiting pandas outside of China, and Adelaide, Edinburgh and Oakland all looking like good bets for the future, at least China is easing up on the severe restrictions of the past.

@boof: I suppose that no one has heard or seen anything about the design for the new giant panda enclosure at Adelaide. Whoever does read anything will hopefully post it here right away as we are all anxious to see the plans.
 
Spreading more and more giant pandas around the globe is perhaps the answer, and that way the notoriously inconsistent breeders will have an opportunity to flourish worldwide. With 7 zoos now exhibiting pandas outside of China, and Adelaide, Edinburgh and Oakland all looking like good bets for the future, at least China is easing up on the severe restrictions of the past.

@boof: I suppose that no one has heard or seen anything about the design for the new giant panda enclosure at Adelaide. Whoever does read anything will hopefully post it here right away as we are all anxious to see the plans.

The Giant Panda studbook is administered by the Chengdu Giant Panda Breeding Base just outside Chengdu (which has been largely unaffected by the recent earthquake). An committee from the Chinese Association of Zoological Gardens defines the breeding recommendations for each panda each year based on their genetics and representation - both inside and outside China. All pandas remain the ownership of the P.R. of China and the wild born ones remain inside China.

The giant pandas inside P.R. of China have already been put out in several breeding centers to spread the risk of catastrophe. Apart from the Chengdu GP Breeding Base, there is Wolong Giant Panda Breeding Base, Bifengxia Giant Panda Breeding Base (where most of the sub-adult and older pandas have been sent in the last 2 years) and Ya'an Giant Panda Breeding Base. Others are on exhibit purposes at zoos around China (with Beijing, Chongqing, Shanghai and Xian also being designated breeding centers).

Was the emphasis in developmental years on AI, more and more research and experience in panda ecology, biology and genetics has improved the natural mating capabilities of the species (currently 30% of all matings is by natural means and increasing).

Further panda loan agreements have been made with Japan (Shirahama, Kobe, Nagano and Tokyo Ueno), US (San Diego, Washington NZP, Atlanta and Memphis) and EU (Berlin and Madrid) and some in Chapultepec Zoo, Mexico City. These pandas all originate from captive-breeding at Wolong or Chengdu. Adelaide, Tokyo Ueno and Taiwan are all scheduled to receive pandas in the near future from either Wolong or Chengdu.

No need to further spread the "risk around" as some have suggested here. The pandas are quite safe where they are now, allthough obviously a lot of rebuilding the infrastructure is required at the Wolong Center and the surrounding panda reserves (where reserve staff have either been injured or worse still killed out right). It is better to invest in other endangered species breeding programmes that could benefit from captive-breeding and let the CAZGA and the satellite zoos outside P.R. of China - who are already providing extra technical and financial support to Wolong and their Chinese counterparts - do their bit for panda conservation in China.

The CAZGA captive-breeding programme is now at a stage with (ca. 220-230 captive pandas inside P.R. of China) to start reintroduction exercises. In 2006/7 a male was released in Wolong, allthough later killed by a territorial wild panda. The current project is 2.2, of which the intention is to release a pregnant captive-bred female in the Wolong area (the earthquake may have put the project on hold for the time being).

The in situ component of the giant panda breeding centers is research and monitoring of wild pandas and their habitats, providing funds for establishing corridors between the panda reserves (currently at 27 in Sichuan, Gansu and Shaanxi provinces). No detailed surveys or monitoring has yet been done to ascertain the current status of wild giant pandas after the earthquake. The first assessment is that wild pandas tend to live inconspicuous lives in shallow valleys and hence may have escaped the brunt of all these landslides and flattening of inaccessible mountainous areas. I expect in the next few weeks and once aftershocks have subsided reserve and research staff will go back into the forests to monitor the wild pandas once more.

It is worth mentioning that most reserves in Sichuan not only contain wild pandas, but equally endangered species like serow, takin, red pandas, golden monkeys and several pheasant species. It is worth mentioning that these reserves play a vital role in securing this mountain ecosystem. Both the Chengdu Giant Panda Base and to a lesser extent Wolong Center have other species like the above mentioned being bred at their centers.

For starters keep reading the San Diego updates on Wolong that come out every now and then. If you still feel uneasy, chip in and give their appeals a few bob for the Wolong Center! :cool:
 
Sorry if this is mentioned but one of the breeding bases in china did lose something like four staff and six pandas. four have since returned. Something like that, not exactly sure of numbers
 
by staff u mean losed 4 as in died

panda wise the actuall lost a few- as in they ran away not died, and a few have returned.

all exhibits have been damaged
 
Read my account and you will find quite a few people died around Wolong. In Wolong - not just Hetauping BC, but as much so the reserve in all 20 people have died!

The staff quarters at Wolong have become totally inhabitable and the Dujiangyan family homes have been completely destroyed. The Wolong families have been relocated to Bifengxia BC in Ya'an as have 6 giant pandas. 8 other giant pandas have been sent to Beijing Zoo for a 6-month loan during the Olympic Games.

At Wolong at least 14 of 32 enclosures have been completely damaged beyond repair. The inhabitants have been relocated. 2 giant pandas were injured and as much as 4 went missing (2 have been recovered early on, 1 more as been captured just the other day and 1 is still out there somewhere).

The road out to Baoxing county is now open again, but the large thorough fare to Chengdu is still closed off. Communications have also been badly affected with many mobile towers damaged. The army has been brought in to help with relief efforts at Wolong and provide increased security there.
 
Wang Wang and Funi are confirmed safe. Zoos South Australia has offered the use of it's vetrinarian and keeping team should Wolong require it.
 
That April arrival date must be incorrect, unless the pandas are going to be quarantined for a significant amount of time. Also, I was surprised to read that the latest pricetag for the panda enclosure, perimeter fence and entrance precinct is $33 million.
 
Currumbin Sanctuary is mostly for native species of animals, so it really makes no sense for them to have giant pandas, besides it's in the middle of nowhere and who would really drive all that way to see giant pandas...I mean to go to a wildlife park to see Australian wildlife and giant pandas...doesn't really make sense, it was purely wishful thinking on their part...

Adelaide Zoo occupies a small area but it has great potential, and the enclosures of recent years have been well designed, especially the South east Asia precinct enclosures...

Be happy people that there will be pandas in Australia, quit whinging about it and just enjoy it...
 
@aw101: I am a huge supporter of the giant panda movement in Adelaide, and I think that it is absolutely brilliant that the zoo has taken this stride forward. I'd love to go back to Australia and make my way over to South Australia!
 
33 million isn't bad for a new high tech perimeter fence, entry precinct and the biggest exhibit ever built at Adelaide.
 
Currumbin Sanctuary is mostly for native species of animals, so it really makes no sense for them to have giant pandas, besides it's in the middle of nowhere and who would really drive all that way to see giant pandas...I mean to go to a wildlife park to see Australian wildlife and giant pandas...doesn't really make sense, it was purely wishful thinking on their part...

I think they were trying to boost the Sanctuary's image, and ther's nothing wrng with that. After all, a small native reptile park in Beerwah is now a Zoo.

And if you think the Gold Coast is "in the middle of nowhere", then I think Melbourn'es heatwave must have got to your brain. It's one of Australia's biggest international and domestic tourist destinations and is only an hour or so drive from Brisbane.

:)

Hix
 
The exciting thing about Adelaide Zoo is that there is huge potential for growth, there aren't any really bad/depressing/too small exhibits there, and the developments in recent years have been extremely promising. The siamang island was originally part of the planned to be the 'World of Primates Stage 1' but that was changed to the Southeast Asia precinct, hence the hamadryas baboon exhibit across from the siamang island. The plan is to convert that baboon exhibit into one for komodo dragons.

I must admit that the new lion enclosure is a bit disappointing, and the giraffe exhibit is rather small, but the giant panda enclosure looks very promising. It's interesting that they didn't include an exhibit for red pandas or pheasants to create more of a geographically themed exhibit. Especially since the current red panda enclosure is not very visually attractive.
 
i also had to laugh at the Gold Coast being the middle of nowhere...i mean sure its a **** hole but a lot more people go there than Adelaide for holidays. any wonder South Australian Tourism are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of marketing the only Giant Pandas in Australia or New Zealand (a major source of international short-haul tourists).
i thought red pandas were originally included in the giant panda precinct; regardless of whether or not they have been dropped I would expect to see a quick succession of other new developments at Adelaide Zoo as the dollars start pouring in when Wang Wang and Funi arrive!
 
Oh I'm sorry, I just always assumed the Gold Coast was full of tacky souvenir shops selling made-in-China crap...:cool:

yes, Adelaide Zoo will hopefully benefit from the presence of the pandas, and more cash would obviously mean more well designed enclosures and hopefully the influx of new species. Soon their old orangutan/chimpanzee enclosures will be empty and the space could have huge potential for a new exhibit.
 
It is planned for the new giant panda area to have two exhibits for red panda, plus there are going to be mandarin ducks running around but would have also been nice to see pheasants included.
 
@aw101: the old primate enclosures were already bulldozed last year, and the brand new, $3 million Envirodome is opening up there. Between the Envirodome, the perimeter fencing, the entrance precinct and the giant panda exhibit the Adelaide Zoo is edging close to $40 million in zoo improvements.
 
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