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How many zoos have capybara right now? And where are they breeding?
Twelve facilities - Altina; Crocodylus; Currumbin; D'Aguilar Wildlife; Darling Downs Zoo; Gorge; Hunter Valley; Sydney Zoo; Taronga; Tasmania Zoo; Wildlife HQ; Wings Wildlife Park

Adelaide and Hunter Valley have previously breed them to my knowledge, but neither have in recent years. Sydney seemingly are the only facility with a breeding group at the moment.

The regions population is mostly descended from a trio imported from Los Angeles to Adelaide a decade ago.

Hunter Valley Zoo and Tasmania Zoo both bred capybara in 2020; as well as Sydney Zoo, who bred in 2020 and 2021. Adelaide Zoo have since phased out the species, following the death of their remaining female this year.

The recent breedings give me hope there’s some level of interest in maintaining them in the region (Willowbank in New Zealand also bred this year); but Auckland Zoo phased out their colony after illness wiped out multiple capybaras; and Wellington Zoo’s formerly large colony has dwindled to a small number.
 
Hunter Valley Zoo and Tasmania Zoo both bred capybara in 2020; as well as Sydney Zoo, who bred in 2020 and 2021. Adelaide Zoo have since phased out the species, following the death of their remaining female this year.

The recent breedings give me hope there’s some level of interest in maintaining them in the region (Willowbank in New Zealand also bred this year); but Auckland Zoo phased out their colony after illness wiped out multiple capybaras; and Wellington Zoo’s formerly large colony has dwindled to a small number.
I remember back in the 80s the Western Plains zoo had many Capybara in with the Tapirs and spider monkeys I was more than surprised to see they had all disappeared years later
 
I remember back in the 80s the Western Plains zoo had many Capybara in with the Tapirs and spider monkeys I was more than surprised to see they had all disappeared years later

They can potentially reach 15 years in captivity, but 6-10 years is the average lifespan and seems to have been the case for most individuals in the region. They breed readily so it seems like there’s a small number of breeding facilities that in turn supply a larger number of non-breeding holders. Consequently, there’s a limited founder base (like the current porcupine, otter and wild dog populations) and sustaining the population is dependent on more imports.

I’d suggest the solution is for more zoos to import (and breed). They can cohabit with multiple species, so it’s not like finding room for them is difficult compared to other species.
 
They can potentially reach 15 years in captivity, but 6-10 years is the average lifespan and seems to have been the case for most individuals in the region. They breed readily so it seems like there’s a small number of breeding facilities that in turn supply a larger number of non-breeding holders. Consequently, there’s a limited founder base (like the current porcupine, otter and wild dog populations) and sustaining the population is dependent on more imports.

I’d suggest the solution is for more zoos to import (and breed). They can cohabit with multiple species, so it’s not like finding room for them is difficult compared to other species.

What about Patagonian Mara? I assume they are on the phase out
 
What about Patagonian Mara? I assume they are on the phase out

I’d definitely say so. Only Adelaide, Gorge and Hunter Valley hold them now and between the three of them, there’s only around 10 mara. Adelaide hold a small bachelor group of males and I’m not aware of the other two facilities currently breeding. The entire popular descends from 2.2 mara imported in 2012 by Melbourne Zoo.

Patagonian mara have previously been housed and bred at Auckland Zoo, but no New Zealand facilities have held them since 2008.
 
I’d definitely say so. Only Adelaide, Gorge and Hunter Valley hold them now and between the three of them, there’s only around 10 mara. Adelaide hold a small bachelor group of males and I’m not aware of the other two facilities currently breeding. The entire popular descends from 2.2 mara imported in 2012 by Melbourne Zoo.

Patagonian mara have previously been housed and bred at Auckland Zoo, but no New Zealand facilities have held them since 2008.
Are you sure there are still around 10 mara in Australia? Hunter Valley only has one as of my visit in January.
 
Are you sure there are still around 10 mara in Australia? Hunter Valley only has one as of my visit in January.

No, I’m not sure. There were 14 in 2020, so I assumed with no breeding and others dying we’d be down to about 10. It could well be much less. Adelaide claim to have five males, but I suspect that’s similarly outdated info.
 
Melbourne Zoo visit/updates/review

Had my visit to Melbourne zoo today unfortunately I didn't get many questions answered the only questions I did get answered have probably been heard and posted here before

  • I asked about the breeding plans for snow leopards the only answer I got was hopefully in the near future.
  • I asked about the future plans to import a female sumatran orangutan during the encounter and have been told that they're looking for a suitable mate but they need to have space as well obviously, I never got to ask about a potential expansion as everyone else had questions and before I could ask the tour ended but I can only imagine its on the cards if space is what's holding them back from importing a female.
On that note the orangutan experience was amazing i witnessed the siamang gibbons having a feed on top of the viewing deck which was a unique view we then went downstairs to see gabi the hybrid orangutan having a training session it was fascinating to learn her story and see her work out how to get nuts into her exhibit with the use of a stick and being just a metre or so away from one of these great apes was humbling.

  • In addition to the info I got from asking I at least found out that the two siamangs in the orangutan sanctuary don't have breeding recommendations just yet due to being represented quite a bit regionally but they'll hopefully get one soon.

The visit overall was great it's improved a lot since my last visit in 2017 which was already great. I think the leopard Ridge which wasn't there last time certainly helps.

The snow leopards were quite active as i made my way to their exhibit as soon as i walked through the gates and spent about 15 minutes marvelling as female mishka ate her brekkie right at the viewing window with no one even passing by in the first 10 minutes. Kang Ju was also hanging around the glass for a little bit when he was first let into his enclosure which according to the volunteer I was talking with he doesn't usually do.

The three Collared peccaries were roaming even going pretty close to the fence seemingly investigating me while vocalising which I have to say wasn't what I expected to hear from them quite a bit different from your domestic pig their inevitable phase out will undoubtedly be a loss to the zoo or at least the zoochat Australian community as it seems many of the other visitors took the ****** pigs for granted and walked away after a 10 second glance.

I visited the elephant herd several times throughout the day and it was amazing seeing the 3 calves playing with each other and getting up to all sorts of antics by midday the females with calves moved into the third exhibit with luk chai then being let into the second one to explore while also eating I even witnessed him rear up on his hind legs to reach for branches off a tree which was insane.

The former zebra exhibit is now available for the giraffes to access but I'm sure this was already noted. The former tapir enclosure appeared to have some ladders and buckets in with the pool drained hopefully Reno's that'll be done soon for the nyala.

Only one colobus was viewable in the treetop primates hopefully one was just hiding it would be a shame If we lost another one or eventually the species from Melbourne.

Felix made use of the enclosure on the left side I saw him getting up from his usual enclosure on the right side and making his way to the left side enclosure so they could clean the right one and drain the pool. It works neatly hopefully won't be long till the IRA is completed and the zoo can have a hippo in each enclosure.

The former mandrill/cassowary enclosure remained empty as mentioned above i couldn't find out about plans for this exhibit the few no shows today were the sumatran tigers in both tote and lion gorge the squirrel monkeys and the Emperor tamarins. i didn't see the platypus either (though he wasn't even in the enclosure).

Overall I give Melbourne zoo a 9/10 it easily has the best layout of the four main city zoos and innovative exhibits that get you up close and personal with the animals. many of these precincts are decades old and yet still hold up to this day and were truly ahead of their time almost every animal we encountered was active. The only thing they could improve is obviously species diversity but with binturongs back on site and nyala hopefully on their way I can see them going up for that. they're gonna have a challenge though when the elephants move to werribee next year I'm sure the addition of sloth bear and dare I say clouded leopard may definitely help them win the visitors over, Overhead walkways for orangutans and gibbons would drive it home. points of difference are definitely beneficial and of course will have people visiting both sites having lions and giraffes at Melbourne zoo is fine in my eyes but copying all of their sister sites work like a certain South Australian Zoo definitely feels cheap though it definitely doesn't look very much like Melbourne Zoo's intention.
 
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Melbourne Zoo visit/review/updates

Had my visit to Melbourne zoo today unfortunately I didn't get many questions answered the only questions I did get answered have probably been heard and posted here before

  • I asked about the breeding plans for snow leopards the only answer I got was hopefully in the near future.
  • I asked about the future plans to import a female sumatran orangutan during the encounter and have been told that they're looking for a suitable mate but they need to have space as well obviously, I never got to ask about a potential expansion as everyone else had questions and before I could ask the tour ended but I can only imagine its on the cards if space is what's holding them back from importing a female.
On that note the orangutan experience was amazing i witnessed the siamang gibbons having a feed on top of the viewing deck which was a unique view we then went downstairs to see gabi the hybrid orangutan having a training session it was fascinating to learn her story and see her work out how to get nuts into her exhibit with the use of a stick and being just a metre or so away from one of these great apes was humbling.

  • In addition to the info I got from asking I at least found out that the two siamangs in the orangutan sanctuary don't have breeding recommendations just yet due to being represented quite a bit regionally but they'll hopefully get one soon.

The visit overall was great it's improved a lot since my last visit in 2017 which was already great. I think the leopard Ridge which wasn't there last time certainly helps.

The snow leopards were quite active as i made my way to their exhibit as soon as i walked through the gates and spent about 15 minutes marvelling as female mishka ate her brekkie right at the viewing window with no one even passing by in the first 10 minutes. Kang Ju was also hanging around the glass for a little bit when he was first let into his enclosure which according to the volunteer I was talking with he doesn't usually do.

The three Collared peccaries were roaming even going pretty close to the fence seemingly investigating me while vocalising which I have to say wasn't what I expected to hear from them quite a bit different from your domestic pig their inevitable phase out will undoubtedly be a loss to the zoo or at least the zoochat Australian community as it seems many of the other visitors took the ****** pigs for granted and walked away after a 10 second glance.

I visited the elephant herd several times throughout the day and it was amazing seeing the 3 calves playing with each other and getting up to all sorts of antics by midday the females with calves moved into the third exhibit with luk chai then being let into the second one to explore while also eating I even witnessed him rear up on his hind legs to reach for branches off a tree which was insane.

The former zebra exhibit is now available for the giraffes to access but I'm sure this was already noted. The former tapir enclosure appeared to have some ladders and buckets in with the pool drained hopefully Reno's that'll be done soon for the nyala.

Only one colobus was viewable in the treetop primates hopefully one was just hiding it would be a shame If we lost another one or eventually the species from Melbourne.

Felix made use of the enclosure on the left side I saw him getting up from his usual enclosure on the right side and making his way to the left side enclosure so they could clean the right one and drain the pool. It works neatly hopefully won't be long till the IRA is completed and the zoo can have a hippo in each enclosure.

The former mandrill/cassowary enclosure remained empty as mentioned above i couldn't find out about plans for this exhibit the few no shows today were the sumatran tigers in both tote and lion gorge the squirrel monkeys and the Emperor tamarins. i didn't see the platypus either (though he wasn't even in the enclosure).

Overall I give Melbourne zoo a 9/10 it easily has the best layout of the four main city zoos and innovative exhibits that get you up close and personal with the animals. many of these precincts are decades old and yet still hold up to this day and were truly ahead of their time almost every animal we encountered was active. The only thing they could improve is obviously species diversity but with binturongs back on site and nyala hopefully on their way I can see them going up for that. they're gonna have a challenge though when the elephants move to werribee next year I'm sure the addition of sloth bear and dare I say clouded leopard may definitely help them win the visitors over, Overhead walkways for orangutans and gibbons would drive it home. points of difference are definitely beneficial and of course will have people visiting both sites having lions and giraffes at Melbourne zoo is fine in my eyes but copying all of their sister sites work like a certain South Australian Zoo definitely feels cheap.

Great review @Patrick Keegan. It was really interesting to read your thoughts and I’m glad you had a good visit.

Yes, it appears Melbourne are waiting for the expansion of the orangutan exhibit (into the elephant exhibit) before they undertake an import of a female Sumatran orangutan. The inevitable passing of the elderly hybrid female will allow them even more options of rotating social groups (including the Siamang). I don’t believe Malu is that genetically valuable on a global scale (his mother is from a well represented European line); and in any case, I suspect Sydney Zoo will receive a male (possibly Sungai) to breed with Malu’s sister, Dewi, when their elderly father passes.

I agree Sloth bear and Clouded leopard would be great additions to the zoo and serve as points of difference. Big cats and bears were popular 100 years ago and little has changed in that regard. Aside from the impractical Giant panda, little can rival elephants, so a combination of species in the best way forward imo. Future proofing for evolving exhibit standards mean Indian rhinoceros are a poor fit as the exhibit space they would take up could be better allocated to smaller species.
 
I asked about the future plans to import a female sumatran orangutan during the encounter and have been told that they're looking for a suitable mate but they need to have space as well obviously, I never got to ask about a potential expansion as everyone else had questions and before I could ask the tour ended but I can only imagine its on the cards if space is what's holding them back from importing a female.
That would make a lot of sense. Melbourne would theoretically need to house Gaby and Kiani separately if they were to acquire a breeding female for Malu; especially following the Saimangs move into the next door enclosure.

The most logical move would be to build an additional habitat; and the lake opposite presents a nice opportunity for this. At the moment this is is the only realistic option as there are currently no other regional takers for Melbourne’s current two females and Gaby could still have another two decades ahead of her.
In addition to the info I got from asking I at least found out that the two siamangs in the orangutan sanctuary don't have breeding recommendations just yet due to being represented quite a bit regionally but they'll hopefully get one soon
That’s what I heard as well, but obviously not directly from keepers hence the desire for confirmation. Saimang babies would be great as there’s obviously not going to be any other ape babies in the meantime!
The three Collared peccaries were roaming even going pretty close to the fence seemingly investigating me while vocalising which I have to say wasn't what I expected to hear from them quite a bit different from your domestic pig their inevitable phase out will undoubtedly be a loss to the zoo or at least the zoochat Australian community as it seems many of the other visitors took the ****** pigs for granted and walked away after a 10 second glance.
Very characteristic of them; they’re a very confident bunch around visitors. I’ve actually seen visitors lean over and touch them multiple teams due to the fact that they come so close to the fence!
The former zebra exhibit is now available for the giraffes to access but I'm sure this was already noted. The former tapir enclosure appeared to have some ladders and buckets in with the pool drained hopefully Reno's that'll be done soon for the nyala.
Giraffes have always had access to the zebra exhibit; but I assume the absence of the zebras will provide the Giraffes with at least somewhat more comfort without the zebras pestering them.

That’s good news re. The tapir enclosure. It does seem they’re renovating it at the moment for the Nyala females; who would hopefully be arriving before the years end.
Only one colobus was viewable in the treetop primates hopefully one was just hiding it would be a shame If we lost another one or eventually the species from Melbourne.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one was hiding. As I’ve previously mentioned, Kipenzi has a fondness for hiding just out of view (below the viewing glass).
Felix made use of the enclosure on the left side I saw him getting up from his usual enclosure on the right side and making his way to the left side enclosure so they could clean the right one and drain the pool. It works neatly hopefully won't be long till the IRA is completed and the zoo can have a hippo in each enclosure.
Good to hear he has access to both enclosures now. This was something I had previously speculated during my last few visits but wasn’t entirely sure if he was just being rotated. The selection of where he wants to go would be very enriching for him as both enclosures are quite different in design.
 
Melbourne Zoo visit/updates/review

... the few no shows today were the sumatran tigers in both tote and lion gorge...
I imagine Hutan must have just been fed in the last day or two. He is fed roughly once a week, and when he does he usually drags the carcasse into his den to chow down. When this happens he stays with it to guard it. Also may have jst been napping...
 
I imagine Hutan must have just been fed in the last day or two. He is fed roughly once a week, and when he does he usually drags the carcasse into his den to chow down. When this happens he stays with it to guard it. Also may have jst been napping...

It sounds like Hutan is usually a decent display animal (at least better than Indrah); though the isolation of their exhibits from each other will reduce activity. The tigers at Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington are far more active; with the majority of their focus being on the adjacent tigers in their respective exhibits.

Most zoos in the region implement fasting days with their tigers, which reduces anticipation behaviour e.g. pacing, but I’ve never heard of one feeding once a week, which is interesting to hear. I’d imagine he does very little for 2-3 days after eating from the carcass, which is why most zoos feed smaller amounts three or four times a week.
 
It sounds like Hutan is usually a decent display animal (at least better than Indrah); though the isolation of their exhibits from each other will reduce activity. The tigers at Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington are far more active; with the majority of their focus being on the adjacent tigers in their respective exhibits.

Most zoos in the region implement fasting days with their tigers, which reduces anticipation behaviour e.g. pacing, but I’ve never heard of one feeding once a week, which is interesting to hear. I’d imagine he does very little for 2-3 days after eating from the carcass, which is why most zoos feed smaller amounts three or four times a week.
Yeah - when I did the Tiger BoH experience they talked about feeding patterns - he does have 2-3 quiet days. They are replicating feeding patterns in the wild. They usually feed with at times 50kg carcasse. He gets small enrichment treats in his enclosure at times too. The carcasse is also usually given to him in ways he has to work to get it. Whether that is it being strung up, or weighed with logs for him to drag.
As for the isolation between the pair - as said earlier, I recommend a second on display enclosure between Man Jai's enclosure and the lake, directly beside Hutan's BoH spaces.
 
It sounds like Hutan is usually a decent display animal (at least better than Indrah); though the isolation of their exhibits from each other will reduce activity. The tigers at Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington are far more active; with the majority of their focus being on the adjacent tigers in their respective exhibits.

Most zoos in the region implement fasting days with their tigers, which reduces anticipation behaviour e.g. pacing, but I’ve never heard of one feeding once a week, which is interesting to hear. I’d imagine he does very little for 2-3 days after eating from the carcass, which is why most zoos feed smaller amounts three or four times a week.
I believe Howlers use to do it for days. Perhaps still do!
 
I imagine Hutan must have just been fed in the last day or two. He is fed roughly once a week, and when he does he usually drags the carcasse into his den to chow down. When this happens he stays with it to guard it. Also may have jst been napping...

It sounds like Hutan is usually a decent display animal (at least better than Indrah); though the isolation of their exhibits from each other will reduce activity. The tigers at Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington are far more active; with the majority of their focus being on the adjacent tigers in their respective exhibits.

Most zoos in the region implement fasting days with their tigers, which reduces anticipation behaviour e.g. pacing, but I’ve never heard of one feeding once a week, which is interesting to hear. I’d imagine he does very little for 2-3 days after eating from the carcass, which is why most zoos feed smaller amounts three or four times a week.

Yeah - when I did the Tiger BoH experience they talked about feeding patterns - he does have 2-3 quiet days. They are replicating feeding patterns in the wild. They usually feed with at times 50kg carcasse. He gets small enrichment treats in his enclosure at times too. The carcasse is also usually given to him in ways he has to work to get it. Whether that is it being strung up, or weighed with logs for him to drag.
As for the isolation between the pair - as said earlier, I recommend a second on display enclosure between Man Jai's enclosure and the lake, directly beside Hutan's BoH spaces.
Canceling of encounters usually comes down to something happening with the animals themselves. Eg. They may be off display for a small period at that time for some reason or another.

The Tiger keeper talks I’ve attended for Hutan have always just involved a talk with Hutan pacing up the back. The keepers try to ensure he’s out and viewable (using the only measure of locking him out), but especially if it’s extreme weather, they’d obviously have to give him the choice.

Speaking about feeding the tigers, I recall seeing Binjai scaling a 3-4 metre pole in the old big cat cages to retrieve a carcass from the top of it. Was quite a sight for my younger self and obviously one zoo experience I can remember from over a decade ago!
 
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