Long-overdue Species

The first animal that came to my mind is cougar. They don't keep them in any major czech zoo and I refuse to visit most of the small private zoos here, so it is kind of my own fault.
I also believe I've never seen a skunk in my life, which is a shame! Again the same problem with private zoos. They have skunks in Brno and Plzeň too, I'm probably just unlucky.
 
Several species I have never seen in captivity but very much want to:

Asiatic black bear: The only bear species I have not seen in person. In the AZA, they are a phase-out species, and the few remaining holders seem pretty scattered throughout the country and not in regions that I commonly, if ever, visit. However, to my excitement this species hopefully won’t be on my list for much longer as I have plans in just a few weeks to visit the Wild Animal Sanctuary near Denver, which holds several specimens of U. thibetanus that were rescued from abusive circumstances (with said visit being primarily motivated by hoping to finally see this species!).

Giant otter:
This species seems to be present in a decent amount of AZA zoos, however what’s inconvenient for me is that barring Philadelphia and Roger Williams Park, they’re all in the southern tier, be it Miami, Houston, or Los Angeles. Hopefully I will get to visit one of the aforementioned facilities someday or another that holds these incredible mustelids.

Striped hyena: This another AZA phase-out (if I’m not mistaken) and it is consequently found in few of their zoos, although it does seem to have a decent presence in private collections. Hoping to make it to a Facility like The Living Desert or Fort Worth Zoo to finally see striped hyenas.

Muskox: As you likely know, this species has an extremely limited captive presence in the US, with the only facility in the Lower 48 now holding them being Port Defiance (although Minnesota Zoo, which is located just a few states over from me, did until a few years ago). If I can’t make it to Tacoma, I’ll have to go up to Canada or Alaska to see this species (which would be fun to do anyways!).

Tammar wallaby & yellow-footed rock wallaby: Both of these wallabies, especially the tammar, seem to have a decent amount of AZA zoos keeping them, yet I’ve never seen either in-person. Guess I’ll just have to keep visiting more zoos, especially in parts of the country I haven’t explored as much.
I’ve seen some fairly rare animals given on this thread before, so figured there was no harm in me doing the same. And I think species can be “overdue” in another sense, like Asian black bear being the only ursid I haven’t seen.
Fully agree regarding the black bears, but I also struggle to see how the musk ox and hyenas qualify especially when a good portion of your description is denoting how rare they are in captivity. ;)
 
Fully agree regarding the black bears, but I also struggle to see how the musk ox and hyenas qualify especially when a good portion of your description is denoting how rare they are in captivity. ;)
I’ll take the L, but I’ll point out that I’m not the first commenter in this thread who has given rare animals, including the muskox specifically in at least one case.
 
I’ll take the L, but I’ll point out that I’m not the first commenter in this thread who has given rare animals, including the muskox specifically in at least one case.
If we're going to pick on this, @Austin the Sengi's post was only around two hours before yours so I saw them at the same time.

I wasn't planning to personally comment on either of your posts until your and @Great Argus conversation on the intent of the thread, and I thought at that point it would help defuse the conversation to return to @Kalaw 's first post, which I thought was clear.

With hindsight, perhaps I escalated the sitiation by appearing to "dogpile" you, but I thought I was helping de-escalate and clarify.
 
I never have good luck with big cats whatsoever (perhaps contributing to my general..... not distaste, but underwhelm, i guess? whelm. they whelm me.) but I really can't recall ever seeing a male lion. Lionesses plenty but I'm not sure I've ever seen a lion, at least not terribly well and nigh certainly asleep.
 
Today, I saw a Sand Tiger Shark for the first time at Kansas City Zoo and Aquarium. Though one of the more common large shark species in aquaria with thirty holders in the US, this was my first time. They are awesome and I love them even more in person!
I'm honestly surprised there are only 30 US holders, I would have thought there surely would have been more!!
 
Today, I saw a Sand Tiger Shark for the first time at Kansas City Zoo and Aquarium. Though one of the more common large shark species in aquaria with thirty holders in the US, this was my first time. They are awesome and I love them even more in person!

Maybe not the proper thread to ask this, but how did you enjoy Kansas City Zoo and Aquarium? I've long thought it's a little underrated on Zoochat. Sobela might have the best species lineup of any zoo-aquarium hybrid in America.
 
Let’s see, most of the overdue species I have listed are mainly captive mammals. Although, there are a few other non-mammalian species that are personally “needed” (yet even that’s a bit of a stretch).

By far, there are a few notable carnivorans which, somehow, I keep missing out on:
  • Asiatic Black Bear - the last bear species that I haven’t seen in person (for context, I’ve been lucky with the remaining seven).
  • Maned Wolf - a species I was really looking forward to seeing at the San Diego Zoo; but alas, I’ll have to look elsewhere.
  • Bat-Eared Fox - my most sought-after canid at the moment; who, for whatever reason, I keep missing due to their nocturnal nature.
  • Bush Dog - my other sought-after canid, and my second favorite species overall (first being the dhole, which I have seen :)). A true South American staple in my books, and a unique looking canine all the same!
Now as far as ungulates go (both even-toed & odd-toed), I don’t have too many that are exactly overdue (aside from the usual rarities). However, it would be hard to miss that I would love to see the following two species at some point; with both of them being bovids funnily enough:
  • Aoudad - a safari park-staple that I haven’t seen whatsoever. It would be nice to at least see them in a drive-through safari or two at some point though!
  • Musk Ox - a true Arctic icon, and a real rarity at that. However, while I have been lucky enough to have seen mounted specimens at a few museums and outdoor retail stores. Seeing them in person, whether at the Point Defiance Zoo or any facility in Alaska would be a dream come true.
Finally, for my remaining overdue mammals, I’m turning to the superorder Euarchontoglires, for which there are a few that have long evaded me:
  • Sumatran Orangutan - Despite being decently common in zoos, I have so far missed them at four different places; and every time I do see an orangutan, they’re always a Bornean!
  • Fat-Tailed Dwarf Lemur - Back before the Bronx Zoo became a holder, the only place where I tried to see this species was the Duke Lemur Center. Unfortunately, between the two times I visited the center; the nocturnal building where the lemurs were held was closed on my first visit. On my second visit, however, the building was open; yet, due to the presence of some researchers at the time, they remained a no-show. Safe to say, I do hope that a third visit to Duke or possibly, a return trip to the Bronx will finally give me the chance of seeing them in person!
  • Night Monkeys / Aotus (any species) - An entire family of primates that I haven’t had the fortune of seeing! Hopefully, I’ll run into a representative species in a zoo somewhere… one day, someday.
  • Rhesus Macaque - Even after attempting to see them as an invasive species in my home state (which ultimately failed). I have still not managed to see this rather infamous species anywhere else.
  • Potto - A rather neat prosimian that’s currently down to four holders in the United States alone! Hopefully, a visit to any one of those facilities will be all the worth while.
  • Northern Luzon Giant Cloud Rat - By far, despite having visited two facilities that have held the species. These panda-like buggers continue to remain as my biggest “white-whale” as far as rodents are concerned!
  • Lowland Paca - A personal favorite; like the bush dog, this is another signature mammal from South America that I haven’t had the chance to see.
  • Hares / Lepus (any species) - Whether in the wild or in captivity, I have not been the most fortunate with seeing any representative of this genus of lagomorph.
  • Sunda Colugo - Until I ever find myself in Southeast Asia, this is the most rarity-oriented of the overdue species listed so far. Therefore, the colugos in general are the last order of mammals from this superorder that I have yet to see.
Moving on from the mammals, the majority of overdue birds are species that I would prefer to find in the wild. However, I do have a few captive species that I keep missing out on as far as the first two go:
  • Golden Eagle (A. c. canadensis, specifically) - For whatever reason, despite being an extremely common raptor throughout the Northern Hemisphere (which shows for how many holders there are). I, for whatever reason, have never seen this famous species of eagle. Nothing that finding them in the wild, or perhaps, at the odd zoo or nature center can’t solve!
  • Kagu - Like the cloud rats, these birds continue to remain as a personal “white-whale”; and like the maned wolves, they were a species that I was looking forward to see at the San Diego Zoo.
  • Common / Ring-Necked Pheasant - Even though I have long been enamored by this species from a hunting perspective (in addition to having several feathers gifted from a friend). This species will certainly be a pleasure to see (and eat!) as an introduced species in the Great Plains; and if not there, a more obscure zoological facility elsewhere in the states.
Wrapping up this post with the reptiles, I suppose that an overdue species might be the Common Snapping Turtle, as well as a few venomous snakes as far as native species go. Otherwise, there’s not too much else to add besides the usual rarities and the majority of crocodilians (with the Black Caiman being the most noteworthy).

With that being said, it will be interesting to see as for how lucky I will be with several of the listed species in a few years time. Until then, I’ll just leave it off here.
Since my initial reply, I’ve never thought I would be able to see a night monkey, ring-necked pheasant, and (most importantly) a Bat-Eared Fox as soon as I did!

Now, in place of those animals, here are four more overdue species of mine that are worth mentioning:
  • Round-Eared Sengi - you knew this first one’s pretty obvious; yet, for as decently common as they are in Europe, not a single individual exists on my side of the pond.
  • Mountain Tapir* - for this next species, it’s not so because of their rarity (like the colugo was); but rather for being the last living species of tapir that I haven’t seen in person. Hopefully, the tapirs in LA and Cheyenne Mountain will live long enough for a once in a lifetime encounter.
  • Cuban Hutia - after the disappointment that was having to miss them in Paris’ Jardin des Plantes. I’ll remain optimistic that I’ll run into one in another European zoo whenever I end up doing so.
  • Olive Baboon - like the Rhesus Macaque, this is yet another example of a species being more-so present in non-accredited facilities over those who are accredited; not much else to say there.
Now to summarize, in between these new additions and the species that I mentioned last time. I hope that this next turnaround will be somewhat different as far as having seen the majority of my listed species.

*replaces the colugo
 
Olive Baboon - like the Rhesus Macaque, this is yet another example of a species being more-so present in non-accredited facilities over those who are accredited; not much else to say there.
I love those animals, ever since I saw one in an African animal book when I was around 7. It is a pity that they are not more prevalent in US zoos. Fortunately they are at Wildlife World in Arizona, and I make it there once a year or so.
 
I love those animals, ever since I saw one in an African animal book when I was around 7. It is a pity that they are not more prevalent in US zoos. Fortunately they are at Wildlife World in Arizona, and I make it there once a year or so.
I saw them for the first time recently at Catoctin, and had expected them to just be a smaller, less ornate Hamadryas baboon. Couldn't have been more wrong. The big males were impressive.
 
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I have never seen a capybara in my entire life.

This was the case for me until just a few weeks ago when I saw one at Brookfield. I was chuffed! They're a relatively """trendy""" animal I feel like, has a decent bit of mainstream recognition, and they seem relatively easy to keep. I was surprised it had taken me so long.
 
While not overly common in the US, I’ve yet to see a chimpanzee it seems they are everywhere but the northeast, besides Southwicks.
 
I'm honestly surprised there are only 30 US holders, I would have thought there surely would have been more!!
Me too. I swore I had at least once heard someone say they were the most common shark in captivity, but it seems Sandbar, Blacktip reef, Leopard, Zebra and even Horn sharks beat them out now. The Sandbar/Blacktip/Zebra combination seems to be the go-to for large coral reefs these days, being the combination at the Shedd, Toledo, Omaha, Sea Life and more. I think this is part of why finally seeing them was so exciting to me - they immediately stick out visually from the other captive species.

Maybe not the proper thread to ask this, but how did you enjoy Kansas City Zoo and Aquarium? I've long thought it's a little underrated on Zoochat. Sobela might have the best species lineup of any zoo-aquarium hybrid in America.
I'm hoping to do a longer review in the near future (which knowing me, will be around 2027) but I really loved it there! It's probably my second favorite US facility so far and I'm surprised I don't see a lot of discussion for it. Sobela was a highlight and I really enjoyed it. I really liked Omaha's in-zoo aquarium as well and it'd be hard to pick between them for me. I love a good underwater tunnel, no matter how basic it may be, but the multiple vantage points at Sobela are really cool. I probably overlooked some of the fish as I often do but I did spot a couple new ones, like what might be my first or second flounder and unexpected short-tailed nurse sharks, and had some of the best eel sightings I've had at any facilities.

KC also helped me with a lot of debatably 'overdue' species - blue monkey, blue duiker, lesser kudu, black crested mangabey, secretary bird were all species I'd missed previously at other facilities but finally saw here.
 
Me too. I swore I had at least once heard someone say they were the most common shark in captivity, but it seems Sandbar, Blacktip reef, Leopard, Zebra and even Horn sharks beat them out now. The Sandbar/Blacktip/Zebra combination seems to be the go-to for large coral reefs these days, being the combination at the Shedd, Toledo, Omaha, Sea Life and more. I think this is part of why finally seeing them was so exciting to me - they immediately stick out visually from the other captive species.
Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen Sand Tigers in a coral reef themed exhibit here in Australia (where they are more commonly called Grey Nurse Sharks) - the species seems to always be kept in temperate/subtropical tanks with local species like Short-tailed Stingray, Southern Eagle Ray, Port Jackson Shark, and bony fish typically considered gamefish like Pink Snapper, Black Bream and Australian Salmon. Zebra, Whitetip Reef, Grey Reef and Blacktip Reef sharks are the go-to for coral reef themed shark tanks.
 
Me too. I swore I had at least once heard someone say they were the most common shark in captivity, but it seems Sandbar, Blacktip reef, Leopard, Zebra and even Horn sharks beat them out now.

The bamboo sharks, Epaulette Shark, and Nurse Shark as well. With the rise of smaller aquariums like Sealife the smaller species have become all the more prevalent. Many of the carpet shark family have always been prevalent in captivity though as they do not have to swim to breathe, unlike the Sand Tiger (and the Sandbar and Blacktip Reef). The Sand Tiger does remain the largest widely kept shark however.
 
Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen Sand Tigers in a coral reef themed exhibit here in Australia (where they are more commonly called Grey Nurse Sharks) - the species seems to always be kept in temperate/subtropical tanks with local species like Short-tailed Stingray, Southern Eagle Ray, Port Jackson Shark, and bony fish typically considered gamefish like Pink Snapper, Black Bream and Australian Salmon. Zebra, Whitetip Reef, Grey Reef and Blacktip Reef sharks are the go-to for coral reef themed shark tanks.
Very interesting observation. I wonder if the focus on coral reefs in public aquaria is a contributing factor in seeing less Sand tigers?

The bamboo sharks, Epaulette Shark, and Nurse Shark as well. With the rise of smaller aquariums like Sealife the smaller species have become all the more prevalent. Many of the carpet shark family have always been prevalent in captivity though as they do not have to swim to breathe, unlike the Sand Tiger (and the Sandbar and Blacktip Reef). The Sand Tiger does remain the largest widely kept shark however.
I meant to say something about not including bamboo sharks but I definitely forgot to include nurse sharks in that number. Very good point about size.

I wonder what the largest non-whale shark in captivity it is?
 
Very interesting observation. I wonder if the focus on coral reefs in public aquaria is a contributing factor in seeing less Sand tigers?
@DaLilFishie I've actually seen them in an exhibit replicating a coral reef, at the Florida Aquarium in Tampa. Honestly, this discussion is a tad amusing for an extremely aquarium-specific nerd like me, as the overabundance of sand tigers and sandbar sharks as the only large free-swimming (i.e. non-nurse or zebra) sharks exhibited in a particular aquarium drives me kind of loopy sometimes lol. I do love them as much as any other shark, but quite frankly 30 holders in the US seems like enough for me. I honestly wish that newer facilities with no long-term establishment of the species' care would try something different from the start or phase them out like Georgia recently did, in favor of lesser-studied species that could also use those resources and potentially be aided by breeding programs.
I wonder what the largest non-whale shark in captivity it is?
My best educated guess would be that it's currently either a particularly large sand tiger, of which I've seen a few (SeaWorld San Diego used to have one that was pretty easily 9-10 feet at my best estimate), or quite possibly one that you guys might not expect, that being...a lemon shark! They can actually get really big, 12.1 feet at maximum, and Citrus, also of SeaWorld San Diego, is a particularly massive example who's I believe around 10 feet long as of now. I do know that Georgia Aquarium's large female tiger shark was 9 feet long when I dove with her in 2022, and they also have had a great hammerhead in the past that was approaching 11 feet per a source I had there, but that individual passed away prior to their reacquisition of the species in 2020. I will say, either that tiger at Georgia or another at a different facility will almost certainly take the crown someday soon, given that they have a near 20-foot maximum size that would be larger than any other regularly exhibited species. They'd only really be limited by the size of their tank and the amount that they're fed - and GA's tank is 1 million gallons. Great hammerheads can also approach that length but it's rarer.
 
@DaLilFishie I do love them as much as any other shark, but quite frankly 30 holders in the US seems like enough for me. I honestly wish that newer facilities with no long-term establishment of the species' care would try something different from the start or phase them out like Georgia recently did, in favor of lesser-studied species that could also use those resources and potentially be aided by breeding programs.
Yeah, I wasn't saying I think there should be more facilites keeping Sand Tigers, just that the number that actually do in the US is lower than I would have thought. Your comment about Sandbars being too common is interesting to me, they're not terribly common in Australian aquariums (not awfully rare either, there are a few around, but not enough that I would consider them commonly kept).
 
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