Guenon Monkeys in UK Zoos.

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Pertinax

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If you're interested in this subject, have a look at 'Twycross Orangutan moves' where I've already posted some info leading on from discussions on there about Twycross guenons.

A few zoos in Uk also have Patas( Colchester, Drayton Manor & Woburn SP) and Green monkeys(IOW Zoo plus a couple of others). Spot-nosed monkey is generally rare- only Twycross and Port Lympne have them from memory.

Does anyone know if Twycross still has Mona Monkeys?
 
Twycross currently have the followin Guenon,Re-tailed (1.1.0),Lowe`s (2.2.0),Diana (1.1.0),Roloway (2.2.0),Hamlyn`s (1.2.0),L'Hoest`s (1.0.0),Lesser Spot-nosed(Cercopithecus petaurista) (1.1.0),Lesser Spot-nosed(Cercopithecus petaurista petaurista) (0.1.0),Crowned (0.1.0).Hope this helps you out.
 
In 2005 the L'Hoest's guenons produced a baby, this died at young age and the female also died in the same year.
 
zoogiraffe said:
Twycross currently; Hamlyn`s (1.2.0),
I thought Twycross had reduced their Hamlyn's from 1.3 down to 1.1.(by sending females abroad) as the male was intimidated by several mates. Is this still a trio or a pair with a baby(o.1) born in the last year or so?

Another zoo with De Brazza's that I missed out is Suffolk Wildlife Park- they had 2.2 a few years back but no sign of breeding...
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Writhedhornbill said:
Chester has a species of Guenon in with their mandrill. They have 0.2.
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They're listed as Campbell's Guenon. Its a pity they can't add a male and breed up a group.

Guenons are a very confusing group, with many very similar species- apart from the obvious ones like Diana and DeBrazza's. Chester had a number of Guenons in the old Monkey house(same building) mostly in pairs- Bongorob would give you a list, I'm sure.

I think its a shame Chester have two very similar groups of Macaques- the Sulawesi and the Liontailed. With the Spider monkeys as well its a lot of 'black' monkeys for people to see, with only the Mandrill/Guenon cage being a colourfuyl exhibit. I'd rather see the Sulawesi macaques replaced by something completely different- perhaps a Guenon group like De Brazza's? (my personal favourite) or Dianas- a colourful and very active species.
 
As far as I know Blackpool zoo still keep De Brazzas. They did last time I visited (ages ago). What about Edinburgh? They definitely have Dianas...

Got to disagree with Pertinax about Chesters Sulawesi Macaques, I think they are one of the most interesting of the monkey species kept, and the large group makes them good to watch. One question I have, is how does the Monkey House fit to Chester's zoning? It seems very loose at the moment...
 
I think I'm right in saying that guenons live in fairly big groups in the wild, but I can't recall seeing much more than a trio plus the odd infant for any species, except for Port Lympne's De Brazza's - which make a fine display with their colobus. I don't suppose it would be feasible, but a dozen of the smaller species such as moustached or mona or red-tailed would be a very interesting and active show, while a similar number of crowned would be utterly spectacular.
The other species that used to breed regularly in the old monkey house at Chester, and I think at the ZSL also, was the little talapoin, but they seem to have died out too - they could almost be candidates for a walk-through enclosure.

Alan
 
Writhedhornbill said:
It is in the Plans, That's all I'll say!
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Grr!;)
Surely its in the middle of what will become a grassland zone? With Indian Rhino on one side and sitatunga and ostrich, and gemsbok nearby? I can't envisage how the Spectacled bears and the bat house fits in either..
 
^Chris^ said:
As far as I know Blackpool zoo still keep De Brazzas. They did last time I visited (ages ago). What about Edinburgh? They definitely have Dianas...

Got to disagree with Pertinax about Chesters Sulawesi Macaques, I think they are one of the most interesting of the monkey species kept, and the large group makes them good to watch.
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1. Yes, Blackpool still have their De Brazza's, a single pair but breeding with presumably 2 female young so far.(makes 1.3)

2. Edinburgh have Dianas, but no longer De Brazza- I think they did used to have them though...?

3. Actually I agree the Sulawesi macaques are very interesting and active- Chester also have of the largest groups I've seen too. Perhaps I should moderate that and say it would be good if Chester could exhibit a large Guenon group as well, not instead of (but they can't with existing housing)

4. Zoning- they'd have to 'de-centralise' the monkeys to achieve that- expensive too.
 
gentle lemur said:
I can't recall seeing much more than a trio plus the odd infant for any species, except for Port Lympne's De Brazza's
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Guenons are beautiful and graceful, probably my favourites of all monkeys. They used to be more common in zoos than they are nowadays it seems-as a group they are pretty under-represented in our zoos now. Big groups(20+!!) would be really eyecatching to see in spacious enclosures as they bound around from branch to branch. Only Port Lympne have the De Brazza group kept anything like that so far.(their new monkey enclosures I think are really excellent) I hope they'll do one for their Dianas too, as these are even more active.
 
Sorry, we seem to be running this thread at the same time as the Twycross Orang moves which is also about Guenons at present- so check on that one too for latest discussion :)
 
gentle lemur said:
I think I'm right in saying that guenons live in fairly big groups in the wild, but I can't recall seeing much more than a trio plus the odd infant for any species, except for Port Lympne's De Brazza's - which make a fine display with their colobus. I don't suppose it would be feasible, but a dozen of the smaller species such as moustached or mona or red-tailed would be a very interesting and active show, while a similar number of crowned would be utterly spectacular.
The other species that used to breed regularly in the old monkey house at Chester, and I think at the ZSL also, was the little talapoin, but they seem to have died out too - they could almost be candidates for a walk-through enclosure.

Alan
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Wouldn`t think Talapoin Monkeys in a walk through would be a good idea as i believe Chester got rid of their group after they attacked a keeper cleaning the enclosure,but Chestrer still maintain the stud-book for the species!!!!!!!!!
 
zoogiraffe said:
Wouldn`t think Talapoin Monkeys in a walk through would be a good idea as i believe Chester got rid of their group after they attacked a keeper cleaning the enclosure,but Chestrer still maintain the stud-book for the species!!!!!!!!!
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I wondered why they got rid of them. Thanks.
 
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