IDA's Top 10 Worst Zoos for Elephants 2018

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Well, it's everyone's least favorite time of year again. The IDA's 2018 edition of their top 10 worst zoos for elephants is as follows:
10. Milwaukee County Zoo
9. Seneca Park Zoo
8. Topeka Zoo
7. Caldwell Zoo
6. Birmingham Zoo
5. Roger Williams Park Zoo
4. Louisville Zoo
3. Dallas Zoo
2. Natural Bridge Zoo
1. Bronx Zoo
Dishonorable Mention: Wild Adventures Theme Park
Hall of Shame: Oregon Zoo
 
Whats their beef with Dallas? didn't they just open a Giants of the savannah
a few years ago?
 
Whats their beef with Dallas? didn't they just open a Giants of the savannah
a few years ago?
Dallas got a spot because they sent 2 of their elephants to the Fresno Chaffee Zoo, which IDA considers severing precious emotional bonds with their herd.
 
"Zoos like to claim that they have changed and left the bad old days behind.
And its true. While you do see some stragglers, most if not all zoos today provide much better care then 20 years ago.

But they haven't really. No matter how modern they claim to be, zoos continue to use and abuse elephants as property to increase paid attendance for profitability
Well that money's going to elephant conservation in your big precious wild.
Despite changing public opinion and rising concern for the care of captive wild animals, zoos continue the same harmful practices for elephants: Earth's largest land mammals continue to be captured in the wild and confined in tiny zoo exhibits that cause them to suffer and die prematurely
Yeah, how dare people transport elephants on the verge of being slaughtered by poachers be relocated to exhibits the size of small zoos?

and important social bonds are severed when elephants are swapped between zoos like trading cards.
Well this trading is to keep genetic diversity up, and they at least have keepers.

Elephants are quickly disappearing from the planet and the captive animal industry is more than willing to drain wild herds to keep elephants on display.
As if they're any better in their increasingly disappearing habitat where poachers are making captivity increasingly preferable.

captivity is not conservation and never will be.
Tell me that why once elephants are declared extinct in the wild in ten years.

It's time for zoos to move away from keeping elephants captive to suffer and die, and instead focus on true conservation, which is protecting elephants where they live, in the wild.
Newsflash: zoos already do that.

Anyone else going to rebutt every single lie IDA spews in the article?
 
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Anyone else going to rebutt every single lie IDA spews in the article?
No, because I’d rather actually contribute to conservation work and not waste my time with people who refuse to listen to reason. AR groups like IDA spew so much elephant manure that it would take me weeks to get through it all. Better to just show support for the zoo’s they bash and share the wonderful things they do.
 
No, because I’d rather actually contribute to conservation work and not waste my time with people who refuse to listen to reason. AR groups like IDA spew so much elephant manure that it would take me weeks to get through it all. Better to just show support for the zoo’s they bash and share the wonderful things they do.

I fully agree. It's such a shame so many armchair experts are going to read this and leave with the opinion that zoos are awful and will never listen to any other evidence, though.

Whats their beef with Dallas? didn't they just open a Giants of the savannah
a few years ago?

Dallas almost always gets included because they took in some of those "wild" elephants that were otherwise set for slaughter in Africa a few years ago.

~Thylo
 
My thoughts on each zoo individually:

Let me begin by saying that I highly disagree with this list. Not just because the IDA is an animal rights group and I overall don't respect their agenda, but because some of these comparisons are such stretches that it's honestly foolish. This list is nothing but propaganda, but at the same time it's worthy of discussion just to see if these zoos really deserve this labeling.

Bronx Zoo: Let me just say that until about 10 minutes ago I had no clue Maxine had passed. Admittedly, holding just two elephants separate from one another is a bit of a messy situation. This also doesn't meat the updated AZA standards overall leaving Bronx in a bit of a predicament. As unfortunate as the situation is, I have faith it will be resolved sooner than later. However, I cannot deny this looks very bad for the zoo. Really not too sure how to feel about this one.

Natural Bridge Zoo: But I know exactly how to feel about this one. There isn't a whole lot left to say about Natural Bridge that hasn't been said already. Its been established that this is a very scummy place and it's elephant conditions are just about the worst in North America. The fact that Bronx is being considered worse is mind boggling. Easily the worst zoo on the list, for both elephants and every under animal stuck in this place.

Dallas Zoo: The biggest head scratcher of them all. But Dallas on this list, home to one of the most dynamic elephants herds and overall best elephant habitats in the country being anywhere near this list is absurd. The biggest complaints here are that two "traumatized" elephants, Nolwazi, and Amahle, were separated from their heard during the transport to the Fresno Chaffe zoo last October for breeding purposes. Unlike the IDA however, these zoos are doing something to try and conserve these animals by putting in the work to do so. Dallas and their inclusion on the list is so very strange in so many ways.

Louisville Zoo: Now this one is also one I have some mixed feelings on. I will fully come to terms with the fact that the Louisville elephant exhibit isn't too great. Two elephants (different species in a rather unremarkable yard. However, I think what really bothers me about this one is how they phrase their criticism. The zoo female African elephant was artificially inseminated and is due to give birth later this year. The IDA references the MeToo movement, implying that artificial insemination is the equivalent to raped or sexually assaulted. This obviously isn't the case and to say such sounds so totally obvious its almost funny. Louisville's elephant habitat isn't too great, but these remarks are so cringeworthy that it honestly makes the zoo look better to me at least.

Roger Williams Park Zoo: Honestly I do not know much about the zoo's elephant management, but I don't quite grasp the aspect of bullhooks still being used when every other zoo in the nation has phased them out (Barring Pittsburgh). However, There is no free contact so I really don't see he issue here.

Birmingham Zoo: A shock first timer. The main complaint here is the same a Dallas and it holds up about just as well. It complains that the zoo is separating it's all bull heard just for profit to create more elephant calves. This is some how a bad thing by their standards, and despite an excellent habitat and a impressive achievement they continue to bash the zoo for attempting to sustain the population.

Caldwell Zoo: Main arguments including elephants dying prematurely and only a single elephant left at the zoo at the moment. Not a whole lot to add, as I think this is a situation the zoo should handle rather quickly, but I think the fact they said 46 was prime breeding age for elephants really shows how much they really understand what their talking about.

Topeka Zoo: This is a strange one. I will admit that the zoos elephant exhibit is... not good. Putting the exhibit aside for a moment to focus on the main complaint, the death of a 58 year old asian elephant earlier this year, I think the IDA needs to except that just because an animal dies doesn't make it the zoos fault. 58 is rather old for an elephant and even under substandard conditions the fact that the zoo kept her around that long is respectable. However, a new exhibit is greatly needed.

Seneca Park Zoo: Seriously? This one was just flat out dumb, as the placement on the list has nothing to do with the care, records or exhibit for their elephants. In 2018 the zoo adopted a dog to interact with the heard of elephants at the zoo. And your probably wondering whats so terrible about that. The IDA put the zoo on the list because the zoo said they considered their elephants elderly. Yup, thats it. This was their main counterpoint. @Echobeast really does have a point, It feels like I'm losing brain cells writing this.

Milwaukee County Zoo: Any other year and I will fully admit that this would make since, but not this year. The zoo moved it's elephants to a habitat six times the size of the old yard last October, and the IDA complains that the zoo is doing the wrong thing by improving their animals conditions. Of course, nothing a zoo does will ever be good enough to meet the standards of these guys it seems. No worries IDA, I'll be their the day the exhibit opens and I'll get some nice photos for you. ;)

The Oregon shaming is so strange I really don't feeling writing about it, and I don't know enough about this Wild ventures place to form an opinion. This list was a real head scratcher like every year. I must say that I was shocked to find that Columbus and St. Louis were omitted despite both having calves die. Not that I'm saying they deserve to be on here, as there was nothing either could have done to prevent it, just surprised they weren't added considering how the IDA goes about these lists.
 
Bronx Zoo: Let me just say that until about 10 minutes ago I had no clue Maxine had passed. Admittedly, holding just two elephants separate from one another is a bit of a messy situation. This also doesn't meat the updated AZA standards overall leaving Bronx in a bit of a predicament. As unfortunate as the situation is, I have faith it will be resolved sooner than later. However, I cannot deny this looks very bad for the zoo. Really not too sure how to feel about this one.

Bronx has been very open about the passing of Maxine. The fact of the matter is Patty and Happy will kill each other if they are introduced. I agree it's an extremely messy situation, but the zoo is doing what is best for the elephants, who receive world-class care. The zoo has multiple outdoor yards (most off-show) and they rotate which elephants are on-exhibit on any particular day. At this point in both elephants' lives, ripping them from the zoo may be the worst thing you could possibly do. Additionally, if sent to a sanctuary, they still would not be able to be mixed with other elephants due to high aggression. The IDA hates Bronx in particular, and I'm pretty sure the zoo has been featured on their list more than any other due to the Happy situation. From memory, they first appeared in 2009 and then have been listed every year since 2012.

Roger Williams Park Zoo: Honestly I do not know much about the zoo's elephant management, but I don't quite grasp the aspect of bullhooks still being used when every other zoo in the nation has phased them out (Barring Pittsburgh). However, There is no free contact so I really don't see he issue here.

I've been to the RWPZ a good few times and personally I've never seen them use bullhooks. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but I've seen very little keeper-elephant interaction. The three girls have a pretty spacious yard and a nice pool, but their indoor housing is pretty atrocious in my opinion. As great as it is to have African Bush Elephants and Masai Giraffes only about an hour and a half from me, I'd like to see these species leave the zoo unless they can construct a new building for them.

~Thylo
 
St Louis lost a calf this year?

Yes, calf Kenzi died from EEHV last February.


ahhh yes, but she was 6, I was thinking of a newborn
:( I wasn't aware of that, either.

Seneca Park Zoo: Seriously? This one was just flat out dumb, as the placement on the list has nothing to do with the care, records or exhibit for their elephants. In 2018 the zoo adopted a dog to interact with the heard of elephants at the zoo. And your probably wondering whats so terrible about that. The IDA put the zoo on the list because the zoo said they considered their elephants elderly. Yup, thats it. This was their main counterpoint. @Echobeast really does have a point, It feels like I'm losing brain cells writing this.
That is the stupidest claim IDA has ever made. Quite impressive.
 
Throughout the article, they keep saying zoos should send their elephants to sanctuaries, like the one in Hohenwald, Tennessee. On one hand, there are some like Natural Bridge and Wild Adventures which just don't have the funds to improve their exhibits; on the other the sanctuary doesn't have an AZA accreditation, so we can't tell if there are defects which would actually harm the elephants.

It's been suggested by Elephant Enthusiast that Little Rock could send their elephants to Wild Adventures which would at least alleviate concerns for some.
 
Throughout the article, they keep saying zoos should send their elephants to sanctuaries, like the one in Hohenwald, Tennessee. On one hand, there are some like Natural Bridge and Wild Adventures which just don't have the funds to improve their exhibits; on the other the sanctuary doesn't have an AZA accreditation, so we can't tell if there are defects which would actually harm the elephants.

It's been suggested by Elephant Enthusiast that Little Rock could send their elephants to Wild Adventures which would at least alleviate concerns for some.
Actually, AZA Grants Certification to The Elephant Sanctuary in Tennessee - Press Releases
 
Oh right, I forgot - they don't list it on AZA's zoos and aquariums list last time I checked.
 
I would have more respect for IDA if they just flat out said they were against elephants in captivity, which is their real agenda. I will say that their antielephant campaigns HAVE improved the overall care of elephants in North American zoos over the last 15 ish years. But like all radicals they go too far.
 
I think the IDA list is utter trash, but I just wanted to comment on one or two things.

First off, the biggest thing that bugs me about the list is this:

Nolwazi, and Amahle (who the Zoo claims to be Nolwazi's daughter)

You can BET you ass on it that if Dallas had split Nolwazi and Amahle, IDA would be absolutely CRYING about how Dallas split this poor traumatized now orphaned calf from its mother, who was 100% for certain its mother. It's utterly ridiculous to me, and quite literally is the single biggest thing I'm mad about on this list. (Also FWIW, moving N+A was by far the best all around move for the two elephant groups. Frenso desperately needed new animals, and this mother calf pair are achieving two important things. There is now a matriarch at Fresno Chaffee and their existing young cow Miss Bets has female companionship again. At Dallas, their other young cows Mlilo and Zola have long ago formed a VERY tight bond, their older cows are already in a steady social group as well, and their young bull is a socially savvy animal that gets along with all the other animals in the facility. While there would have been no negatives to leaving N+A at Dallas, it definitely didn't hurt anything transferring them, and I know the staff at Dallas are a lot happier with two less animals on their plate!

Also, its nice to see that Valley Zoo is FINALLY off the list for once. I guess IDA has poo-poo'd on them enough and finally gave them a break this year.

I could go on a whole rant about the sanctuaries, but I'll leave it at that for now
 
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