Handbook of the Mammals of the World

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twilighter said:
....and can wholeheartedly agree that only the Primate illustrations are good enough reason to acquire this historic volumes.
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When you say this:

Do you mean that it it ONLY worth buying if you want the new primate illustrations
or
Do you mean that the new primate illustrations ALONE are a good enough reason to buy it?

I have HMW volumes 1,2 & 3 but wondering if I should just abandon ship and go with the checklist.
 
toothlessjaws said:
When you say this:

Do you mean that it it ONLY worth buying if you want the new primate illustrations
or
Do you mean that the new primate illustrations ALONE are a good enough reason to buy it?

I have HMW volumes 1,2 & 3 but wondering if I should just abandon ship and go with the checklist.
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I mean the latter, but there are definitely more reasons to buy it, especially if you do not have the complete set. I have all nine volumes and the new Primate illustrations were very important addition, imo. The checklist has some weaknesses of course: not very reliable illustrations of the new species; lack of illustrations of the extinct species; retained Ungulate taxonomy and not the best editing. Nevertheless is a historical reference for the mammal lovers.
 
Remember that the checklist does not include the family texts either; do you want in depth treatment, but less up to date taxonomy, or just the most up to date species list? (If you have to choose).
 
toothlessjaws said:
@twilighter Thanks.

I'd really like the the monotreme and marsupial volume of HMW, but then I can just buy this new checklist for just a little more and get everything plus the new primate illustrations. very tempting.
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As was discussed above, is hard to replace the original volumes with the Checklist. Most of the illustrations and distribution are there, but the family and the species accounts texts, written by some of the greatest authorities in their field, are not. Sorry to make the things more difficult for you, but I feel that for one living in Australia, volume V is really fundamental.
 
twilighter said:
As was discussed above, is hard to replace the original volumes with the Checklist. Most of the illustrations and distribution are there, but the family and the species accounts texts, written by some of the greatest authorities in their field, are not. Sorry to make the things more difficult for you, but I feel that for one living in Australia, volume V is really fundamental.
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Well, in the end I figured why can't I have both? I have ordered the checklist, but will continue in my never ending quest to find a cheap 2nd hand copy of HMW Volume 5 (or any others).

I actually got very lucky and in separate buys, found very cheap, brand new copies of HMW 1,2 & 3. But it's been years of hunting for more volumes for a 3rd of the price. I guess lots of people signed up and then decided not to stick it out, hence getting lucky finding the first few volumes but none thereafter....
 
There are a few special offers here: Stuccu.com: Best Deals on handbook of mammals the world. Up To 70% off!. Second hand copies are more expensive than new ones, so the Handbook seems to be an investment.

I realise that they're much older, but it may be worthwhile investing in the Grzimek Mammal Volumes:
2003
Volume 12: £52.24 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657883) or download here: Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals 1 | Michael Hutchins | download
Volume 13: £13.16 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657891)
Volume 15: £12.70 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657913) or download here: Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals 4 | Michael Hutchins | download

1989
Volume 1: £39.61 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Encyclopedia-Mammals-Bernhard-Grzimek/dp/0079095089) or $3.51 (https://www.amazon.com/Grzimeks-Encyclopedia-Mammals-Bernhard-Grzimek/dp/0079095089)

1972
Volume 11: £11.42 (Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals II. Volume 11. by Bernhard Grzimek - Hardcover - 1972 - from Jonathan Grobe Books (SKU: 290017))

This website may also be useful: Grzimek's Encyclopedia of Mammals
 
Dassie rat said:
There are a few special offers here: Stuccu.com: Best Deals on handbook of mammals the world. Up To 70% off!. Second hand copies are more expensive than new ones, so the Handbook seems to be an investment.

I realise that they're much older, but it may be worthwhile investing in the Grzimek Mammal Volumes:
2003
Volume 12: £52.24 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657883) or download here: Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals 1 | Michael Hutchins | download
Volume 13: £13.16 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657891)
Volume 15: £12.70 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Animal-Life-Encyclopedia-Mammals/dp/0787657913) or download here: Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals 4 | Michael Hutchins | download

1989
Volume 1: £39.61 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grzimeks-Encyclopedia-Mammals-Bernhard-Grzimek/dp/0079095089) or $3.51 (https://www.amazon.com/Grzimeks-Encyclopedia-Mammals-Bernhard-Grzimek/dp/0079095089)

1972
Volume 11: £11.42 (Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia. Mammals II. Volume 11. by Bernhard Grzimek - Hardcover - 1972 - from Jonathan Grobe Books (SKU: 290017))

This website may also be useful: Grzimek's Encyclopedia of Mammals
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I found some great deals on Ebay for a few of the Grzimek's volumes from 1972 and 1989 ( Hoofed mammals and Carnivores mainly ). The 1989 edition is pretty nice and only my Walker's Mammals of the World from that time can beat it. Even updated, the 2003 Grzimek edition (pdf) is not my favorite one.

No matter how many flaws HMW has, is by far the best thing ever happened to the people who love literature about mammals.
 
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I agree that HMW is the most complete volume on mammals. I was really impressed when I saw the 2nd edition of Walker's Mammals of the World at London's Natural History Museum. It had details about all known genera of mammals and illustrations of the vast majority. It also treated each genus relatively equally, so bats and rodents had many pages devoted to them. Later volumes devoted more pages to some of the far better known genera than did earlier volumes, but never to the same level where some mammal books devote more space to elephants than they do to bats.
 
For those who got their copy of the Illustrated checklist of the mammals of the world, can you please give me your opinion about the new primate plates and how each artist’s illustrations stand in comparison ?

Thank you
 
UplU said:
For those who got their copy of the Illustrated checklist of the mammals of the world, can you please give me your opinion about the new primate plates and how each artist’s illustrations stand in comparison ?

Thank you
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As I mentioned earlier, in my opinion the Primate plates are good enough reason to buy this book. Not all of them are the same quality, but the standard is really high. Even the old Nesh' illustrations of Callitrichidae got some facelift. My personal favorites are the families Lemuridae (F. Peacock) and The Old World Monkeys, Cercopithecidae ( I.Velikov). Is there any particular families you are interested in ?
 
twilighter said:
As I mentioned earlier, in my opinion the Primate plates are good enough reason to buy this book. Not all of them are the same quality, but the standard is really high. Even the old Nesh' illustrations of Callitrichidae got some facelift. My personal favorites are the families Lemuridae (F. Peacock) and The Old World Monkeys, Cercopithecidae ( I.Velikov). Is there any particular families you are interested in ?
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Thanks!

I’m just wondering which artist handled the rest of the New world Monkeys apart from Nash ( Callitrichidae) ?

Thanks again.
 
UplU said:
Thanks!

I’m just wondering which artist handled the rest of the New world Monkeys apart from Nash ( Callitrichidae) ?

Thanks again.
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L. Soborb & I. Velikov. Btw I.Velikov also took part in Callitrichidae.
 
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I just got my illustrated checklist and I am surprised no one has brought up the absence of dromedary camels yet (the book considers them domesticated). I am aware that this is the “illustrated checklist” and not the “ALL the mammals of the world” so expecting every mentioned extinct and domestic animal is a bit far fetched. But recalling that domestic hoofstock was illustrated on the HMW i am sad that they were absent from the checklist. But I am still thankful for my book.
 
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