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I believe that breeding is planned, maybe not at first, but it is being designed as a breeding facility. As for the Rhinos and Hippos there are other plans for those. From everything I've heard, our woodlands exhibit is slated for a remodel this winter and will be able to house White Rhinos and Cheetahs. This is yet to be seen though.
 
I believe that breeding is planned, maybe not at first, but it is being designed as a breeding facility. As for the Rhinos and Hippos there are other plans for those. From everything I've heard, our woodlands exhibit is slated for a remodel this winter and will be able to house White Rhinos and Cheetahs. This is yet to be seen though.

Doesn't Dallas have Black Rhinos?
 
And another 2 species bite the dust. So much for zoos with representative collections of animals. Elephant expansion at the expense of rhinos and hippos ... truly mind boggling. :confused:

This especially so since no breeding is envisaged (or is it now)????

I'm with Kifaru on this (IF they are scratching these 2 species to make MORE room for the elephants, which isn't quite clear.) Unfortunately, many in the zoo world are NOT doing what I suggest, and that is to IGNORE the critics (IDA/PETA/Hancocks) when they criticize zoos for keeping elephants. Many zoo (and perhaps, just perhaps, Dallas is one of them) think they can please these critics by giving their elephants enormous spaces -- sometimes at the detriment of other animals. What they don't realize is that these critics canNOT be pleased, no matter what, as their intentions have nothing to do with benefitting elephants -- they simply want the closure of all zoos.
 
Well, maybe Dallas wants to have the best elephant exhibit in the nation rather than just an above average good one. I agree it would have been nice to have hippos and rhinos, but I'm more interested in the quality of exhibits rather than quantity. Surely this new elephant habitat will be world-class and certainly Jenny deserves an enormous space after spending decades in her quarter-acre pen.
 
I don't think that the the Savanna will be built at the detriment of any animal. There are other places in the WOA that are more suited for these animals. When the original concept of the Savanna was introduced, even before the Wilds opened in the late 80's, the area that is now going to be the wilds was larger, but the addition of a large vet hospital which is adjacent to the Savanna hampers any more development. I think like BlackRhino said, it is more about quality than quantity. The rhinos and hippos were only ever a thought years ago. If you add these two in, where would the space come from. Do you take out the lions, or do you reduce the size of the elephant yards by more than an acre. Then you have to think about barn space and filtration with the hippos.

Personally, I would love to see White Rhinos in the Woodlands Habitat (which is proposed) along either cheetahs or hoofstock, Hippos in the River Habitat (more appropriate than the Savanna anyway and is actually partially designed to house them at some point with some filtration upgrades and a new barn), and the Black Rhinos in the Bush Habitat. Is this a pipe dream - of course, but I know that over the years there has been talk about the 1st two. Whether anything happens, who knows, it is one of the farthest things from the minds of those who make decisions right now.
 
What is actually the long term vision with black rhinos at Dallas?
They have 3.0 - I believe - and no breeding potential ...!

I'm not sure of the long term. Only one is considered suited for breeding. The other two have health issues (old age and a genetic condition). I know that DAK was very interested in getting one of them, but back off when his health problems became apparent. As the whole area where they live now is in limbo as to what will happen to it, no long term goals have been set.
 
I', back after a two week hiatus (damn not having internet connection). I have a new review with lots of pictures coming of the Abilene Zoo later tonight or tomorrow.
 
Abilene Zoo Review

Finally I have reached the last true "zoo" that I have planned to visit this summer. No need to fret faithful readers I will still visit other facilities in this great state (like Fossil Rim). So on to Abilene. The first thing I had to do in order to write this review is learn to spell the city's name. I had the hardest time typing this location into my GPS in my car. Hint, Abilene is not spelled how it sounds, I think there is a silent "q" somewhere in it. So after 2.5 hours of driving I reached the zoo. Incidentally, I spent 5 hours of driving and only 2 hours at the zoo. This will be one of the shorter reviews I've written. No 3 post or 4 post epics here.

So entering the zoo. First thing is that my GPS was wrong and was sending me to a different part of town. Luckily I am smart enough to read road signs. I find the zoo, park, and then pay and enter. Only 4 bucks to get in. I didn't try and get any discount with any of my memberships, I figured the four bucks was cheap enough not to haggle. The odd thing here was they asked if I would like to buy food for the animals. Huh?!? For $1.50 I figured why not. I was only to not feed the monkeys. This left me feeling a little odd, but why not. Upon entering I noticed this zoo is much sparser than any others I've been to. This is not a bad thing, just a reflection on the climate and topography of west Texas - flat and dry. The first exhibits I came to were nice ones for alligators and waterbirds/flamingos (thankfully not mixed). I liked these, simple, not overly designed. Next to the gators was a small bird cage for a few native songbirds and an Attwater's Prairie Chicken. This highly endangered bird could have used a lot more space. Next to the water birds were a few more bird cages, one for hornbills and one for superb starlings. Next to here was a nice little are for Prairie Dogs. Lots of the marmots here, simple exhibit again and effective. A small pond for turtles was near here that was rather uninteresting as it just held native turtles that you can see in a local creek.

Imposing in front of you now is a large bridge over a barren exhibit. This is the Giraffe area. The giraffes were off exhibit today after 4 steady days of rain the exhibit had to have time to dry out. The bridge brought you over the exhibit above the head level of the giraffes. If they were out, I would have fed them. Alas, sigh. It may be somewhat small, but not too bad, and I believe they are going to be expanding the area soon. Heading back towards the front we next find a heard of Bison. The bison are acclimatized to the public feeding them. A few of the Bison came right up to you and seemed to beg for the dry wafers that I had. Next to the Bison are Maned Wolves. Nice area for them, but it is a shame that I have to look at them through a chain link fence. Aside from the fence, I liked the exhibit. Next to here was an area for spider monkeys. Nothing too fancy, but no real trees to speak of. Lots of climbing and ropes so the monkeys seemed to be fine here. Next to here was what I think is the best exhibit at the zoo, surprise its the Jaguars. It's not spacious, but it is the biggest in Texas. On the map when I looked at it, I was prepared to be completely disappointed, but surprise no. There were two jaguars here one spotted and one black. Oddly enough there were full brothers. The area was nicely planted with lots of climbing and a nice water feature. It puts Fort Worth's to shame. (Doesn't take much BTW). Next to here was a pitiful black bear. This may be the biggest victim of the feed the animals policy. The bear was up against the bars all day begging for the crackers that the guests had. The exhibit wasn't necessarily bad, but as the bear - at least during my visit - didn't use an area larger than his rump it wasn't good. When can I see a great bear exhibit? Across from here is a nice cage for Angolan Colobus Monkeys. I had never seen this species before. I always like seeing new animals and this was ok. A fairly big cage with some climbing opportunities so in all not bad for the animals.

Now to the back of the zoo. Past the giraffes are areas for Black Rhinos and across from them Zebras and Ostriches. The Black Rhinos are in an area that used to hold African Elephants. It would have been terrible for Elephants but for Rhinos it's not too bad. As it was completely muddy here the rhinos were at home. Across from here were the Zebras and a lone Ostrich. If the adjoining area for Giraffes was connected to this yard it would be a great exhibit. Next to here were areas for Secretary Birds, Crowned Cranes, and Ring Tailed Lemurs. The lemur exhibit was boring, the birds though had a nice area and both shared their home with Vulturine Guinea Fowls.

Across from the African birds were two areas for big cats. A single White Tiger was in one. Ugh. Not great for a tiger. Conversely the same space for the two tigers next door seemed to be fine. I think it may just be that I hate White Tigers. I think up until earlier this year the tiger area used to hold a Hyena. I would much rather have seen that. In an education building across from here were two small ocelot cubs awaiting the construction of a new exhibit for them.

Last but not least is Reptile House. Great herp exhibit. It was all redone in 2007. Every exhibit in here is good and has a LCD display telling you about each animal. A guest told me they have the largest collection of venomous snakes in the world. I am highly skeptical of this as I can see more at my reptile house in Dallas and I know that that is only a fraction of our collection. At any rate a cool collection.

And that's it. Like I said a small zoo only about 15 acres. If I had to rank it on my normal scale of 1-10 it gets a 4. I think they've tried really hard to get those major animals that everyone wants to see at the zoo. No apes, elephants and hippos, but they had everything else. Maybe tomorrow I will do a summary post on all the exhibits and zoos I've seen with some ranking lists.
 
I am intrigued by the jaguar exhibit, as I have always wanted to photograph black and yellow jaguar together. Is it a good photo op - that is, naturalistic looking and clear view (or if view is through fence, you can get close enough to blur out wires with a long lens)?
 
Texas Zoo Summary

So I have now visited all of the zoos I was planning on visiting this summer. A grand total of 9 zoos and one aquarium (DWA). Here is my summary. I will leave the aquarium out of it as it is like comparing apples to kumquats. I will also break down my analysis into big city and small city zoos.

Big City Zoos (in no order)
Fort Worth
Dallas
Houston
San Antonio

Small City
Caldwell
Cameron Park
Ellen Trout
Abilene
Frank Buck

Here goes.

Big City Zoos

For the big city zoos I have to be completely unbiased as I am including Dallas (my home zoo and employer) in the equation. That said I still find it to be the best. Let me qualify what I am looking for in a zoo. I want to see large, spacious exhibits that make me go wow. I want to see naturalistic immersion habitats that make me feel like I am wherever the animal I am looking at comes from. Dallas does this to a considerably higher degree than any other of the big city zoos. The entirety of the Wolds of Africa is this way and that's well over half of the zoo. Throw in the largest tiger exhibit in the country, a great otter exhibit, and one of the largest collections of herps in the world it is hard for the others to compete. It also has the added bonus of being on average 40 acres larger than the 3 other zoos I am comparing it to.

Fort Worth comes next. It is a great zoo and is only slightly behind Dallas. Where it falls short in my opinion is in the recreation of naturalistic habitats. For the most part the exhibits are well above standard and not lacking in most regards. Here the people elements seem to have trumped the animal elements and this may be what draw in the crowds. In looking at the species they have it is a near perfect collection which to me actually give it kind of a bland feel. There is nothing adventurous here just a series of well done exhibit for the most popular animals you can find.

Next up is Houston. Currently Houston is an odd mishmash of exhibits, but that will soon change with their new expansion. There is only one "wow factor" exhibit here and that is their lion exhibit from the 1960's. Houston has the added bonus of having a good aquarium on grounds something that neither Dallas or Ft. Worth have (althought FW has a few tanks in their Australia exhibit).

San Antonio is last. When half of you zoo is devoted to nothing but birds in bland to offensive exhibits don't expect rave reviews. The whole rock quarry aspect is mind numbingly terrible. The new Africa Live exhibit offers some promise and what is open is phenomenal. If the rest of the zoo heads this direction then it will become better. One word here - layout. One of the hardest zoos to get around I've been to. It is a just a labyrinth of paths with no clear direction.

Small City Zoos

Hands down Caldwell wins here. The breath taking East African exhibit and the North American plains exhibit are enough to put any zoo in the upper tier of zoos. While it may be small everything, with the exception of a few small bird cages, is excellent. No make that brilliant. Just get rid of the white tigers and I am thinking it might rank it near a perfect 10.

Next up is Cameron Park Zoo in Waco. Right below Caldwell and not far from it either. Nothing is badly done here, and as the whole zoo was built in 1993 and has been expanded consistently ever since it is all in the newer zoo mentality. The only zoo to be completely bio-geographically laid out with sections for North America, South America, Africa, and Asia. There are no animals out of place in any of these exhibits. Hopefully I will get there in a week or so to review their newest exhibit.

Next would be Abilene. Run of the mill small city zoo. Since it is located in west Texas (a near desert for those who don't know) its landscaping is much sparser. It does have an impressive collection of popular animals, but that's about all it has.

Frank Buck Zoo in Gainesville comes next. For a city of on 15,000 or so to have a zoo at all is impressive. The Savanna exhibit is quite nice, and may be the biggest Savanna in Texas. The addition of new bear exhibits soon will greatly improve this zoo.

Last is Ellen Trout. I've had second thoughts on this zoo, but I still stand by my initial review. Remove some of the cramped and dangerous exhibits and it goes from last to thirds on this list. Wouldn't be too hard. I just don't want to be able to stick my hand in an alligator pond.

To sum up

Big Cities
Dallas
Fort Worth
Houston
San Antonio

Small Cities
Caldwell
Cameron Park
Abilene
Frank Buck
Ellen Trout

Next post will be a ranking of individual exhibits.
 
Individual Texas Exhibits

I thought I would give a quick top ten exhibit run down and a brief summary of what I think are the best exhibits in the state. To be fair when I talk about an exhibit I am referring to a single habitat so something like the Wilds of Africa is not to me a single exhibit. I'm sure I'm going to miss something but here goes.

10.
Caldwell Zoo - Bongo/Colobus Monkey/Yellow-Backed Duiker exhibit.
I really liked this exhibit. It is a fascinating mix of animals that I doubt you will see anywhere else. It may be one of the largest netted enclosures around too. I wish I could see Bongo and monkeys together more often.

9.
Cameron Park Zoo - Elephant exhibit
By far the best (current) exhibit for elephants in the state. Lush green grass, large deep pools, and lots of room. Only reason it is not high is that I believe they only have one elephant currently.

8.
Houston Zoo - Lion Exhibit
With lots of different viewing opportunities including an underground tunnel this is a cool exhibit. Very natural looking and a large pool stocked with lots of fish give the lions a great enrichment opportunity.

7.
Caldwell Zoo - American Plains
Huge area for Bison, Deer, Cranes, Waterfowl, and Longhorn Cattle. Simplicity at its best. Only thing I would love to see done to make this even better is the addition of a few more bison and maybe a Pronghorn or two.

6.
San Antonio Zoo - Africa Live
This currently only refers to Phase I the river area. As this is all viewed from a single building I see it as a single exhibit. Best hippo exhibit I've seen (granted I've only seen three bust still...). Everything is well done and has a feel unlike any exhibit I've seen. Can't wait until the next two phases are finished if this is anything to go by.

5.
Dallas Zoo - River Habitat
I'm biased here as I see this exhibit every day, but I still can't ignore its greatness. About 2.5-3 acre African river exhibit. One of the most picturesque exhibits I've seen with cascading waterfalls, lush large trees, and loads of African birds. It is mostly birds but a few Waterbuck call this exhibit home. Hopefully the addition of more Waterbuck and maybe Sitatunga (and several years down the road hippos) will make this great exhibit even better.

4.
Dallas Zoo - Kimberly Clarke Chimpanzee Forest
As has been said on here numerous times this is one of the best Chimpanzee exhibits out there. Heavily planted, lots of climbing, and enrichment. A nice big troupe calls this exhibit home and watching the family dynamics as I have it is just fascinating to watch.

3.
Dallas Zoo - Exxon Mobil Endangered Tiger Habitat
The single largest tiger habitat in the country at 1 acre. Houses both Sumatran and Malayan tigers. The fact that there are at least 5 viewing areas to see the tigers from is a great bonus. Playing find the tiger is fun and frustrating. Whenever I have a hard time finding the animal because it blends in so well and is hiding I know that I am looking at a great exhibit.

2.
Dallas Zoo - Jake L. Hammon Gorilla Conservation and Research Station
From what I've seen of photos on here this may be the only Gorilla exhibit around that can rival Congo Gorilla Forest. I know that may sound like I am stepping on the toes of a sacred cow, but I truly believe it. Two big areas for two troupes of Gorillas total 2 acres. As I said earlier when you can't find the animals it is all the more appealing and here is the best example I know. Unlike every other naturalistic Gorilla exhibit I've seen on here, NO plants are hot-wired. The Gorillas have access to every single plant in the enclosure and from looking at how dense it is, you couldn't tell. True there are only 4 Gorillas here, but the lack of numbers doesn't take away from the greatness of the exhibit. The addition of the Research Station, a large building with glass lookouts all around the building make this one of the best exhibits I've ever seen. Add on top of this the fact that there are at least 5 viewing platforms and 2 viewing bunkers along the Nature Trail to see the Gorillas from it is incredible.

1.
Caldwell Zoo - East Africa
It will come as no surprise to anyone following this thread that I am in love with the East Africa exhibit at the Caldwell Zoo. When I first saw this exhibit one of those silly school child grins came across my face as if I just found out that it was field trip day and we all got free ice cream. In one straight view you can see lions, antelope, giraffes, elephants, zebras, and birds. It is really 3/4 exhibits but as it is designed, it all merges into one. The use of invisible moats to separate the exhibits is brilliant. When I can see a lion and a zebra in the same field of view and not know that they are in a zoo and separated from each other that is the sign of a great exhibit. Looking at this you honestly can get the feeling that you are in Africa.

Here's the run down of zoos with great exhibits.
Dallas - 4
Caldwell - 3
San Antonio - 1
Houston - 1
Cameron Park 1

I'm sure that there will be some debate on here as to my rankings, but I stand by them. There might be some wiggle room swapping some of the ranking of 5-10, but I like this list.
 
Wonderful reviews and analysis of the top Texas zoos! A truly great ZooChat thread, and as I have pointed out many times I've always enjoyed reading through the reviews and funny passages in the zoo reports. One small quibble: you mention that the Dallas Zoo has the largest tiger exhibit in the country (1 acre) but the Minnesota Zoo is often credited with that fact. Also, the Bronx Zoo has the 3-acre Tiger Mountain complex, and I'm pretty sure that Minnesota and Bronx are the top two zoos for tiger exhibits in terms of both size and quality.
 
It seems i stand corrected. I got my information from one of the high ups in the zoo so I took his word on it. Maybe it was that way at the time it was built. Having never seen Minnesota of Bronx I can't comment on their quality, but you do have be curious to go look at their pictures.
 
I think Giants of the Savanna might be #1 once it opens. The Africa Forest in Houston also looks promising, as does Africa Live! phases 2 and 3. The future of Texas Zoos is a bright one.
 
The Jewel of Central Texas

I went to the Cameron Park Zoo in Waco again today and finally got to see their new Mysteries of the Asian Forest exhibit for the first time. It opened up a month ago and I've been excited to see it ever since. I will give a brief overview of the new exhibit as well as some updates since the last time I went.

Mysteries of the Asian Forest
This is the new exhibit for Orang-utans and Komodo Dragons. This is by far the biggest Orang exhibit I've seen. They only have 3 animals here right now 1.1 Borneans and 1.0 hybrid. Obviously with any new exhibit you will need to give it time to "grow in" and no doubt it will look a lot better in a few years when some of the trees get bigger. Most of the climbing here is tree climbing with a few rope swings and bridges. When I went only 1 male was out on exhibit and 1 was in an indoor holding area visible to the public. I don't know where the other one was, presumably indoors as well. As far as the design goes it was kind of odd. The whole orang enclosure is shaped like a doughnut with an area in the center not accessible to anyone but keepers. For the life of me I cannot figure out why this area exists. The whole area is netted with the exception of the wall of viewing windows near the holding building. The Komodo Dragon area was basically a "temple" themed area. Completely wrong for a Komodo Dragon, but somewhat tastefully done. In fact the whole temple theme of the area was not over done and mostly consisted of a few half-buried statue faces. My only complaint is that the area looked Thai and not Indonesian. There was a little playground here too with a jungle gym made exactly like one the Orangs would use. Cool concept.

Other new stuff
New elephant. The elephant exhibit had two animals out today. Still a great exhibit
Gerenuks. I had though that the zoo had Gerenuks, but on my last two visits I had never seen them. They were in the exhibit with the Giraffes, Greater Kudu, and birds. 1.3 on exhibit and the mix seemed to work great.
Mountain Lion on exhibit. Bigger exhibit that I remembered, but still pretty small.
2 Jaguars out. Still very small exhibit with no hiding spots.

Looks like a great zoo got better. Funny thing about Cameron Park Zoo is the amount of unused space available. The whole middle of the zoo is nothing but a dense forest. I would say only about 1/2 of the zoo is actually developed. I see a lot of great thing in the future here.
 
Very nice thread which we all enjoyed. Much thanks.

Speaking of tiger exhibits, it seems like the old 1970's-era one at San Diego Wild Animal Park is about the same size as Dallas.
 
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