Guenons

i dunno what the deal is with the de brazza's guenons. i believe there are only 3 females left and the decision to stop breeding them was based on the fact that the zoos had not had great success in recent years. thus i wouldn't be surprised if they are all too old.

still, i agree we need monkey species phase-outs, i just personally wouldn't have put de brazza's in the category.
 
patrick said:
i dunno what the deal is with the de brazza's guenons. i believe there are only 3 females left and the decision to stop breeding them was based on the fact that the zoos had not had great success in recent years. thus i wouldn't be surprised if they are all too old.

I looked on ISIS and it shows 6.3 in Australia(distributed among four zoos) so your right on the number of females. They might benefit from a change of partners as it might stimulate further breeding- even if they are elderly. They are certainly not a difficult species to breed with suitable pairs. Bringing the whole lot together into a single group might help too- but maybe they'll stay where they are as exhibits and eventually fizzle out- so goodbye De Brazza's in Oz.
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patrick said:
still, i agree we need monkey species phase-outs, i just personally wouldn't have put de brazza's in the category.
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Why not let one or two smaller zoos run with the de brazzas and let the others going ahead with their there plan
 
MARK said:
Why not let one or two smaller zoos run with the de brazzas and let the others going ahead with their there plan
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The De Brazza's would be fine kept in one of the city zoos- being a forest guenon they are quite suited to a roomy enclosed and shady enclosure- one of the primate(NOT mixed with the gorillas) enclosures at Melbourne would(from distant memory ;) seem perfectly suitable.
 
The Primate TAG are probably determined that they are going to die out in the region whether they want to or not.........
 
Ara said:
The Primate TAG are probably determined that they are going to die out in the region whether they want to or not.........
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Yes, I suspect from the comments made that there won't be any action taken to try and revive them- the remaining individuals will stay scattered at the locations where they are and eventually fizzle out. A bad decision in my opinion as once gone, you won't get them again....
 
Ara said:
I'd be interested to hear what Sebbe67 has to say about this, as I see on another thread that he studied L'hoest's guenon in the wild for 4 years.

Are you there, Sebastian?
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Hello Ara,

Sorry I have missed your post completely, sure I can tell you plenty about this species. I have noted most down and will try to dig it out and come back to you.
 
Does anyone know in general how destructive DeBrazza's Guenons are to vegetation?

When the Calgary Zoo first unveiled their model and drawings of TransAlta Rainforest to the general public DeBrazza's Guenons inhabited the riverine forest habitat. Before this exhibit opened they acquired 3 DeBrazza's Guenons. Unfortunately, they have never seen this exhibit, to my knowledge, and are currently housed in the old primate house which is being transformed into a South American house. DeBrazza's Guenons are one of my favorite animals at the Zoo and I would love to see them amongst the bright light, natural vegetation, free flight birds, fish, mongoose lemurs ,turtles, and dik'dik antelope of TransAlta Rainforests walk through exhibit instead of the single ring tailed lemur currently there.
The ring-tailed lemur might be on the Zoo's phase out list. They have seemingly phased out the red ruffed lemurs that were in this exhibit since just prior to its opening up until about a year before today.
I should also mention that the boardwalk over water essentially segregates this habitat in two and the mongoose lemurs almost exclusively use the smaller left hand side, especially the tree overhanging the visitor path.
 
Taccachantrieri said:
DeBrazza's Guenons are one of my favorite animals at the Zoo and I would love to see them amongst the bright light, natural vegetation, free flight birds, fish, mongoose lemurs ,turtles, and dik'dik antelope of TransAlta Rainforests walk through exhibit....
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i wouldn't, they can be very aggressive and dangerous animals. i certainly wouldn't place them in an unprotected environment with people.
 
Taccachantrieri said:
Does anyone know in general how destructive DeBrazza's Guenons are to vegetation?
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Guenons as a group in captivity are not very destructive to vegetation. That includes De Brazza, although I don't think they'd be at all suitable for the sort of exhibit you describe.
 
@Taccachantrieri: is anything happening with Calgary Zoo's primate house? With all of the talk about the upcoming arctic/antarctic and conservatory projects, has that South American themed section of the zoo been left out in the cold? When I was there two years ago I found that section with its tamarins, lemurs, etc to be rather disapponting.
 
I'm not too sure that DeBrazza's guenons would be able to interact with people in this exhibit.
It was only once the Calgary Zoo introduced mongoose lemurs to the left hand side of the exhibit that they put up signs warning visitors about biting animals.
The right hand side of this exhibit is the only place I've seen ring-tailed and red-ruffed lemurs. It is separated from visitors by a water "moat".

...Anyways tell me what you think.

I don't have any pictures so I'll provide some links:

A lemur at the Calgary Zoo on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
To travel between the left hand side and right hand side of the visitor boardwalk the lemurs have to climb across some netting, jump onto the platform on a giant green pillar, jump onto a speaker, then leap several feet downwards onto a fake tree branch. It is quite an interesting performance to behold! It's somewhat reminiscent of an obstacle course, but for lemurs!

IM000176 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Hey is that the same creature the sign is warning about ;)?

Mongoose Lemur on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I love this picture!

Calgary zoo - Hyishi and lemur on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
In this picture you can see the mongoose lemurs nested amongst the foliage of a tree overhanging the visitor boardwalk. This is on the left hand side of the exhibit.

Here's some pictures of the right hand side of the exhibit.
spoonbill on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Spoonbill habitat on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Birds of the rainforest at Calgary Zoo on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
It's hard to tell in these pictures but behind the area seen in the last picture there is a fake mudbank with several large trees planted behind it.




These pictures don't pertain to the discussion but they are so beautiful I just had to include them anyways :D!

Calgary Zoo Oct 4, 2007 269 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
It might be unnatural to see bongos with fall foliage but it certainly paints a striking picture!

Calgary Zoo visit Feb 2008 452 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
The plants, the solar rays, the mist, oh yeah, the guinea fowl aren't too bad either:rolleyes:!
 
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