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To be fair, the elephants needed a new exhibit as this size.

~Thylo
True, though I do wish they went with a more naturalistic approach in terms of the surrounding pathwayd and the "cinematography" of the exhibit rather than a fenced yard with some admittedly really nice rockwork.
 
True, though I do wish they went with a more naturalistic approach in terms of the surrounding pathwayd and the "cinematography" of the exhibit rather than a fenced yard with some admittedly really nice rockwork.
Honestly looking at the current plans we might get some change near the viewing facility next to the Amazon exhibit and less metal wiring around the exhibit but that will be it. They will actually get rid of some of the cage paths which will help but only a little bit.
 
You're right in both points. However: It will not change when more zoos switch to Southern Whites, even when they had good keeping (and sometimes also breeding) results with Black Rhinos.
And who else if not big/experienced zoos with necessary financial power should care about a rhino species that is a little difficult to handle? (Beside that: Who said that good Black Rhino exhibits must be mixed savanna exhibits? There can be good once with any other species and you can still have a good "Africa" theming as zoos like Hannover, Honolulu or Caldwell demonstrate).

i think u mean white rhino. The only zoo that has their black rhinos mixed in with other animals is the San Diego Zoo Safari Park
 
@John Marchwick I'm sure you mean the only zoo in the United States that has black rhinos in with other species (and even then I would have to do my research) I know Saint Louis has them in with sacred ibises and Zoo Atlanta for years had less of a mixed-species environment and more of a "panorama" with black rhinos in the foreground and zebra, ostrich, giraffe, gazelle, kori bustard and waterfowl in the background. It wouldn't be impossible to exhibit black rhinos with other species, but it would certainly be challenging. Even zoos with white rhinos have difficulty cohabitating with animals like giraffes (Fresno Chaffee and Omaha certainly come to mind, as in the former the giraffes AFAIK only have access to a side savannah rather than the main one, and in the latter, vice versa). At the end of the day, it's all about individual animals' personalities and whether or not there are good protocols, shifting capabilities and willing management/personnel that are willing to undergo such an endeavor.

And now, back to the news.
 
@John Marchwick I'm sure you mean the only zoo in the United States that has black rhinos in with other species (and even then I would have to do my research) I know Saint Louis has them in with sacred ibises and Zoo Atlanta for years had less of a mixed-species environment and more of a "panorama" with black rhinos in the foreground and zebra, ostrich, giraffe, gazelle, kori bustard and waterfowl in the background. It wouldn't be impossible to exhibit black rhinos with other species, but it would certainly be challenging. Even zoos with white rhinos have difficulty cohabitating with animals like giraffes (Fresno Chaffee and Omaha certainly come to mind, as in the former the giraffes AFAIK only have access to a side savannah rather than the main one, and in the latter, vice versa). At the end of the day, it's all about individual animals' personalities and whether or not there are good protocols, shifting capabilities and willing management/personnel that are willing to undergo such an endeavor.

And now, back to the news.

yes I was referencing the United States. However the safari park has both white rhinos and black rhinos living with and coexisting with giraffes in the same exact space. I find it totally bizarre how others zoos haven’t been able to do this successfully. It seems strange to me
 
yes I was referencing the United States. However the safari park has both white rhinos and black rhinos living with and coexisting with giraffes in the same exact space. I find it totally bizarre how others zoos haven’t been able to do this successfully. It seems strange to me

San Diego ZSP has a nearly 65acre enclosure, there's plenty of space for all of the animals to separate from each other if they want to. 65acres of savanna isn't something that can be replicated in 99% of zoos.

~Thylo
 
Also with the Houston Zoo they recently put their golden lion tamarins with their black howler monkey’s. Do you think the Los Ángeles Zoo should try this and do this mixed species habitat with their golden lion tamarins and their black howler monkey?
 
Also with the Houston Zoo they recently put their golden lion tamarins with their black howler monkey’s. Do you think the Los Ángeles Zoo should try this and do this mixed species habitat with their golden lion tamarins and their black howler monkey?

The howler enclosure is not particularly large, so I'd think that adding tamarins could cause undue crowding.

Does LA have golden lion tamarins? I don't remember them at the moment, but if they do they would probably be in one of the roundhouses, in which case ditto.
 
The howler enclosure is not particularly large, so I'd think that adding tamarins could cause undue crowding.

Does LA have golden lion tamarins? I don't remember them at the moment, but if they do they would probably be in one of the roundhouses, in which case ditto.
They do indeed have Golden Lion tamarins, they have them in the children’s zoo last I was there a few weeks ago and I wish they could mix them with the tapirs in the Rainforest of the Americas. The little island in the tapir exhibit was made for cotton tops so I’d imagine that the golden lions would do well there but am not sure completely :oops:
 
They do indeed have Golden Lion tamarins, they have them in the children’s zoo last I was there a few weeks ago and I wish they could mix them with the tapirs in the Rainforest of the Americas. The little island in the tapir exhibit was made for cotton tops so I’d imagine that the golden lions would do well there but am not sure completely :oops:

Ah, in the row of glass-fronted enclosures of the animal hospital right? I routinely forget about that building and its inhabitants :p

Considering the cottontops have been gone a long time and not replaced, I think it's safer to assume that the little island would *not* suit more tamarins well. In any case, I never saw a cottontop when they lived there so I question the visibility also.
 
Ah, in the row of glass-fronted enclosures of the animal hospital right? I routinely forget about that building and its inhabitants :p

Considering the cottontops have been gone a long time and not replaced, I think it's safer to assume that the little island would *not* suit more tamarins well. In any case, I never saw a cottontop when they lived there so I question the visibility also.
They have some jewels and cute animals in that section often haha It would definitely need a renovation to the island if they were to display tamarins or any other primates there for sure. They have wooden climbing structures and the trees finally sprouted that were planted years ago. At minimum, I’d say that some of the foliage would need to be trimmed, have a couple of tamarins based on its size, and shade on top since it’s very exposed. I often see the tapirs take naps on the island :D
 
On the topic of South American primates in the zoo what is happening with the red uakari? are they going to get an actual exhibit with proper viewing, will they join the ssp or are they already a part of it?
 
On the topic of South American primates in the zoo what is happening with the red uakari? are they going to get an actual exhibit with proper viewing, will they join the ssp or are they already a part of it?

There was only one left last time I was at the zoo earlier this year. She is an elderly female and the last one in the United States.
 
There was only one left last time I was at the zoo earlier this year. She is an elderly female and the last one in the United States.
Well that means we probably won't get any back, also I checked the vision plan to see if I could find the ukari (They didn't list the existing animal exhibits so there is nothing definite) and I found that they will actually be building a new exhibit with golden lion, cotton headed, and emperor tamarins
 
Well that means we probably won't get any back, also I checked the vision plan to see if I could find the ukari (They didn't list the existing animal exhibits so there is nothing definite) and I found that they will actually be building a new exhibit with golden lion, cotton headed, and emperor tamarins

Keep in mind that the vision plan is not a concrete list of what might happen years from now. If a new curator or director decided at some point that they wanted to start a new red uakari program and it was feasible, that might happen. Conversely the zoo could decide that it does not want to build a tamarin exhibit when they get to the renovation of the South America exhibit years down the road.
 
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