Harambe documentary

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For the record, I do consider it... odd, if not outright suspicious, that this documentary evidently didn't compare or contrast the Harambe incident with the Jambo and Binti Jua incidents.

Even Blackfish mentioned the other incidents Tilikum was involved with (Keltie Byrne & Daniel P. Dukes). They didn't exclusively focus on the incident with Dawn Brancheau.

@Erik E. Crown What do you have to say regarding this?
 
Wisp O' Mist said:
For the record, I do consider it... odd, if not outright suspicious, that this documentary evidently didn't compare or contrast the Harambe incident with the Jambo and Binti Jua incidents.

Even Blackfish mentioned the other incidents Tilikum was involved with (Keltie Byrne & Daniel P. Dukes). They didn't exclusively focus on the incident with Dawn Brancheau.

@Erik E. Crown What do you have to say regarding this?
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I agree. The prior incidents of a child falling into the gorilla exhibits at Jersey and Brookfield, when contrasted against the incident at Cincinnati), perfectly illustrate how Cincinnati made an incredibly difficult decision based on the siutation. As we all know, Harambe was was not killed because a child fell into his exhibit; he was killed because a child fell into his exhibit and there was reasonable cause to believe Harambe was going to inflict serious or fatal injuries on that child.

Bearing in mind Harambe had failed to respond to recall cues and tranquillisers are widely deemed ineffective in these scenarios, I’d be interested to know what course of action activists would recommend that would guarantee the safety of the child with the same level of certainty as the decision the Cincinnati Zoo had to take.
 
Zoofan15 said:
As we all know, Harambe was was not killed because a child fell into his exhibit; he was killed because a child fell into his exhibit and there was reasonable cause to believe Harambe was going to inflict serious or fatal injuries on that child.
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So if I understood this statement and my previous comment correctly, Harambe was/was believed to be acting hostile towards the child? Unlike the other incidents where the gorillas moved the child to a safe location and then left it alone.
 
The Alligator Lad said:
So if I understood this statement and my previous comment correctly, Harambe was/was believed to be acting hostile towards the child? Unlike the other incidents where the gorillas moved the child to a safe location and then left it alone.
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Harambe was agitated (likely from the noise from the crowd above) and was observed dragging the child by the limbs. Given the strength of these animals, one can only imagine the damage that could have been done had he thrown the child against a wall or a tree.

Binti Jua picked up the child and placed him by the keeper access gate. Since keepers taught her how to care for her first infant, some believe she was similarly taking the child to her keepers so they could provide assistance.

Many believe Jambo at Jersey was protecting the child, but the role of the silverback is to protect his family and that’s exactly what he was doing. He was seen moving one of his females (Nandi) away from the boy and placed himself between the boy and his troop to assess whether he was a threat. The cries of the child unnerved Jambo and so he decided he and his family would retreat, leading them to the dens, where the keepers had made preparations for their immediate entry.
 
I just googled "Harambe Day" to see what showed up (which is very little - as @MRJ said earlier, this thread is the prime result).

But I saw this Youtube video, which is 22 minutes long and quite rambling, but really shows the conspiracy mindset (e.g. they are being censored by, for example, not being allowed to make Harambe Day an official National Day in the USA, which later in the video he says is because of zoos basically being in control of this), and the blatant lack of knowledge about zoos (including the old chestnut of zoos need to stop taking gorillas out of the wild for profit). The video is three weeks old and currently has only 61 views and no comments, which I think speaks volumes.

Remember, "bad guys don't take a day off and neither do we".

I'd love to know how many people turn up at Cincinnati on the 28th to protest. My guess is five people.

 
Chlidonias said:
I just googled "Harambe Day" to see what showed up (which is very little - as @MRJ said earlier, this thread is the prime result).

But I saw this Youtube video, which is 22 minutes long and quite rambling, but really shows the conspiracy mindset (e.g. they are being censored by, for example, not being allowed to make Harambe Day an official National Day in the USA, which later in the video he says is because of zoos basically being in control of this), and the blatant lack of knowledge about zoos (including the old chestnut of zoos need to stop taking gorillas out of the wild for profit). The video is three weeks old and currently has only 61 views and no comments, which I think speaks volumes.

Remember, "bad guys don't take a day off and neither do we".

I'd love to know how many people turn up at Cincinnati on the 28th to protest. My guess is five people.

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I believe it’s supposed to be nationwide. If there any large crowds of protesters at any zoos that day, I would be interested to know.
 
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Just searched it up myself, one of the top results in images is a petition to make Harambe day a national holiday, with the thumbnail being Harambe as Jesus..

Some people are going wild with the whole situation.
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No, not really "some people are going wild with the whole situation". That image is from a petition from 2016 which had eight supporters. It's not exactly recent.
 
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Chlidonias said:
No, not really "some people are going wild with the whole situation". That image is from a petition from 2016 which had eight supporters. It's not exactly recent.
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From doing a little research, there seems to be quite a few petitions related to Harambe from that year…
 
The Alligator Lad said:
Just searched it up myself, one of the top results in images is a petition to make Harambe day a national holiday, with the thumbnail being Harambe as Jesus..

Some people are going wild with the whole situation.
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The documentary maker and meme creators probably wish people were ‘going wild’ but in reality it’s an event that happened a while ago that doesn’t say a whole lot about zoos or anything else in and of itself. A more relevant documentary might be about how people capitalise on social media memes vs caring about real issues but this particular filmmaker isn’t interested in that given he’s actually part of the problem.
 
LycaonSekowei said:
Who even is gonna watch this documentary outside of animal rights extremists? Will it even have that big of an impact?
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Unlike Blackfish, it doesn’t sound it will have that big of impact. I do still think, though, zoos should use this “Harambe Day” as a way of showing the positive impact that zoos have on gorilla conservation.
 
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I do still think, though, zoos should use this “Harambe Day” as a way of showing the positive impact that zoos have on gorilla conservation.
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Indeed, though I doubt the five people who come out to protest and all the conspiracy theory YouTubers will even consider their points in favour of "the evil corrupt zoos are brainwashing us"
 
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