Javan Rhino babies

(as the current number of documented rhinos is only 32, while 50-60 are estimated on the basis of circumstantial and spatial evidence).

What I don't understand in all debates about Javan Rhino in Udjong Kulon is that the estimated population size has been quoted as '50-60 individuals' for as long as I can remember(50 years+) so if there is successful breeding, good protection and minimal poaching, why has this estimate remained the same during all this time?

Regarding the Vietnamese population- presumably it is the the size of footprints that has led them to believe there may be no adult male present, rather than DNA analysis of dung etc. This population seems doomed unless either a breeding male has been overlooked, or one is translocated from Udjong Kulon.
 
I`ve spend some time trying to find up-to-date info on the rhinos in Cat Loc and it seems nothing new has been published in the last 2 years or so. There are serveral references on websites like the one quoted above that "it was feared no male was left". I havn`t been able to find the reason why that was feared. However, the more detailed reports (2005-2006, so NOT up to date) on the javan rhino status in Cat Loc say field signs indicate the presence of about 3 rhinos and no more then 5, while the DNA analysis gives evidence of 6-7 animals and confirms that both genders are present in the area. SOme pictures have been taken by camera traps, but identification of individuals has given just limited sucesses, one of them is a female. Another article said the animals caught on picture were probably the same 1-2 animals. The last sign of breeding was a half-grown juvenile that showed up in a camera trap in 1998 (birth date estimated 1996). See here: http://www.asianrhinos.org.au/pdf/Feb06NL.pdf

Again, this is from early 2006 and I could not find anything more up-to-date.

If the results from the DNA analysis is correct, that proves how extraordinary difficult it is to track the rhinos in the dense forest with steep hills, and how much information is overlooked by trackers and camera traps. I am hoping, hoping, hoping that some animals have never been counted and that calves have been overlooked too...

Regarding Ujong Kulon, take into consideration that the number of rhinos is just an estimate and there may be more today or - in the last decades - might have been fewer. I`d think that the current estimates are more accurate then those 20 or 30 years ago, so maybe a population raise hasn`t been noticed. Or the current estimate is too low which would be fantastic.
 
:) I'm going to be in Ujung Kulon next year, probably around October some time (if all things go to plan)

Hope you have a good trip and if you are very lucky maybe you could get to see some rare animals, all the best with your trip
 
First of all an interesting video
YouTube - Javan Rhino

Below is another link about four calf's being born, different to the one I have posted before.

BBC News | SCI/TECH | Javan rhinos a little less rare

So according to the evidence at least 12 rhinos have been born since 1999. For such a small group of animals that is quite high considering what we know about the gestation and birth intervals. So it begs the question why is the population still struggling? or is it due to the fact we cannot accurately determine the population, as they say they have identified 32 individuals but estimate 50-60.

Calves of rare Javan Rhino found in Indonesia .:. NewKerala - India 's Top Online Newspaper

Interesting this link says the calf’s are four years old and that in the last 3 years 7 calf’s have been born.

Any chance you could post a link to your source Mark?
 
Taun, I just googled "javan rhino" into the news section and 46 Articles came up, So take your pick which one you want look at, lol. Also there is another news item from the BBC news for Dem 08, there are quite a few stories to look at.
 
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I have googled it, however if you read the articles you get varying reports, esp about the age of the four calfs. :confused:
 
I have googled it, however if you read the articles you get varying reports, esp about the age of the four calfs. :confused:

Thats the problem Taun, it's very difficult getting a clear picture of what Rhinos are in the park, no one can say for sure how many or even the number of males or females are there, as Jelle pointed out they are a jungle animal who are active at night
 
Thats the problem Taun, it's very difficult getting a clear picture of what Rhinos are in the park, no one can say for sure how many or even the number of males or females are there, as Jelle pointed out they are a jungle animal who are active at night

That may well be.

Having read through ten or more different news articles on this, atleast 40% are saying that two of the rhinos were seen on a beach and there are estimate age ranges on the mothers.

This is what I am trying to work out which are the more realiabe sources of information?
 
This is what I am trying to work out which are the more realiabe sources of information?[/QUOTE]

Try the website - Rhino foundation of Indonesia, -they have a link to reports from the National parks
 
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Regarding Ujong Kulon, take into consideration that the number of rhinos is just an estimate and there may be more today or - in the last decades - might have been fewer. Or the current estimate is too low which would be fantastic.

Yes it would. I don't have too much faith in population estimates nowadays. After all, they just found another 125,000 Lowland Gorillas in Africa!
 
The only thing we know for sure is that it is almost impossible to get accurate population estimates of most wild animals, especially in dense forest habitats. Hopefully the increased deployment of newer technology will give us more detailed information about the Javan rhinos. In any case the news is good as it confirms that there is a breeding population in Java, which cannot be said for the Vietnamese population.

Regarding the doucs/gorillas mentioned above, the same situation occurred with the aye-aye. For years minimal knowledge was extrapolated to give an estimate of fewer than 50 individuals in total. It is now thought that there are more likely to be around 10.000
 
Hopefully the increased deployment of newer technology will give us more detailed information about the Javan rhinos.

Of course, they know, or presumably know, there are no Rhinos anywhere in Java apart from Udjong Kulon? How big is the U K park/peninsula? How many rhinos could it hold at its full capacity I wonder?
 
It has been mentioned, they believe it can hold 100 rhino's.

In that case, if they have (historically) remained undisturbed, free of poaching and well protected over the last fifty years or so, the rhino population should be approaching that sort of level anyway. Maybe these surveys just don't show all the animals that are actually there- its not exactly easy terrain for scientists to work in.
I can't really see how the population can be effectively be determined but its good to know there are young animals present.
 
I can't really see how the population can be effectively be determined but its good to know there are young animals present.

From artictles I have found there seems to be a few baby rhino's found every 2 or 3 years.
 
In that case, if they have (historically) remained undisturbed, free of poaching and well protected over the last fifty years or so, the rhino population should be approaching that sort of level anyway. Maybe these surveys just don't show all the animals that are actually there- its not exactly easy terrain for scientists to work in.
I can't really see how the population can be effectively be determined but its good to know there are young animals present.

The rhinos have been relatively well protected over the last 35 years or so. WWF has been involved in the project's inception and has continued supporting the sanctuary and its staff with rhino conservation measures and ecological research over this entire time frame.

However, ecological research in a dense jungle environment requires is a long term effort requiring well trained scientific staff and adequate (in numbers and intensity), continued patrolling and report documentation by both scientists, forestry staff and rangers as well as adequate standardised equipment and technological resources to effectively study the rhino and other faunal and floral as well as environmental factors in the sanctuary.

Whereas intensive research has been done since its inception, technological advances (camera trapping, non-invasive genetic biological materials and statistical absence/abundance studies) have only been applied since the early 2000's. These have allowed for far more detailed data on the rhino population than previously possible. Earlier estimates were more or less based on anecdotal evidence (spoor, track width-length, mudbath, feeding areas and other rhino activities) as well as some but rare actual sightings and were essentially/could have been either over- or underestimates.

The new technology has allowed for more accurate data on the structure and make-up of the rhino population. Not unimportantly so the current estimate of the potential of the sanctuary to accomodate 100 Javan rhinos is based on the best case assumption of optimum habitat and ecological/environmental conditions. The optimum conditions for this number of Javan rhino have not yet been fully addressed and several negative factors are impacting the potential for growth in the rhino population.

Habitat surveys have determined that there is some evidence that a native plant species is an obstacle to major rhino food plants from flourishing and thus impacting the possibilities for population increase and frequency of births. Another outcome of the habitat surveys is that the density of Javan banteng in the sanctuary may actually negatively impact the rhino numbers in the sanctuary through food source competition. Sanctuary management has embarked on a programme to remove some of these potentially negative factors by proposing to relocate a significant portion of the local Javan banteng to other reserves with no or low banteng numbers and large scale removal of the competitor plant species. and equally has increased the research capacities of its research staff.

An outcome of the earlier scientific research has shown that patrolling of the sanctuary requires more manpower and a well-trained ranger force. Hence, the number of rangers has increased, the number of patrols has increased, the area of patrolling has been extended (to also include the sea entry points for the sanctuary), training has improved and financial recompense has been improved (allthough just part of the ranger force enjoys this benefit under the Rhino Patrolling Unit programme supported by WWF/IUCN and EAZA/AZA zoos).

The camera trapping, visual sightings and anecdotal rhino sign have underlined that the sex ratio in the rhino population may be somewhat skewed towards the bulls. However, this could equally be a reflection of the fact that cows generally tend to be even more secretive nature ... lest they attend to calves etcetera).

All the above factors exemplify that only in the last few years have estimates of the rhino population been anywhere more reliable and yet not 100% fool-proof. Only more intensive ecological research can provide an accurate estimate of current rhino numbers and population structure and sex ratio. If all these population data are known within a 90-95% confidence limit, then sanctuary management can actually decide to transfer out Javan rhinos for establishment of a second rhino population. It is hence a long term project and in a very dense and remote rainforest environment that provides extreme challenges to both scientific and ranger/forestry staff.

Hence, we may be a long way off yet from achieving the optimum number of Javan rhinos in Ujung Kulon. However, I do think that the setting up of a satellite rhino population within central Java and absorption into this sanctuary of some Ujung Kulon Javan rhinos may be closer than we might think. Alltogether, the outlook for Javan rhinos at Ujung Kulon is much more positive than the Vietnamese population (which may well now be functionally extinct ... allthough that is not a reason not to continue trying to increase their numbers through better habitat and species conservation). A formative estimate of 55-60 Javan rhinos and continued breeding over an extended time-frame (since 2000 at least 11 calves ...) bodes well for this taxon. :cool:
 
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Of course, they know, or presumably know, there are no Rhinos anywhere in Java apart from Udjong Kulon? How big is the U K park/peninsula? How many rhinos could it hold at its full capacity I wonder?
If you look at a good map of Java, the tiny almost-triangular-shaped peninsula at the extreme south-west corner of the island is Ujung Kulon National Park. It only covers about 760 square kilometres. The park is actually in two main parts, one on the irregularly-shaped island of Pulau Penaitan which measures roughly 15x15km (although the main part of the island is about 10x10km); and the mainland section, of which the peninsula itself measures less than 20km north-to-south and less than 30km west-to-east, with the park also extending beyond the neck of the peninsula on the "mainland" side for a further 15x15km
 
Jelle may know this one, Is there any idea of how large the new park area is for Javan rhinos would be when they do move some in the future, is it a National park?
 
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