Golden Bellied Mangabey import

Any idea which Dutch zoo is involved in this, because at the moment there are no zoos keeping this species in the country. I personally hope on Burgers Zoo acquiring them....
 
lintworm said:
Any idea which Dutch zoo is involved in this, because at the moment there are no zoos keeping this species in the country. I personally hope on Burgers Zoo acquiring them....
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Burger's Zoo used to have a nice little group of breeding mangabey.
It be nice if they go into them again ...
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
Burger's Zoo used to have a nice little group of breeding mangabey.
It be nice if they go into them again ...
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Yes, would be nice to have them go in again!

When has it been the last time one could observe these wonderful monkeys at Burgers Zoo? In what enclosure were they housed? What has been the breeding status of the Golden bellied mangebey at the park of Antoon van Hooff or the precessor or successor?
 
Can anyone list(accurately) the current holders and numbers of Golden-bellies in European Zoos? Zootierlist doesn't show sex ratios etc does it?
 
Pertinax said:
Can anyone list(accurately) the current holders and numbers of Golden-bellies in European Zoos? Zootierlist doesn't show sex ratios etc does it?
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I'm sorry to be unable to respond your question correctly.
 
The dutch zoo that will get the mangabeys is probably Burgers Zoo, as the gorilla enclosure has been adapted for a second (smaller) primate species....
 
@ john : Burgers had another species -not the Golden-bellied. Burgers had at least during the 1980-ties a small group of Black mangabeys and the bred several times.
 
Does anyone know the logic behind importing four mangabeys into three seperate zoos? It would leave two zoos with a lone animal and one with a pair. Or are there any lone animals currently in Europe which they can be paured up with?
 
I don`t think there are any lone golden-bellied mangabeys in Europe (thankfully), but Wuppertal and Budapest both have breeding groups and the new animals could be paired with some of their offspring. And it would make sense to send one of the males to Budapest to avoid inbreeding. My understanding is that the mangabeys havn`t bred in the US since many years, so the females may already be too old for breeding. My hope is at least the males will breed, though.
 
Yassa said:
My understanding is that the mangabeys havn`t bred in the US since many years, so the females may already be too old for breeding. My hope is at least the males will breed, though.
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Pretty much exactly the reverse of the Allen's Swamp Monkey situation- where the last Europe survivors are likely to go to the US who seem to have a bit more success with them.

I would also like to see the female Golden-Bellied at Port Lympne included in this shake-up too, either by providing her a new partner or by sending her to another group. She may be too old but surely its worth a try.
 
EmperorTamarin said:
Does anyone know the logic behind importing four mangabeys into three seperate zoos?
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Their moves will have been organised by the studbook holder so they are integrated into existing breeding situations- or used to form new pairings, thus trying to make use of all these four from outside the very small European gene pool.
 
Does anyone know where the three golden-bellied mangabeys (all males?) that live in Liberec since 2013 come from?
 
Wuppertal Golden bellied Mangabey

At Wuppertal Zoo we are in the process of moving some of our animals to other zoos, this is all co-ordinated from Gaia Park, the zoological manager there has done the fantastic work of organising these moves through the Old World Monkey Tag of EAZA. We have at the moment only two breeding female's in two groups with 1.1 juveniles, altogether 4.4 G.b.mangabey. So we hope to have a new breeding male from another zoo.
Recently Moscow and Armenia (ErevanZoo ?) have imported individuals from the Congo, but as they are "potentially" illegal, it would be difficult to bring these too Germany, although at least these animals have been saved from the bush meat market.
I hope of interest to all !:)
 
Butch said:
We have at the moment only two breeding female's in two groups with 1.1 juveniles, altogether 4.4 G.b.mangabey. So we hope to have a new breeding male from another zoo.
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Very interesting, thankyou.:) Is Wuppertal to get any of those imported just recently from the USA?
 
@Pertinax, see first post and as Wuppertal is not in France or the Netherlands, the obvious answer is no ;).
 
Wuppertal, G.b Mangabey

I spoke on Monday with Tjerk, who is very enthusiastic about moving these animals, there is alot of work involved getting everybody "in the boat" , we will not be getting any of these US individuals. As in the past we had sent a hand reared female to San Diego ( although Tjerk said she is no longer alive) but I believe she did not contribute to the population in the US ? Our animals all originate from WB individuals, so our group is with Budapest very important, if we are too continue with this species in Europe, which I am sure is now the case. Its just a case of finding new "holders" for the species, then he can form new pairings.
 
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