Handbook of the Mammals of the World

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The Groves/Grubb species list is absolutely amazing. I have been reading his taxonomic papers for some time now, but I didn't expect this many new species.
 
jbnbsn99 said:
The Groves/Grubb species list is absolutely amazing. I have been reading his taxonomic papers for some time now, but I didn't expect this many new species.
I would use a different word ;)
 
for those not in the position to read or buy this book (me!!), here's a thread from Birdforum covering the Ungulate Taxonomy book that HMW based its splits on, with some pretty spot-on comments (IMO): Ungulate Taxonomy by Colin Groves and Peter Grubb - BirdForum
just bringing this back to the attention of those interested, the Birdforum thread above has been added to significantly since I posted, with lots more of Groves' species lists (eleven species of klipspringers....seven species of chamois.....)
 
I've read some of the new Groves book on Google books. I can get in line with a lot of his splits and renaming, but I really need to see some of the details from DNA to get in line with all of it. But, everything I've read so far makes sense.
 
just bringing this back to the attention of those interested, the Birdforum thread above has been added to significantly since I posted, with lots more of Groves' species lists (eleven species of klipspringers....seven species of chamois.....)

Just read this...dammit...its like everything I've learned has been changed
 
Got both volumes as an unexpected Christmas gift and still can´t get enough of it. It was the best Xmas surprise ever! :)
 
I have today received the leaflet announcing Volume 3 - Primates - is to be published in December 2012 . It promises description of more than 470 species .

The leaflet shows Plate 37 - baboons . I was not aware that there are 2 sub-species of Gelada - ssp gelada with a gold-coloured mane and ssp obscurus with a dark mane in the males .

I am really excited about publication of this book .
 
Cool - I have a hole in my bookcase that it will fill just nicely!

:p

Hix
 
Shame about the price tag :p which rules any of these books out for me.
 
Shame about the price tag :p which rules any of these books out for me.

I agree, the price tag is enough to put a lot of people off what I can only imagine is a fascinating book. It's approximately a fifth of my wage - absolutely not practical for a lot of people :(
 
I agree, the price tag is enough to put a lot of people off what I can only imagine is a fascinating book. It's approximately a fifth of my wage - absolutely not practical for a lot of people :(

Which makes it all the more infuriating that Chester Zoo library gets copies of the series, but is inaccessible for the indefinite future; I'd happily visit Chester for a purely library-based visit if I could!
 
wow those plates are not good! I liked the douroucoulis, but the other three samples are rubbish (I know that's harsh, but as jbnbsn99 says the gorillas look like a child illustrated them!). Certainly not up the standard one would expect from this series. See here for the sample plates: Plates | Lynx Edicions

The artist is Stephen Nash who is actually a specialist primate illustrator, and even has a monkey named after him!
Stephen D. Nash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
 
My birthday present just arrived (only two weeks late)!

I got volumes 1 and 2, and very fine books they are too! I wasn't expecting them to be quite as big and detailed as they are, I thought they might have been a bit more technical (glad they aren't). I have so far just been flicking through them, repeatedly, and reading whatever catches my eye, but I will get down to reading them properly (especially volume 2) shortly.

Have popped #3 on the Christmas list!
 
Oh dear, Ive just discovered all of the HBW and HMW are avalaible in my department library....... I now know what I'll be reading instead of doing my work!
 
What differeance is there to Walkers Mammals of the world ? A very large 2 volume set
Dean
 
dean said:
What differeance is there to Walkers Mammals of the world ? A very large 2 volume set
Walkers is Black and White photographs, many of them old photos, or of museum specimens or captive individuals.

HMW uses colour plates to illustrate the individual species and subspecies, and has chapters on families, behaviours etc, which is lavishly illustrated with some of the best wildlife photography you will see anywhere. There is much more text than Walker's too.

Walker's has been pretty much the standard mammalian reference work for all mammals, but HMW is going to surpass it.

:p

Hix
 
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