"Ideal" number of species in a zoo

How many species in an "ideal" zoo ?

  • less than 50

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • 50 to 100

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 100 to 200

    Votes: 8 17.0%
  • 200 to 300

    Votes: 14 29.8%
  • 300 to 500

    Votes: 12 25.5%
  • 500 to 1000

    Votes: 7 14.9%
  • More than 1000

    Votes: 4 8.5%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .
I like zoos in the 500-1000 species range. It is enough to show a staggering level of diversity, but not so much that it needs to be too overwhelming or impossible to view in one day. That being said, zoos with far fewer species can also be difficult to fully view, so that has more to do with exhibit design. With this large range, many smaller species can also be showcased, along with a full display of larger species. There is plenty of space for a plethora of rarities. Many of the most famous institutions are around this range as well. One setback is that while not being as completely massive as the 1000+ range, these zoos can still be very large and some species may inevitably be neglected to some extent.
 
I like zoos in the 500-1000 species range. It is enough to show a staggering level of diversity, but not so much that it needs to be too overwhelming or impossible to view in one day. That being said, zoos with far fewer species can also be difficult to fully view, so that has more to do with exhibit design. With this large range, many smaller species can also be showcased, along with a full display of larger species. There is plenty of space for a plethora of rarities. Many of the most famous institutions are around this range as well. One setback is that while not being as completely massive as the 1000+ range, these zoos can still be very large and some species may inevitably be neglected to some extent.

I would not be able to manage 1.000 species in a day.
if say a zoo opens at 9:00 in the morning and closes at 17:00. That would give 8 hours to visit the zoo. So about 480 minutes. Means you have to see and identify 2 species per minute. Which, may sound really easy honestly. But if that includes searching/finding the animals, locating exhibits, getting past crowds, potentially waiting, identifying the species, making a decent photo perhaps, possible lunch...

No thanks
 
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I would not be able to manage 1.000 species in a day.
if say a zoo opens at 9:00 in the morning and closes at 17:00. That would give 8 hours to visit the zoo. So about 480 minutes. Means you have to see and identify 2 species per minute. Which, may sound really easy honestly. But if that includes searching/finding the animals, locating exhibits, getting past crowds, potentially waiting, identifying the species, making a decent photo perhaps, possible lunch...

No thanks
At the high end of the range it certainly becomes more difficult but it is not impossible if you take into consideration that many zoos that have these numbers of species don't have them all on display, so it is more manageable than it seems. Many major zoos are in this range and they are not impossible. Many species are fish in mixed aquariums, where one can identify and photograph upwards of 10 species a minute.
 
At the high end of the range it certainly becomes more difficult but it is not impossible if you take into consideration that many zoos that have these numbers of species don't have them all on display, so it is more manageable than it seems.
So your ideal number of species is when a lot of the total is not even on display? I don't understand that reasoning.
 
I would not be able to manage 1.000 species in a day.
if say a zoo opens at 9:00 in the morning and closes at 17:00. That would give 8 hours to visit the zoo. So about 480 minutes. Means you have to see and identify 2 species per minute. Which, may sound really easy honestly. But if that includes searching/finding the animals, locating exhibits, getting past crowds, potentially waiting, identifying the species, making a decent photo perhaps, possible lunch...

No thanks
Agreed, 1000 is far too many. As I suggested in my earlier post, you can add an extra 50 here and there with stuff like coral reef tanks, but more than 200 species is really pushing it.
 
So your ideal number of species is when a lot of the total is not even on display? I don't understand that reasoning.
Many zoos have quoted species numbers higher than what is readily viewable. I enjoy zoos with the range of species quoted between 500-1000 the best, such as St. Louis and San Diego. Even with that high of a quoted species number, St. Louis is not impossible to comprehensively visit in a day. According to their 2020 census numbers, they are home to over 500 species, but the most I've ever seen there or from other zoochatter species lists are around 400 species. That means that it is a zoo in the range of 500-1000 species, but it is not as overwhelming because a portion of those species are not viewable.
 
Many zoos have quoted species numbers higher than what is readily viewable. I enjoy zoos with the range of species quoted between 500-1000 the best, such as St. Louis and San Diego. Even with that high of a quoted species number, St. Louis is not impossible to comprehensively visit in a day. According to their 2020 census numbers, they are home to over 500 species, but the most I've ever seen there or from other zoochatter species lists are around 400 species. That means that it is a zoo in the range of 500-1000 species, but it is not as overwhelming because a portion of those species are not viewable.
I do think that pushing the species count towards the higher end like 1000 can be too much even for some of us zoo nerds. Not to say we don’t want to see a diverse array of species, of course we do. But a zoo even like San Diego can be done in a day if you know where to go and how to traverse it, it can be a daunting task to try to see all in one day and I say this as a member. But also zoos say they have x amount of species that certainly includes BTS animals that are part of breeding programs, ambassador animals, animals too sensitive to be displayed to the public, etc. While I do get the sentiment of what you say and certainly love to see a species rich zoo, I imagine it can be overwhelming to try to keep track of all species in such large collections and also perhaps not allowing yourself to take a moment to enjoy all the beautiful animals without the need of moving on.
 
I would not be able to manage 1.000 species in a day.
if say a zoo opens at 9:00 in the morning and closes at 17:00. That would give 8 hours to visit the zoo. So about 480 minutes. Means you have to see and identify 2 species per minute. Which, may sound really easy honestly. But if that includes searching/finding the animals, locating exhibits, getting past crowds, potentially waiting, identifying the species, making a decent photo perhaps, possible lunch...

No thanks
Zoos with over 1000 usually have lots of species bts. To get a sense of scale here on how big these facilities are, some of the famous institutions with over 1000 species include Shedd Aquarium, Omaha, and Berlin.
 
Zoos with over 1000 usually have lots of species bts. To get a sense of scale here on how big these facilities are, some of the famous institutions with over 1000 species include Shedd Aquarium, Omaha, and Berlin.

This is about hypothetical 1.000 species on-show.
 
I selected 300-500 because this, for me, strikes a good balance between have a healthy amount of species, being able to properly represent many different regions and ecosystems, and ensuring that every major exhibit has a chance to shine. That said, the criteria in the OP is vague and doesn't take certain factors into account, so really, any of choices you put could be "ideal" (except for, perhaps, both the lowest and highest answers).

It would largely depend on how much space and resources you have, what kind of animals you plan on exhibiting, how your zoo is laid out (which is more important than people realize), what kind of exhibits you are planning, and what key areas you are focusing on.

Generally speaking, if your zoo is small or focuses primarily on large mammals that are housed outdoors, then obviously that would limit the ideal species count to something lower. However; if your zoo is larger and/or focuses heavily on small animals like reptiles, amphibians, birds, or fish, AND you have the space and resources to comfortably house a larger amount of species, then I see no problem with having a higher species list.

On the subject of large species counts, while I can see where the comments I am seeing in this thread stating that zoos with over 500 species are too "excessive" and "overwhelming" are coming from; as someone who really enjoys small animals and good exhibit design, I find myself easily getting "lost" in well-made and species-rich exhibits, I do feel that species count alone is not a factor of whether I personally find a zoo is overwhelming or not. I feel the zoo's size, layout, exhibitry, and what actually makes up the collection are equally important.

Compare Omaha vs. North Carolina, 2 zoos I have visited.

North Carolina has around 120 species (based on @nczoofan 's most recent species list). This is leaning slightly towards the smaller side among major US zoos, so in theory, it should not be anywhere near overwhelming. But then there's the fact that NC is huge; nearly 500 acres (and that's only developed land) with relatively large walking distances between major exhibits, and with some exhibits being larger than some entire zoos. With any exhibit being a potential time sink for me depending on what's out, I find myself sometimes being "overwhelmed" or "short on time" because the zoo is so huge, that I have to balance time spent observing animals vs. time spent traveling to the next habitat (I solve this by doing 2-day trips, but that's beside the point).

Omaha, in contrast, has somewhere around 900 species (although how much of that is actually on display vs. behind the scenes is unknown to me). That's pretty big and may seem overwhelming at first, but you have to consider that Omaha is a smaller zoo (around ~125 acres), has a large amount of small animals such as reptiles and fish, and features several large indoor exhibits with multiple mixed-species display. There is more to see at Omaha, but I am also spending less time traveling between exhibits, so as someone whose home zoo is NC, Omaha never really felt overwhelming because of the species count (if anything, it was more so due to me not being able to get enough of some of the fantastic exhibits and animals there).

Basically, you could argue that both zoos have their ideal species counts, despite and due to the various differences between them (I do feel that NC could use more species to fill in gaps in their African collection, but that's an entirely different matter).

I apologize if this went off topic, but in my opinion, people should not focus exclusively on raw species count when describing a zoo as overwhelming and/or steering clear of higher species counts just because they may be overwhelmed. A zoo with 500+ species can avoid being overwhelming if it's well laid-out and uses good space economy.

That said, anything over 1000 species can definitely be excessive unless the zoo has multiple indoor exhibits with huge mixed-species displays, like an aquarium or indoor rainforest.
 
I selected 300-500 because this, for me, strikes a good balance between have a healthy amount of species, being able to properly represent many different regions and ecosystems, and ensuring that every major exhibit has a chance to shine. That said, the criteria in the OP is vague and doesn't take certain factors into account, so really, any of choices you put could be "ideal" (except for, perhaps, both the lowest and highest answers).

It would largely depend on how much space and resources you have, what kind of animals you plan on exhibiting, how your zoo is laid out (which is more important than people realize), what kind of exhibits you are planning, and what key areas you are focusing on.

Generally speaking, if your zoo is small or focuses primarily on large mammals that are housed outdoors, then obviously that would limit the ideal species count to something lower. However; if your zoo is larger and/or focuses heavily on small animals like reptiles, amphibians, birds, or fish, AND you have the space and resources to comfortably house a larger amount of species, then I see no problem with having a higher species list.

On the subject of large species counts, while I can see where the comments I am seeing in this thread stating that zoos with over 500 species are too "excessive" and "overwhelming" are coming from; as someone who really enjoys small animals and good exhibit design, I find myself easily getting "lost" in well-made and species-rich exhibits, I do feel that species count alone is not a factor of whether I personally find a zoo is overwhelming or not. I feel the zoo's size, layout, exhibitry, and what actually makes up the collection are equally important.

Compare Omaha vs. North Carolina, 2 zoos I have visited.

North Carolina has around 120 species (based on @nczoofan 's most recent species list). This is leaning slightly towards the smaller side among major US zoos, so in theory, it should not be anywhere near overwhelming. But then there's the fact that NC is huge; nearly 500 acres (and that's only developed land) with relatively large walking distances between major exhibits, and with some exhibits being larger than some entire zoos. With any exhibit being a potential time sink for me depending on what's out, I find myself sometimes being "overwhelmed" or "short on time" because the zoo is so huge, that I have to balance time spent observing animals vs. time spent traveling to the next habitat (I solve this by doing 2-day trips, but that's beside the point).

Omaha, in contrast, has somewhere around 900 species (although how much of that is actually on display vs. behind the scenes is unknown to me). That's pretty big and may seem overwhelming at first, but you have to consider that Omaha is a smaller zoo (around ~125 acres), has a large amount of small animals such as reptiles and fish, and features several large indoor exhibits with multiple mixed-species display. There is more to see at Omaha, but I am also spending less time traveling between exhibits, so as someone whose home zoo is NC, Omaha never really felt overwhelming because of the species count (if anything, it was more so due to me not being able to get enough of some of the fantastic exhibits and animals there).

Basically, you could argue that both zoos have their ideal species counts, despite and due to the various differences between them (I do feel that NC could use more species to fill in gaps in their African collection, but that's an entirely different matter).

I apologize if this went off topic, but in my opinion, people should not focus exclusively on raw species count when describing a zoo as overwhelming and/or steering clear of higher species counts just because they may be overwhelmed. A zoo with 500+ species can avoid being overwhelming if it's well laid-out and uses good space economy.

That said, anything over 1000 species can definitely be excessive unless the zoo has multiple indoor exhibits with huge mixed-species displays, like an aquarium or indoor rainforest.
I agree, very well stated. The layout of a zoo is probably the biggest factor in determining how overwhelming it is, along with the type of species exhibited.
 
And thus the answer to the question is that there is no "ideal number of species" for a zoo to keep, because everybody is going to have a different "ideal".
Have to agree with this. Some people want a small, minimalistic collection with mostly large, common creatures, while others want something of a “mega-zoo,” a term I use in this scenario rather lightly. I, personally find the “ideal” somewhere between the 300-600 species mark in a rather large zoo.
 
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