San Diego Zoo I visited the San Diego zoo for the first time in ten years a few weeks ago...

What happened to the ones at the Safari Park we discussed earlier?

Also there's not none - Living Desert has Striped, and Monterey Zoo and America's Teaching Zoo both have Spotted. Though another 5 or 6 years and it might be close to none.

Didn't mention Safari Park since like you said, they're nigh impossible to see so hence I don't count it. The other locations are unfortunately too far where I live. Even then, I'm still disappointed about the other animals I didn't get to see like the tassies, honey badger, fishing cat, etc.
 
Even then, I'm still disappointed about the other animals I didn't get to see like the tassies, honey badger, fishing cat, etc.

Which is fair, but it's going to happen at any decent sized zoo. It's just part of the challenge of zoo-going. I missed Pygmy Hippo, Maleo, Harpy Eagle, and more at SDZ, but I don't go around saying they're a bad zoo because I missed a few species I wanted to see. I still saw tons of species I wanted to see and so while there were some disappointments I really enjoyed that visit.
 
Didn't mention Safari Park since like you said, they're nigh impossible to see so hence I don't count it. The other locations are unfortunately too far where I live. Even then, I'm still disappointed about the other animals I didn't get to see like the tassies, honey badger, fishing cat, etc.

Next time you go back to San Diego Zoo, the coconut crab exhibit is on the first floor of the insect house in the butterfly room. The crab was not out when I looked for it, but the staff member in the room said that it had been out earlier in the morning.
 
I must say, my experience of San Diego zoo is similarly mixed.

The zoos strong point was extremely large animal collection. And the San Diego climate is wonderful. Typically for American zoos, many exhibits were small but the staff was super-helpful and giving you all the attention to answer your questions.

However many exhibits were underwhelming - giraffe, elephants and lions looked like a zoo from 50 years ago. Oddly, some new exhibits were much worse than old ones - for example the infamous elephant odyssey compared against apes, tigers or giant aviaries. The problem was also lack of any information what species the zoo actually holds and where. For me, I missed a small row of aviaries with the only Tongan megapode in human care, a species I am unlikely to ever see again. But other people miss ABC animals. I cannot understand why a commercial zoo for years made no effort to sign its aviary nor keep the animal list online - it should be very easy. Perhaps part of the problem is extreme entry price and hype which set the expectations very high.
 
I have only been to San Diego Zoo once, in 1991. I had heard it being called the best zoo in the world. I preferred my visit to Los Angeles Zoo, which was not hyped up. I saw giant eland, pronghorn, mountain and Baird's tapirs, red wolf, yellow-footed rock wallaby and a 2-headed garter snake. I liked seeing the Tahitian lory at San Diego but I can't remember other unusual species there.
 
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I must say, my experience of San Diego zoo is similarly mixed.

The zoos strong point was extremely large animal collection. And the San Diego climate is wonderful. Typically for American zoos, many exhibits were small but the staff was super-helpful and giving you all the attention to answer your questions.

However many exhibits were underwhelming - giraffe, elephants and lions looked like a zoo from 50 years ago. Oddly, some new exhibits were much worse than old ones - for example the infamous elephant odyssey compared against apes, tigers or giant aviaries. The problem was also lack of any information what species the zoo actually holds and where. For me, I missed a small row of aviaries with the only Tongan megapode in human care, a species I am unlikely to ever see again. But other people miss ABC animals. I cannot understand why a commercial zoo for years made no effort to sign its aviary nor keep the animal list online - it should be very easy. Perhaps part of the problem is extreme entry price and hype which set the expectations very high.

I agree with both points, the San Diego's collection is large and vast, and the weather is nice even though it was cloudy the day I went, which sort of gave off a rather depressing mood that day. I didn't get to talk to staff aside from the one who told me about the honey badger being exclusive to the bus. I was unfortunate in that such a large portion of the animals were off exhibit the day I went - the tasmanian devils, harpy eagles, African eagle, gharial, pronghorns, hamadryas baboons, bonobos, only one little orangutan in their exhibit, absence of male gorillas, anteater, jaguar, fishing cat, flamingos, fossas, binturong, a lot off display that day, making me wonder how usual of an occurrence that is. I've never seen so many mammals off display at once, not to mention the penguins in their temporary enclosure, the okapis temporarily at the Safari Park, and the hippo exhibit under reconstruction.

The lack of info on what species the zoo holds and where got to me too, as the site lists both their zoo and Safari Park inhabitants all on one page. Many animals absent from the zoo are listed like the wombat, hyenas, etc. I was disappointed to not see the tasmanian devil and am sure I might not ever see them again, what with their short life spans and rare distribution. It would be nice if their site was updated. And I understand that not every animal can have the best exhibit in the world, especially for smaller critters, but I too was caught off guard by the ABC animals, being their popularity I would have assumed that they'd at least have really nice, large, and aesthetically pleasing enclosures, especially the lions. The price and hype definitely set my expectations high, it was not a bad zoo by any means, most of the animals aside from the bears and penguins did not look stressed or unhappy which is the most important thing. But I expected more considering how hyped the zoo is online. Google "best zoo in the world" and it is literally number one on every one of the first page's sites, articles, and blog posts that come up.
 
I have only been to San Diego Zoo once, in 1991. I had heard it being called the best zoo in the world. I preferred my visit to Los Angeles Zoo, which was not hyped up. I saw giant eland, mountain and Baird's tapirs, red wolf, yellow-footed rick wallaby and a 2-headed garter snake. I liked seeing the Tahitian lory at San Diego but I can't remember other unusual species there.

I was almost going to go to LA Zoo, but ended up splurging on the SDZ when I looked at their website and saw how many unique mammals they had that LA didn't. Ironically, most of those mammals like the tassie devils, bonobos, and more weren't even on display the day I went. Sort of wish I had gone to LA, I hear its bigger than SDZ, so even though it has less animals, the animals have larger enclosures (so I've heard). Most of the animals (koalas, takin, gorillas) would have been the same anyways, plus I could have seen chimpanzees and African Wild dogs. I would have loved to have seen the mountain tapirs and yellow-footed wallabies too. :(
 
Didn't mention Safari Park since like you said, they're nigh impossible to see so hence I don't count it. The other locations are unfortunately too far where I live. Even then, I'm still disappointed about the other animals I didn't get to see like the tassies, honey badger, fishing cat, etc.

I'm not understanding how those are too far. America's Teaching Zoo is only an hour east of Santa Barbara and 45 minutes west of Los Angeles, right between the two. Living Desert is between LA and San Diego.
 
I was unfortunate in that such a large portion of the animals were off exhibit the day I went - the tasmanian devils, harpy eagles, African eagle, gharial, pronghorns, hamadryas baboons, bonobos, only one little orangutan in their exhibit, absence of male gorillas, anteater, jaguar, fishing cat, flamingos, fossas, binturong, a lot off display that day, making me wonder how usual of an occurrence that is.

No idea but I only missed three of those on my visit - one miss, one due to exhibit repairs, and one wasn't on exhibit at the time (ambassador).

I've never seen so many mammals off display at once, not to mention the penguins in their temporary enclosure, the okapis temporarily at the Safari Park, and the hippo exhibit under reconstruction.

Why are you still getting after the zoo for repairing exhibits and protecting the health of their collection?

The lack of info on what species the zoo holds and where got to me too, as the site lists both their zoo and Safari Park inhabitants all on one page. Many animals absent from the zoo are listed like the wombat, hyenas, etc

Zoo websites are notoriously inaccurate - I can't think of a single one I'm familar off the top of my head that is 100% accurate.
Also Wombat has been confirmed back on display as of last week in the news thread. They still had Wombat regardless, just as ambassador animals.

I was almost going to go to LA Zoo, but ended up splurging on the SDZ when I looked at their website and saw how many unique mammals they had that LA didn't. Ironically, most of those mammals like the tassie devils, bonobos, and more weren't even on display the day I went. Sort of wish I had gone to LA, I hear its bigger than SDZ, so even though it has less animals, the animals have larger enclosures (so I've heard). Most of the animals (koalas, takin, gorillas) would have been the same anyways, plus I could have seen chimpanzees and African Wild dogs. I would have loved to have seen the mountain tapirs and yellow-footed wallabies too. :(

This to me says you didn't do much research - maybe you weren't sure where to look but it really implies that.
Also no LA is not bigger - I believe their acreage number is a bit higher due to some undeveloped space and bts areas. It also is a zoo that still has a lot of grotto style and older exhibits much like those you criticized earlier in the thread.
 
I'm not understanding how those are too far. America's Teaching Zoo is only an hour east of Santa Barbara and 45 minutes west of Los Angeles, right between the two. Living Desert is between LA and San Diego.

I don't live near LA or San Diego, so according to my GPS I live 4 and a half hours away from The Living Desert Zoo, plus they don't have spotted hyenas. The Teaching Zoo doesn't have enough animal variety for me to make the drive just to see the hyenas, for that drive I'd rather do LA Zoo or Santa Barbara. The closest zoo to me is Fresno Chaffe (1 and a half hours away) then LA (2 hours away).
 
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No idea but I only missed three of those on my visit - one miss, one due to exhibit repairs, and one wasn't on exhibit at the time (ambassador).



Why are you still getting after the zoo for repairing exhibits and protecting the health of their collection?



Zoo websites are notoriously inaccurate - I can't think of a single one I'm familar off the top of my head that is 100% accurate.
Also Wombat has been confirmed back on display as of last week in the news thread. They still had Wombat regardless, just as ambassador animals.



This to me says you didn't do much research - maybe you weren't sure where to look but it really implies that.
Also no LA is not bigger - I believe their acreage number is a bit higher due to some undeveloped space and bts areas. It also is a zoo that still has a lot of grotto style and older exhibits much like those you criticized earlier in the thread.

I'm not blaming the zoos for its construction and protection of animals just find it funny that the one time I get to go to San Diego some of their biggest attractions are out. Purely coincidental I know, but still. I compared both zoo websites to see which species were listed, and you might be right about LA I haven't been there in a decade either. I know it has about 130 acreage vs San Diego's 100 acreage but like you said maybe much of that is probably for unused space or behind the scenes. Glad to hear the wombats are back though. I compared both websites animal lists (which I now know are inaccurate) but based on comparisons decided on San Diego for rarities like the t-devils and honey badger, but that was before I knew I wouldn't see them. Otherwise, LA's animal selection seems very similar minus some big animals like the hippos and polar bear. Barley looked up some pics of LA Zoo and didn't find the lion or tiger exhibits too pleasing to look at, though it doesn't have the reputation of San Diego. I know their black bear passed away recently, so hopefully its old enclosure will be kpet empty until they can demolish it and replace it with something else. Next Spring I still want to visit LA at least once before I judge, but most likely it will just confirm Santa Barbara and Fresno Chaffee to be my favorite SoCal zoos from what I've visited.
 
I don't live near LA or San Diego, so according to my GPS I live 4 and a half hours away from The Living Desert Zoo, plus they don't have spotted hyenas. The Teaching Zoo doesn't have enough animal variety for me to make the drive just to see the hyenas, for that drive I'd rather do LA Zoo or Santa Barbara. The closest zoo to me is Fresno Chaffe (1 and a half hours away) then LA (2 hours away).

You never specified what hyena species. You claimed there were no other hyenas near you, when there are, you'd just rather not go to those places. That's a major difference. It sounds like you're near Bakersfield? Which would put Moorpark at around 2 hours from you.
 
I'm not blaming the zoos for its construction and protection of animals just find it funny that the one time I get to go to San Diego some of their biggest attractions are out. Purely coincidental I know, but still. I compared both zoo websites to see which species were listed, and you might be right about LA I haven't been there in a decade either. I know it has about 130 acreage vs San Diego's 100 acreage but like you said maybe much of that is probably for unused space or behind the scenes. Glad to hear the wombats are back though. I compared both websites animal lists (which I now know are inaccurate) but based on comparisons decided on San Diego for rarities like the t-devils and honey badger, but that was before I knew I wouldn't see them. Otherwise, LA's animal selection seems very similar minus some big animals like the hippos and polar bear. Barley looked up some pics of LA Zoo and didn't find the lion or tiger exhibits too pleasing to look at, though it doesn't have the reputation of San Diego. I know their black bear passed away recently, so hopefully its old enclosure will be kpet empty until they can demolish it and replace it with something else. Next Spring I still want to visit LA at least once before I judge, but most likely it will just confirm Santa Barbara and Fresno Chaffee to be my favorite SoCal zoos from what I've visited.

LA actually doesn’t keep lions anymore. The old lion exhibit was very small and has been empty for a while.
 
LA actually doesn’t keep lions anymore. The old lion exhibit was very small and has been empty for a while.

Thanks for letting me know, considering the poor enclosure they used to have I consider that a good thing. Much like the bear exhibit, hopefully, both are kept empty until they can be renovated or replaced.
 
You never specified what hyena species. You claimed there were no other hyenas near you, when there are, you'd just rather not go to those places. That's a major difference. It sounds like you're near Bakersfield? Which would put Moorpark at around 2 hours from you.

Yes, I'm in Bakersfield!
 
What happened to the ones at the Safari Park we discussed earlier?

Also there's not none - Living Desert has Striped, and Monterey Zoo and America's Teaching Zoo both have Spotted. Though another 5 or 6 years and it might be close to none.
America's Teaching Zoo is relatively unknown, so I understand why he was unaware of their collection. The Living Desert is Socal, but to suggest that the Monterey Zoo is Socal is hilariously disingenuous. Common on now. Unless there is some small facility in socal that goes by the name Monterey Zoo, then the Zoo you are referencing is 300+ miles away from Los Angeles. From my house in Orange County it is basically equal distance between the Monterey Zoo and the Phoenix Zoo. You don't have to try so hard to be right.
 
America's Teaching Zoo is relatively unknown, so I understand why he was unaware of their collection. The Living Desert is Socal, but to suggest that the Monterey Zoo is Socal is hilariously disingenuous. Common on now. Unless there is some small facility in socal that goes by the name Monterey Zoo, then the Zoo you are referencing is 300+ miles away from Los Angeles. From my house in Orange County it is basically equal distance between the Monterey Zoo and the Phoenix Zoo. You don't have to try so hard to be right.

It's closer to the OP than San Diego is.
 
I can't think of a single one I'm familar off the top of my head that is 100% accurate.
Roger Williams Park Zoo has at times had an 100% accurate zoo website. I'm pretty certain at the moment it's one species off (missing boat-billed herons), but it's certainly possible for a zoo to keep an accurate website, I wish more zoos would make this a priority.
 
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