If you dunnart know they were bringing back the thylacine

Jayden8763 said:
there are many people who are alive today that remember the thylacine, they are just very old, however with Colossal's recent efforts, we will soon see the thylacine again
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Just to set realistic expectations for thylacine revival, serious scientists have been talking about bringing back the thylacine since the announcement that Dolly the sheep was cloned in 1996. In almost 30 years it seems like very little actual progress has been made on that front, despite substantial effort by serious people.
 
yes but have you even seen what colossal has done?
as they said at colossal, it isn't a matter of if, but when. now watch this:



 
do you know how many emails i've gotten from their newsletter that has said they have made another breakthrough?
 
look, don't try and prove them wrong, they know what they are doing and all of the things they say they have done are proven to be true, colossal is an incredible company that are doing an incredible thing. they are restoring the past for a better future and it's that simple, yet so complex.
 
Jayden8763 said:
look, don't try and prove them wrong, they know what they are doing and all of the things they say they have done are proven to be true, colossal is an incredible company that are doing an incredible thing. they are restoring the past for a better future and it's that simple, yet so complex.
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I would argue they aren't even restoring the past. The animal they are creating won't be a Thylacine, in neither a biological, ecological nor philosophical sense. Just something kind of resembling one.
 
colossal is trying to restore ecosystems that have been destroyed by certain creatures absences to ensure that any species that are in trouble do not go extinct. Colossal cares about the earth and to question them without even knowing enough about them is wrong.
 
Jayden8763 said:
well what is the problem then with it. tell me.
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Colossal is attempting to create these supposed Thylacines via gene editing of the Fat-tailed Dunnart. Fundamentally, they are not cloning an animal, like many other "de-extinction" attempts have been, but rather creating a modified Thylacine-like dunnart.

Except, a dunnart is not a Thylacine. In fact, I struggle to think of a carnivorous marsupial which is less like a Thylacine. Thylacines were fairly large predators, weighing 25 kilos on average and hunting large prey such as kangaroos. Meanwhile, dunnarts are insectivores which weigh about 20 grams at maximum.

Here's a comparison of skeletal structures:

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Dunnart

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Thylacine

These animals have fundamentally different behaviors, biology and ecology. A modified dunnart cannot be a Thylacine. And even in the unlikely scenario that this animal even resembles a Thylacine, it would be incapable of behaving like a Thylacine, both behaviorally and ecologically.

Colossal is a company that desperately wants to sound like it knows what it's talking about, but ultimately doesn't.
 
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colossal is actually editing the 2% difference between the thylacine and dunnart to make a thylacine, and so far they are doing well. And if you actually watched the videos i sent you, it says that due to the way they are doing this, even the first thylacine will know it's a thylacine. it is not a modified dunnart, but instead a thylacine that got made with the help of a female dunnart which would not change anything in its DNA before it gets moved to an artificial womb in which it will be born.

Colossal clearly knows what they are talking about.
 
Jayden8763 said:
colossal is actually editing the 2% difference between the thylacine and dunnart to make a thylacine, and so far they are doing well. And if you actually watched the videos i sent you, it says that due to the way they are doing this, even the first thylacine will know it's a thylacine. it is not a modified dunnart, but instead a thylacine that got made with the help of a female dunnart which would not change anything in its DNA before it gets moved to an artificial womb in which it will be born.
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A 2% DNA difference is huge and should not be thought of lightly. That's well over the difference between humans and chimpanzees. That accounts for millions of nucleotides.

And yes, fundamentally, this animal will be a modified dunnart. They are literally creating it by modifying dunnart cells. You denying this shows that you're the one who doesn't understand this.

"Even the first thylacine will know it's a thylacine" is a meaningless sentence. A Thylacine has no concept of what a Thylacine is. And, fundamentally, it will almost certainly be missing knowledge that all Thylacines has, such as learned behaviors and probably even some instinctual ones.
Jayden8763 said:
Colossal clearly knows what they are talking about.
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If that's the case, then they should be well aware that the Fat-tailed Dunnart is not the closest living relative of the Thylacine. :p They don't even seem to know this.
 
ok 1. the behaviours and instincts are all there and 2. yes i know its a quoll, and they know that too but they are too busy saving the quoll, but once they have done what they are doing to save the quoll and get rid of the massive amounts of cane toads with it, then they will put the thylacine in NT but until then, they have to use the fat tailed dunnart because they need another closest living relative. (btw they have used other Dasyurids for this) now pls just stop being mean to colossal because whether you like it or not and whether i can explain it or not it doesn't matter, they are doing the right thing.
 
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