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The orangutan house was specifically preserved as a heritage exhibit. The Hancocks masterplan had the main parade down to the elephant sculpture as a Victorian garden precinct, with the orang house included, tying the Zoo to it's past.

I think to modify it for a small mammal would mean that any sense of what for or how the exhibit was used, and what it must have meant to be an orangutan in it. Of course if your zoo is full of heritage exhibits then such modifications are essential. One such zoo is Jardin de Plantes in Paris. I remember two small bear pits converted for binturongs and red pandas. They were adequate for that purpose, but visitors had no sense of their original role for bears.

It’s a problem many century old zoos seem to face and a few solutions to repurposing are relatively universal. Many zoos have repurposed their elephant houses as restaurants or cafes or used them for zoo sleepovers. Open air bear pits are usually refurbished with vegetation to soften the concrete and house small mammals like porcupine, meerkats and red pandas. Wellington Zoo’s snow leopard exhibit began life as three bear exhibits in the early 20th century, with two of them combined refurbished for a sun bear exhibit in 1992 (and the third comprising the maternity annex).

What you described sounded like a reasonable use for the Orangutan House. In the whole scheme of things, the exhibit takes up minimal space whatever the future holds for it and it’s a fascinating insight into a zoo most of us would otherwise only know from the history books. Zoos have evolved beyond recognition over the past few decades and structures like this emphasis that.
 
There's two cages that sit beside the main drive. One is obviously the former Orangutan/Mandrill house and the other the former Monkey house. They're located on the left and right of the trail of the elephants exit; but the one on the right isn't visible (surrounded by vegetation).
I had heard them referred to as Orang'utan and Monkey houses. I wasn't sure if also referred to as Mandrill House or if there was a third I was unaware of. Thanks
 
I had heard them referred to as Orang'utan and Monkey houses. I wasn't sure if also referred to as Mandrill House or if there was a third I was unaware of. Thanks

To add further confusion, the Mandrill is the world’s largest monkey; so if the Orangutan House is also known as the Mandrill House, then it could also be called a Monkey House. :p Monkey House 1&2!
 
do you know what happened to the zebras? I visited a few weeks ago and they were all missing
Zebras are no longer held at the facility, I’m not entirely sure where they were transferred too however. I assume this is due to the imminent arrival of a baby giraffe, and the zebras would likely cause conflict with it. It is presumed they may be replaced with Nyala from WORZ
 
Zebras are no longer held at the facility, I’m not entirely sure where they were transferred too however. I assume this is due to the imminent arrival of a baby giraffe, and the zebras would likely cause conflict with it. It is presumed they may be replaced with Nyala from WORZ

Melbourne’s zebra were transferred to Werribee Open Range Zoo. We now know the reason was due to arrival of Nakuru’s calf, which should be within the next month or so; but it’ll also allow for the introduction of nyala into the paddock if desired.
 
If I visit in the next couple weeks, are there any questions you’d like me to ask

Thanks for offering, I do have a few questions:

Melbourne Zoo Questions

1. Where did Squid (otter) go? She left the zoo earlier this year, but we never found out what facility she went to.

2. Any Hamadryas baboon pregnancies (or infants)?

3. They mentioned Chad (new male baboon from Perth) would be the breeding male. Does that mean the other males are vasectomised to ensure only Chad sires infants?

4. Are Melbourne still planning to breed their snow leopards in the next year? I.e. has a breeding recommendation been given?

5. Has a reason been determined for Kimya’s (gorilla) apparent infertility? Are there any imminent plans to import more females?

6. What will be going in the vacant mandrill/cassowary exhibit?

7. What are Melbourne’s plans for the future of the orangutan colony? We’re assuming the import of a Sumatran female after the expansion is complete, but an indication either way would be nice.

8. Does Melbourne have any interest in acquiring Sri Lankan leopard?

We’ve speculated as to the answers to a few of these questions, but information direct from the zoo would be helpful. Some will be more clear cut than others e.g. Squid went to X zoo; others (especially future plans), you may receive more ambiguous responses. Anything you can find out would be much appreciated!
 
I had heard them referred to as Orang'utan and Monkey houses. I wasn't sure if also referred to as Mandrill House or if there was a third I was unaware of. Thanks
It is interesting how over time they got those names. Firstly "house" in zoo terms implies a building visitors can enter to view animals in a number of cages. These two structures are just individual cages. Secondly they were built for orangutans and for chimpanzees respectively and housed those species from the time of construction some time in the 19th Centaury till the Great Ape Grotto opened in the mid 1970's. So I imagine they were used for those species for 80 or 90 years. Then for a short time after they were used for other species. My memory has been mulling this and I seem to remember squirrel monkeys in the chimpanzee cage for a period., but don't quote me on that.
 
I had heard them referred to as Orang'utan and Monkey houses. I wasn't sure if also referred to as Mandrill House or if there was a third I was unaware of. Thanks

To add further confusion, the Mandrill is the world’s largest monkey; so if the Orangutan House is also known as the Mandrill House, then it could also be called a Monkey House. :p Monkey House 1&2!

It is interesting how over time they got those names. Firstly "house" in zoo terms implies a building visitors can enter to view animals in a number of cages. These two structures are just individual cages. Secondly they were built for orangutans and for chimpanzees respectively and housed those species from the time of construction some time in the 19th Centaury till the Great Ape Grotto opened in the mid 1970's. So I imagine they were used for those species for 80 or 90 years. Then for a short time after they were used for other species. My memory has been mulling this and I seem to remember squirrel monkeys in the chimpanzee cage for a period., but don't quote me on that.
I took a BTS Orangutan tour a few years back and the first thing they took us to was the old Orangutan cage. Melbourne certainly seems to like to use the cages to display and represent how zoos and standards for zoos have changed over time. I personally think it’s very important for visitors to be able to experience; and it’s nice to see Melbourne keeping history around.

I think it’s crazy to think that just fifty years ago Orangutans would have been living in that tiny, cramped cage!

That seems to be a trend most zoos follow ie. replacing chimps with a smaller monkey species (like Squirrel Monkeys) as housing standards change; so I wouldn’t be surprised if Melbourne did the same.
 
It is interesting how over time they got those names. Firstly "house" in zoo terms implies a building visitors can enter to view animals in a number of cages. These two structures are just individual cages. Secondly they were built for orangutans and for chimpanzees respectively and housed those species from the time of construction some time in the 19th Centaury till the Great Ape Grotto opened in the mid 1970's. So I imagine they were used for those species for 80 or 90 years. Then for a short time after they were used for other species. My memory has been mulling this and I seem to remember squirrel monkeys in the chimpanzee cage for a period., but don't quote me on that.
I took a BTS Orangutan tour a few years back and the first thing they took us to was the old Orangutan cage. Melbourne certainly seems to like to use the cages to display and represent how zoos and standards for zoos have changed over time. I personally think it’s very important for visitors to be able to experience; and it’s nice to see Melbourne keeping history around.

I think it’s crazy to think that just fifty years ago Orangutans would have been living in that tiny, cramped cage!

That seems to be a trend most zoos follow ie. replacing chimps with a smaller monkey species (like Squirrel Monkeys) as housing standards change; so I wouldn’t be surprised if Melbourne did the same.

It is indeed an example of how standards of exhibiting animals have evolved (and continue to do so). In the 1990’s, Auckland Zoo were proud of their open air chimpanzee exhibit, which was a vast improvement on the cage block not dissimilar to Melbourne’s. A decade later, this exhibit (refurbished for the use of chimpanzees in the 1980’s) was viewed as too cramped for even a small troop of chimpanzees. Wellington’s chimpanzee cage block was turned into a bird aviary.

It appears the gorillas and orangutans will have a future at Melbourne however. The Gorilla Rainforest has proved to be a complex that’s stood the test of time and they’ll be the zoo’s biggest crowd puller in the wake of the elephants leaving. The saving grace for orangutans are the innovation of aerial pathways - which offer endless potential for expanding their exhibit beyond the immediate confines of the exhibit.
 
It appears the gorillas and orangutans will have a future at Melbourne however. The Gorilla Rainforest has proved to be a complex that’s stood the test of time and they’ll be the zoo’s biggest crowd puller in the wake of the elephants leaving. The saving grace for orangutans are the innovation of aerial pathways - which offer endless potential for expanding their exhibit beyond the immediate confines of the exhibit.
It’s a real shame Melbourne aren’t making the most of the Gorilla Rainforest exhibit. It’s a state of the art exhibit that has indeed stood the test of time; and a large, engaging troop (with infants and juveniles) is definitely what it needs. It’s been over two decades now since Melbourne have had a successful breeding troop; and I feel like for this reason, the current exhibit is a shell of its former self.
 
It’s a real shame Melbourne aren’t making the most of the Gorilla Rainforest exhibit. It’s a state of the art exhibit that has indeed stood the test of time; and a large, engaging troop (with infants and juveniles) is definitely what it needs. It’s been over two decades now since Melbourne have had a successful breeding troop; and I feel like for this reason, the current exhibit is a shell of its former self.

The next couple of years will be very interesting to watch. It’s previously been believed Melbourne would acquire new female gorillas from Europe; but if Taronga decide to disband their troop, then there’s no reason Frala and Mbeli couldn’t join Otana, Kimya and Kipenzi at Melbourne. This would bolster troop numbers to 1.4 adults - including two reproductive females, one non breeder and one post reproductive female.

The days of zoos that can breed gorillas, breeding gorillas have long; but if Melbourne can accomodate the surplus males (either on site or at Werribee), then I see no reason they wouldn’t receive breeding recommendations for Mbeli and Kimya to have a couple of infants each. With Werribee’s troop ageing, they may well be deceased by the time those males are approaching dispersal age.
 
The next couple of years will be very interesting to watch. It’s previously been believed Melbourne would acquire new female gorillas from Europe; but if Taronga decide to disband their troop, then there’s no reason Frala and Mbeli couldn’t join Otana, Kimya and Kipenzi at Melbourne. This would bolster troop numbers to 1.4 adults - including two reproductive females, one non breeder and one post reproductive female.

The days of zoos that can breed gorillas, breeding gorillas have long; but if Melbourne can accomodate the surplus males (either on site or at Werribee), then I see no reason they wouldn’t receive breeding recommendations for Mbeli and Kimya to have a couple of infants each. With Werribee’s troop ageing, they may well be deceased by the time those males are approaching dispersal age.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Melbourne again receives Taronga’s remaining females and becomes the regions focus gorilla breeding facility (similar to what was done four decades ago).

Kimya would certainly appreciate additional females and being reunited with females she’s familiar with would be important for her and introductions imo.

Melbourne can’t accomodate a second troop on site; but Werribee would probably be able to accomodate any surplus bred males. In a decades time, they’d likely only have Ganyeka and Yakini (who’ll both be in their 30’s) and they could be rotated with any younger males who have formed their own troop.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if Melbourne again receives Taronga’s remaining females and becomes the regions focus gorilla breeding facility (similar to what was done four decades ago).

Kimya would certainly appreciate additional females and being reunited with females she’s familiar with would be important for her and introductions imo.

Melbourne can’t accomodate a second troop on site; but Werribee would probably be able to accomodate any surplus bred males. In a decades time, they’d likely only have Ganyeka and Yakini (who’ll both be in their 30’s) and they could be rotated with any younger males who have formed their own troop.

It would make sense for Melbourne to function as the regional breeding hub for gorillas and other facilities to hold bachelor males. I have no doubt every holder would like to breed; but cooperative breeding programmes are exactly that and it’s time to be realistic that multiple breeding troops in the region will generate more male offspring than those zoos (or others) can accomodate.

The Australasian breeding programme for gorillas (albeit an annex of the European breeding programme) is certainly atypical in that 3/5 holders are breeding facilities. The majority of species managed in the region have a higher number of non breeding facilities; and those that don’t are species where males remain in their natal troop for life (chimpanzees) or can assimilate into bachelor herds at any stage of life (gelded zebra).
 
Melbourne’s zebra were transferred to Werribee Open Range Zoo. We now know the reason was due to arrival of Nakuru’s calf, which should be within the next month or so; but it’ll also allow for the introduction of nyala into the paddock if desired.
Nyalas would be a great addition to the zoo.
 
What do you think will replace the Malayan Tapir? I personally hope that an okapi comes into the zoo, but capybaras would be cool, too.

Also, what will happen to the baby otters?
 
I visited a few weeks ago and I couldn’t find Zillie in the Great Flight Aviary, even though a sign said she had moved there.
Zillie's there; Melbourne confirmed it with me via email. She used to like hiding under the boardwalk so that may have been where she was during your visit. You can see her when you exit the GFA; going down the path towards the wombats.
 
What do you think will replace the Malayan Tapir? I personally hope that an okapi comes into the zoo, but capybaras would be cool, too.

Also, what will happen to the baby otters?
Baby otters likely to be transferred out. My prediction for the tapir replacement is the capybara, as they are charismatic and would fill the space well. Okapi will unfortunately be a few years away, as an Import Risk Analysis will have to be covered on the giraffe family, which usually takes a year or 2 afaik. Unfortunately, the Giraffe IRA is expected to be second in line, with a hippo IRA right now the priority. I do hope to see okapis at the zoo eventually however, just not for the bear future
 
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