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The "lack of space" argument seems a bit ... lame. There is only less than 10 zoos involved with bonobos. Chimpanzees is not much better and basically managed to extinction / phase out, more than keeping a sustainable population in place (and one that is actually pure-bred and along ESU lines in the various recognised subspecies.

It is not an argument, just a fact. They are running out of room at the facilities currently keeping them to continue to house more adult individuals. There are no new holders on the way. Unless they breed and cull, they cannot continue to do much breeding.
 
I'm slightly confused - are you suggesting that chimpanzees are being phased out of AZA zoos? Because that is most certainly not the case. They are a Signature SSP (previously a Green SSP) with over 30 holders, SAFE program, and in general not going anywhere.
Most zoos have a no breeding or unknown pedigree mark to their population. For a large Continent like North America ca. 50 holdings for chimpanzee (of hybrid, pure-bred subspecies or other descriptions) is quite low and I continue to believe 10 holdings for bonobos locally is just very little (compare that to orang utans and gorillas) as well as to what conservation needs for the species exist both in and ex situ. The Great Ape situation is not at all that good within AZA ... see also how few gibbon species are actually managed ... (and the majority not or non-existent).

I know full well that the US bonobo population is now part of the near global EAZA managed population which is very much larger in size (yet still only 11 holdings only, .... I advocate it could and should be much larger ....). For the chimpanzee population is quite large within Europe and managed to subspecies level while excluding the hybrids (which is a good thing as ideally you would want to manage a population which is compatible and relevant to their wild counterparts in various parts of Central, East and West Africa. Illustrative: 75+35 (non specific), ellioti (there are ... ones, not quantatively registered), schweinfurthii 8, troglodytes 15 and verus 41+12. Compare North America: 51 holdings.
 
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Hopeful a new facility joins the SSP in the future - they're wonderful animals, and seeing baby bonobos was the highlight of my 2014 Milwaukee trip, which until last year was my most recent visit.

I am hopeful that others will join as well. Perhaps Columbus Zoo's new expansion will inspire some others to take them on as well. In my opinion, Omaha, Tampa, Atlanta, Brookfield or Lincoln Park, and possibly some of the bigger California zoos would all be great candidates.

10 holdings for bonobos

There are only eight holders, not ten. Nine if you include Zoologico Benito Juarez, but their individuals are extremely old and they have no ties to any of the United States holders.

I have not updated my chimpanzee document in some time, but the last that I heard, the following AZA institutions know the pedigrees (to enough of a degree to breed) of their chimpanzees:
  • Albuquerque
  • Busch Gardens Tampa
  • Chattanooga
  • Dallas
  • Detroit
  • Houston
  • Kansas City
  • Lincoln Park
  • Lion Country Safari
  • Little Rock
  • Los Angeles
  • Maryland
  • North Carolina
  • Oklahoma City
  • Saint Louis
  • Sedgwick County
  • Tulsa
  • Knoxville

Gladys Porter, Oakland, and Oregon are not breeding due to unknown pedigrees. Honolulu and Gladys Porter both sent off individuals to breed at other facilities, though.

Indianapolis, John Ball, Miami, and Sacramento are not breeding, but it is not specified to be due to unknown pedigrees.

Rolling Hills has AI candidates, but they are not breeding themselves. San Francisco has AI candidates, but most of their individuals and either too old or have medical issues that exclude them from the program.
 
I'd love to see Lincoln Park take on bonobos. They are largely serving as a retirement home for elderly chimpanzees (though a few are younger retirees from the entertainment industry) and while these animals deserve to live a long and happy retirement and can still show personality and charm, some of them do not go on display and when the elderly individuals pass on they will probably need a new troop. I think a breeding group of bonobo would be a great use of the space and add some new life to the exhibit.
 
I'd love to see Lincoln Park take on bonobos. They are largely serving as a retirement home for elderly chimpanzees (though a few are younger retirees from the entertainment industry) and while these animals deserve to live a long and happy retirement and can still show personality and charm, some of them do not go on display and when the elderly individuals pass on they will probably need a new troop. I think a breeding group of bonobo would be a great use of the space and add some new life to the exhibit.

Agreed. Even if they held a non-breeding it would be beneficial. I think Atlanta makes sense due to them having so much focus on gorillas and orangutans, so adding on bonobos would contribute to their dedication to great apes. They may be running out of space, though. I don’t recall Atlanta being very large.
 
Most zoos have a no breeding or unknown pedigree mark to their population. For a large Continent like North America ca. 50 holdings for chimpanzee (of hybrid, pure-bred subspecies or other descriptions) is quite low and I continue to believe 10 holdings for bonobos locally is just very little (compare that to orang utans and gorillas) as well as to what conservation needs for the species exist both in and ex situ. The Great Ape situation is not at all that good within AZA ... see also how few gibbon species are actually managed ... (and the majority not or non-existent).

I know full well that the US bonobo population is now part of the near global EAZA managed population which is very much larger in size (yet still only 11 holdings only, .... I advocate it could and should be much larger ....). For the chimpanzee population is quite large within Europe and managed to subspecies level while excluding the hybrids (which is a good thing as ideally you would want to manage a population which is compatible and relevant to their wild counterparts in various parts of Central, East and West Africa. Illustrative: 75+35 (non specific), ellioti (there are ... ones, not quantatively registered), schweinfurthii 8, troglodytes 15 and verus 41+12. Compare North America: 51 holdings.
So let me get this straight: You think AZA zoos need to house more bonobos, more chimpanzees, and more species of gibbons. Are you aware that space in zoos is limited? Difficult decisions have to made as to what species are or are not managed- and as to what the target population sizes are. It's certainly okay to be critical of those decisions, but there's no benefit in making large laundry lists of all the species that "need" to be in zoos. If you want more holders of bonobos, for instance, then what species are you going to have less holders of instead? Gorillas? Chimpanzees? Mandrills? There are less reputable zoos in North America than in Europe- so naturally there aren't going to be as many species managed and/or in as large of populations.

I also feel it'd be beneficial to treat zoos in countries/continents other than our own with a little more cultural relativity. What works for zoos in the European Union isn't going to be the same as what works for zoos in the United States, and likewise with all the other countries as well. Just because European zoos do things a certain way doesn't mean its wrong for US zoos to do things a different way, and both the AZA and EAZA have unique challenges that aren't faced by the zoos of other continents. Given the different cultural values in each continent as well, it's a little insensitive to be constantly criticizing the zoos of other countries for doing things in a way different than our own country would.
 
HIGHLIGHT OF THE DAY: A prehensile-tailed porcupine was born on June 4th, and it was wonderful to see the baby in its brown and more fluffy form. It stuck close to its mother, but was not afraid to try out some climbing of its own. The Small Mammals Building recently has been feeling quite empty, though that's not necessarily a bad thing, so to have an active baby born is a sweet bonus that adds a little life.
The has officially announced the birth and has confirmed that the baby is a girl.
A baby porcupine is born at the Milwaukee County Zoo
 
I made my first visit to Milwaukee since, 2022 today. As this place has been well documented of late, I will stick to what I found interesting. Also, I decided to try something new this time and brought some rain clouds with me from home to see how they affected the viewing experience.

I personally find the way Milwaukee keeps their flamingos to be one of the best there is. The summer home has to be around a full acre. Most of it a human-built but natural growth pond that they share with koi so large they are probably as old as the zoo is. I would love to hear other’s perspectives on this though.

In the Aviary the Pygmy Geese and the Mouse Deer are new favorites of mine.

While the loss of the King Penguins is unfortunate, they still have three species which is more than most other facilities.

I wonder if the Whooping Cranes and the Crested Screamers could be moved to smaller but still large pond areas just above the flamingo pond instead of that dreary corner of the “Pheasantry”.

I was lucky enough to pass through the ectotherm building while the Pacific Kelp Forest Tank was receiving its monthly deep clean. This involves two keepers diving in the tank and one keeping watch from the view area. I was able to chat with the observer for a while and got some interesting information. Some pertains to older events so if it has been reported previously, please bear with me.

Regarding the loss of the Leopard Sharks several years ago, apparently, they did pass away and it was determined to be the result of a slow progressing parasitic infection. It was likely something they arrived with (I think most Leopard Sharks at that time were still wild caught). They had been fine for several years before becoming ill. It does not sound like they were able to get an exact ID on the species of organism; but as the other fish are still fine after many more years it is believed to only affect elasmobranchs or even Leopard Sharks specifically. As most aquatic parasites can survive in the environment (substrate in particular) for years or even decades, they (the zoo as a whole) do not believe they can ever keep elasmobranchs safely in that specific tank again.

On a happier note, the Arrau is just fine. She was actually removed from the habitat for the benefit of the other inhabitants. Apparently, the heater for the habitat failed and while it is fixed now, the Arapaima became ill while the tank was below temp and she decided to start harassing the largest fish in the tank (gotta love a boss lady). The Arapaima does still seem to be keeping quite close to the bottom). Anyhow, until everyone else in the take is 100%, the Arrau is in time-out in the basement.

I also got some info on the new building plan that I will add to that thread.

I am unsure if this was stated or just speculated on before; but all of the Golden-Lion Tamarins, Cotton-Top Tamarins, and the Goeldi’s Monkeys have been moved to as shared space (three sections wide) in the small mammal house.

These exhibits are just way too short for such active, arboreal creatures. The same applies to the lemurs and pretty much every thing in Primates of the world too. Milwaukee’s Orangutan exhibit makes Vilas’ look phenomenal by comparison which is something I hope is addressed very soon.

I wonder if the smaller monkeys could cohabitate with the sloth as that habitat is much better proportioned.

The nocturnal side of the small mammal house has always been better than the diurnal side. Though it has lost most of its diversity over the years (Springhaas, Naked Mole Rats, and multiple species of bats have all been lost). The Galagoes were very active and it turns out that Slow Lorises can be plenty fast when they want to be. Vilas should take note of this as they are keeping their Galagoes in a brightly lit room and it is going about how you would expect. The Prehensile-Tailed Porcupette is on exhibit with the parents and is already about half the length of the mother.

One of the three grizzlies has been separated from the other two and is now in the old polar bear habitat. Side note, is Milwaukee the only facility the has both Grizzly Bears (Ursus arctos horribilis) AND Alaskan /Kodiak Brown Bears (Ursus arctos middendorffi).

Are we sure the prairie dogs are back? None were visible and there didn’t appear to be any fresh burrows. The sign is up though. I am also unsure if there is actually a badger.

At this point I think Milwaukee may have the most diverse collection of hoofstock in the Midwest. So many incredible species have been added recently.

One final thing, I can confirm that even with avian flu concerns, there are MANY Peafowl free roaming the zoo. The Peacocks are everywhere but most of the Peahens are sticking to the elephant yard. I presume that they are hiding from the Peacocks.

With my experiment concluded, I will just say that, if like me, you don’t mind the rain, you should bring some with you on your future visits as it is a very effective crowd repellent.
 
I made my first visit to Milwaukee since, 2022 today. As this place has been well documented of late, I will stick to what I found interesting. Also, I decided to try something new this time and brought some rain clouds with me from home to see how they affected the viewing experience.

I personally find the way Milwaukee keeps their flamingos to be one of the best there is. The summer home has to be around a full acre. Most of it a human-built but natural growth pond that they share with koi so large they are probably as old as the zoo is. I would love to hear other’s perspectives on this though.

In the Aviary the Pygmy Geese and the Mouse Deer are new favorites of mine.

While the loss of the King Penguins is unfortunate, they still have three species which is more than most other facilities.

I wonder if the Whooping Cranes and the Crested Screamers could be moved to smaller but still large pond areas just above the flamingo pond instead of that dreary corner of the “Pheasantry”.

I was lucky enough to pass through the ectotherm building while the Pacific Kelp Forest Tank was receiving its monthly deep clean. This involves two keepers diving in the tank and one keeping watch from the view area. I was able to chat with the observer for a while and got some interesting information. Some pertains to older events so if it has been reported previously, please bear with me.

Regarding the loss of the Leopard Sharks several years ago, apparently, they did pass away and it was determined to be the result of a slow progressing parasitic infection. It was likely something they arrived with (I think most Leopard Sharks at that time were still wild caught). They had been fine for several years before becoming ill. It does not sound like they were able to get an exact ID on the species of organism; but as the other fish are still fine after many more years it is believed to only affect elasmobranchs or even Leopard Sharks specifically. As most aquatic parasites can survive in the environment (substrate in particular) for years or even decades, they (the zoo as a whole) do not believe they can ever keep elasmobranchs safely in that specific tank again.

On a happier note, the Arrau is just fine. She was actually removed from the habitat for the benefit of the other inhabitants. Apparently, the heater for the habitat failed and while it is fixed now, the Arapaima became ill while the tank was below temp and she decided to start harassing the largest fish in the tank (gotta love a boss lady). The Arapaima does still seem to be keeping quite close to the bottom). Anyhow, until everyone else in the take is 100%, the Arrau is in time-out in the basement.

I also got some info on the new building plan that I will add to that thread.

I am unsure if this was stated or just speculated on before; but all of the Golden-Lion Tamarins, Cotton-Top Tamarins, and the Goeldi’s Monkeys have been moved to as shared space (three sections wide) in the small mammal house.

These exhibits are just way too short for such active, arboreal creatures. The same applies to the lemurs and pretty much every thing in Primates of the world too. Milwaukee’s Orangutan exhibit makes Vilas’ look phenomenal by comparison which is something I hope is addressed very soon.

I wonder if the smaller monkeys could cohabitate with the sloth as that habitat is much better proportioned.

The nocturnal side of the small mammal house has always been better than the diurnal side. Though it has lost most of its diversity over the years (Springhaas, Naked Mole Rats, and multiple species of bats have all been lost). The Galagoes were very active and it turns out that Slow Lorises can be plenty fast when they want to be. Vilas should take note of this as they are keeping their Galagoes in a brightly lit room and it is going about how you would expect. The Prehensile-Tailed Porcupette is on exhibit with the parents and is already about half the length of the mother.

One of the three grizzlies has been separated from the other two and is now in the old polar bear habitat. Side note, is Milwaukee the only facility the has both Grizzly Bears (Ursus arctos horribilis) AND Alaskan /Kodiak Brown Bears (Ursus arctos middendorffi).

Are we sure the prairie dogs are back? None were visible and there didn’t appear to be any fresh burrows. The sign is up though. I am also unsure if there is actually a badger.

At this point I think Milwaukee may have the most diverse collection of hoofstock in the Midwest. So many incredible species have been added recently.

One final thing, I can confirm that even with avian flu concerns, there are MANY Peafowl free roaming the zoo. The Peacocks are everywhere but most of the Peahens are sticking to the elephant yard. I presume that they are hiding from the Peacocks.

With my experiment concluded, I will just say that, if like me, you don’t mind the rain, you should bring some with you on your future visits as it is a very effective crowd repellent.
King Penguins have not been in the aviary for over two decades I believe.

It's not uncommon for fully inhabited prairie dog or badger exhibits to look empty to the untrained eye. Trust me, they're there. ;)

There are definitely more diverse hoofstock collections are safari-type facilities. Depending at how one defines the Midwest places like The Wilds and Saint Louis for sure beat it out.
 
King Penguins have not been in the aviary for over two decades I believe.
I knew I hadn't seen them since I was a little kid but that still makes me feel old. :D They are just the classic penguins so I still lament their loss.
There are definitely more diverse hoofstock collections are safari-type facilities. Depending at how one defines the Midwest places like The Wilds and Saint Louis for sure beat it out.
I tend not to visit the private "safari parks" but I suppose we should count them, and while I would discount Ohio from the Midwest, Saint Louis is a good point. I haven't been to Minnesota in a long time either but I know they have been steadily improving. Brookfield seems to have divested most of its larger mammal species though.
 
Though it has lost most of its diversity over the years (Springhaas, Naked Mole Rats, and multiple species of bats have all been lost).

Are we sure the prairie dogs are back? None were visible and there didn’t appear to be any fresh burrows. The sign is up though. I am also unsure if there is actually a badger.

When were there ever naked mole rats? Where would they have even been kept? Nothing in the nocturnal area seems appropriate for burrowing animals.

And yes there are definitely prairie dogs and a badger in there somewhere.

King Penguins have not been in the aviary for over two decades I believe.

Has it been that long? It seems like they were there just yesterday. Or at least, within the last 5-10 years or so. Also the adelie penguins for that brief period of time before both left.
 
I I haven't been to Minnesota in a long time either but I know they have been steadily improving.
Unfortunately, that could not be more further from the case. The zoo’s ungulate collection has roughly halved over the past decade, with there only a measly 7 non-domesticated ungulate species currently being displayed. Most of the interesting and notable species such as Woodland Caribou, Musk Oxen, Wild Boar, Visayan Warty Pigs, Transcaspian Urial and Goitered Gazelles departing the zoo in the last 3-4 years.
One zoo that may hold the title for the most diverse Hoofstock collection in the Midwest is the nearby Hemker Park Zoo, which has an impressive collection of somewhere between 30 and 40 ungulate species, although most of those are either off display or at their offsite private ranch.
 
While the loss of the King Penguins is unfortunate, they still have three species which is more than most other facilities.
I wondered on my previous visits if my memories of seeing King penguins there as a child were confusion with another facility!

Regarding the loss of the Leopard Sharks several years ago, apparently, they did pass away and it was determined to be the result of a slow progressing parasitic infection. It was likely something they arrived with (I think most Leopard Sharks at that time were still wild caught). They had been fine for several years before becoming ill. It does not sound like they were able to get an exact ID on the species of organism; but as the other fish are still fine after many more years it is believed to only affect elasmobranchs or even Leopard Sharks specifically. As most aquatic parasites can survive in the environment (substrate in particular) for years or even decades, they (the zoo as a whole) do not believe they can ever keep elasmobranchs safely in that specific tank again.
Thank you so much, this was a subject I was really curious about. I was aware of a lot of the other collection changes when I made my first visit in years last summer but was caught totally off-guard by the leopard sharks being missing, and actually continued to look for them for quite a bit as it used to be my favorite tank. Terrible situation.

On a happier note, the Arrau is just fine. She was actually removed from the habitat for the benefit of the other inhabitants. Apparently, the heater for the habitat failed and while it is fixed now, the Arapaima became ill while the tank was below temp and she decided to start harassing the largest fish in the tank (gotta love a boss lady). The Arapaima does still seem to be keeping quite close to the bottom). Anyhow, until everyone else in the take is 100%, the Arrau is in time-out in the basement.
Glad to hear Onassis is doing okay!

I am unsure if this was stated or just speculated on before; but all of the Golden-Lion Tamarins, Cotton-Top Tamarins, and the Goeldi’s Monkeys have been moved to as shared space (three sections wide) in the small mammal house.
Interesting they have started to mix all three. I previously knew of cotton top and golden lion tamarin mixing but not with the callimico before.

The nocturnal side of the small mammal house has always been better than the diurnal side. Though it has lost most of its diversity over the years (Springhaas, Naked Mole Rats, and multiple species of bats have all been lost). The Galagoes were very active and it turns out that Slow Lorises can be plenty fast when they want to be. Vilas should take note of this as they are keeping their Galagoes in a brightly lit room and it is going about how you would expect. The Prehensile-Tailed Porcupette is on exhibit with the parents and is already about half the length of the mother.
The springhaas, potto, and kinkajou are very missed... and the small cats a little, although they are better off out of there. I always have a vivid memory of being charmed by the nocturnal room on a day when nearly every resident was active. Watching the loris and galago is often a highlight for me. I really hope the building renovation preserves a nocturnal hall.

One of the three grizzlies has been separated from the other two and is now in the old polar bear habitat. Side note, is Milwaukee the only facility the has both Grizzly Bears (Ursus arctos horribilis) AND Alaskan /Kodiak Brown Bears (Ursus arctos middendorffi).
I believe theirs is Alaskan peninsular brown bear, not Kodiak bear, and I think those are both distinct from one another?

Are we sure the prairie dogs are back? None were visible and there didn’t appear to be any fresh burrows. The sign is up though. I am also unsure if there is actually a badger.
I managed to see Oscar the badger twice last year, in July and September, so unless something's changed since he's still kicking. Wishing any and all zoochatters' luck with him, he's a fun animal.

At this point I think Milwaukee may have the most diverse collection of hoofstock in the Midwest. So many incredible species have been added recently.
Saint Louis is tough to beat, but as far as the Lake Michigan states go, I do think they're close to the top. Brookfield comes close thanks to several smaller species, but Milwaukee's collection of larger species is impressive. I've really been coming to appreciate it as a fine hoofstock zoo.
 
When were there ever naked mole rats? Where would they have even been kept? Nothing in the nocturnal area seems appropriate for burrowing animals.

For a long time (but also, not for a long time now) they were the first thing on the left in the now blacked out habitat. It was split into multiple levels at that time. That said, I see no record of them in the archives, so maybe I am the crazy one.

And yes there are definitely prairie dogs and a badger in there somewhere.

I always seem to have bad luck with those two at Milwaukee but for today, I’m going to blame the rain.
Has it been that long? It seems like they were there just yesterday. Or at least, within the last 5-10 years or so. Also the adelie penguins for that brief period of time before both left.

The last archived version of their website that lists King Penguins was June 19th 2012. On August 13th 2012 the first version of their PDF species list appears. Numerous changes from the older lists appear at this point. I expect that this was just catching up on older updates though, rather than everything changing at once.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120619232140/http://www.milwaukeezoo.org/visit/animals.php

https://web.archive.org/web/20120813071325/http://www.milwaukeezoo.org/pdf/AnimalList.pdf

Unfortunately, that could not be more further from the case. The zoo’s ungulate collection has roughly halved over the past decade, with there only a measly 7 non-domesticated ungulate species currently being displayed. Most of the interesting and notable species such as Woodland Caribou, Musk Oxen, Wild Boar, Visayan Warty Pigs, Transcaspian Urial and Goitered Gazelles departing the zoo in the last 3-4 years.

I meant improving on a more general basis. I was not aware they had lost so many hoofstock species but in general they seem to have turned into one of the best zoos in the country. At 485 acres they are one of the largest AZA facilities so you would think they would focus on large hoofstock though. It is at the top of my to-do list for revisits.

Thank you so much, this was a subject I was really curious about. I was aware of a lot of the other collection changes when I made my first visit in years last summer but was caught totally off-guard by the leopard sharks being missing, and actually continued to look for them for quite a bit as it used to be my favorite tank. Terrible situation.

Same.

I believe theirs is Alaskan peninsular brown bear, not Kodiak bear, and I think those are both distinct from one another?

The current signage lists them as "Brown Bear" Usus arctos. The older documents said "Alaskan Brown Bear" which is usually synonymous with the Kodiak Ursus arctos middendorffi. I just did some fresh reading and it looks like the Alaska Peninsula Brown Bear Ursus arctos gyas is not universally recognized as distinct from the Grizzly Bear Ursus arctos horribilis. Milwaukee must have made the decision to list them as nonsubspecific / lineage unclear for the time being.
 
For a long time (but also, not for a long time now) they were the first thing on the left in the now blacked out habitat. It was split into multiple levels at that time. That said, I see no record of them in the archives, so maybe I am the crazy one.



I always seem to have bad luck with those two at Milwaukee but for today, I’m going to blame the rain.


The last archived version of their website that lists King Penguins was June 19th 2012. On August 13th 2012 the first version of their PDF species list appears. Numerous changes from the older lists appear at this point. I expect that this was just catching up on older updates though, rather than everything changing at once.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120619232140/http://www.milwaukeezoo.org/visit/animals.php

https://web.archive.org/web/20120813071325/http://www.milwaukeezoo.org/pdf/AnimalList.pdf



I meant improving on a more general basis. I was not aware they had lost so many hoofstock species but in general they seem to have turned into one of the best zoos in the country. At 485 acres they are one of the largest AZA facilities so you would think they would focus on large hoofstock though. It is at the top of my to-do list for revisits.



Same.



The current signage lists them as "Brown Bear" Usus arctos. The older documents said "Alaskan Brown Bear" which is usually synonymous with the Kodiak Ursus arctos middendorffi. I just did some fresh reading and it looks like the Alaska Peninsula Brown Bear Ursus arctos gyas is not universally recognized as distinct from the Grizzly Bear Ursus arctos horribilis. Milwaukee must have made the decision to list them as nonsubspecific / lineage unclear for the time being.
I think King Penguin being on Milwaukee's website is just a remnant of an older time, as I don't recall them being held at that time, and I think I'd remember.
 
On the king penguin timeline debate, the Gentoo penguins arrived in spring 2009. In this issue of the zoo's news magazine (ALIVE MAGAZINE: FALL 2009 - Zoological Society of Milwaukee) there is no mention of King penguins so they were gone at least by then. I think I remember seeing somewhere that the King penguins left in 2007? But I cannot find a source for that anywhere.
As for the hoof stock discussion, the fairly recent additions of the scimitar horned oryx give Milwaukee a major bonus, as well as the longtime resident waterbuck (I haven't seen those anywhere else, let alone in the midwest) I personally believe that Saint Louis still beats out Milwaukee though.
 
I meant improving on a more general basis. I was not aware they had lost so many hoofstock species but in general they seem to have turned into one of the best zoos in the country. At 485 acres they are one of the largest AZA facilities so you would think they would focus on large hoofstock though. It is at the top of my to-do list for revisits.
Again, That unfortunately isn't true either. The zoo has been in a state of abject decline for the past decade, comparable to nearby zoos like Detroit and Brookfield (Although both seem to be on an upward trajectory recently, especially Brookfield), with no major exhibits having been opened since 2011. The zoo has lost a large chunk of their Bird and Mammal collection over the last few years, with several high-profiles species like Red Pandas, Dholes, Asian Small-Clawed Otters, Silvery Langurs, Cotton-Topped Tamarins, Demoiselle Cranes, as well as all of the species mentioned above having been phased out since 2020. many of their exhibits have also remained empty or occupied by species already held until very recently. The zoo has also fallen on hard times financially, with the zoo at risk of permanently closing at the beginning of COVID, and having struggled to get funding from the State of Minnesota (which owns the zoo). The zoo's vision is also incredibly unambitious, with no major new animal-related attractions planed for the foreseeable future, and the master plan almost solely focusing on guest amenities. just 15 years ago, many would have consider Minnesota a top-ten zoo in the US, but nowadays I doubt many would rank it anywhere near that high.
Despite the zoo's recent shortcomings, It's worth noting that much of the zoo's bad luck seems to have turned around in recent months. many of the formerly empty exhibits have been re-occupied, new species like California Sea Lions and American Martens have been added, and construction on many much-needed renovations has or will soon begin. Despite this, it'll take much more to bring the zoo back to where it used to be, but I'm cautiously optimistic for the future. Anyways, that's probably enough talk about Minnesota for now, considering this thread is completely unrelated :p.

On the king penguin timeline debate, the Gentoo penguins arrived in spring 2009. In this issue of the zoo's news magazine (ALIVE MAGAZINE: FALL 2009 - Zoological Society of Milwaukee) there is no mention of King penguins so they were gone at least by then. I think I remember seeing somewhere that the King penguins left in 2007? But I cannot find a source for that anywhere.
That's odd. I could have sworn I saw King Penguins at Milwaukee back in 2017, but I guess my mind must be playing tricks on me.
 
I believe I only saw the King penguins once or twice; I missed out on the aviary on my first visit in 2001, so I probably saw them somewhere between 2003 and 2007. I wish I could remember if I visited the aviary in 2014. I usually take Primates of the World to the Reptile building as a route so I didn't always backtrack to the aviary. (I make it a must-visit today.)

On the king penguin timeline debate, the Gentoo penguins arrived in spring 2009. In this issue of the zoo's news magazine (ALIVE MAGAZINE: FALL 2009 - Zoological Society of Milwaukee) there is no mention of King penguins so they were gone at least by then. I think I remember seeing somewhere that the King penguins left in 2007? But I cannot find a source for that anywhere.
As for the hoof stock discussion, the fairly recent additions of the scimitar horned oryx give Milwaukee a major bonus, as well as the longtime resident waterbuck (I haven't seen those anywhere else, let alone in the midwest) I personally believe that Saint Louis still beats out Milwaukee though.
Wow, you're correct about the waterbuck -- I am surprised. Lincoln Park held a defassa waterbuck, Stevie, from around 2011 to 2017, and Brookfield had a mixed savanna with waterbuck from 2010 to around 2018. I assumed they were fairly common but it does look like Milwaukee County is indeed one of the only holders in the midwest now - wow!

The zoo's vision is also incredibly unambitious, with no major new animal-related attractions planed for the foreseeable future, and the master plan almost solely focusing on guest amenities. just 15 years ago, many would have consider Minnesota a top-ten zoo in the US, but nowadays I doubt many would rank it anywhere near that high.
I'm sure it would still do very well. Species count matters less and less and enclosure size more and more, and Minnesota excels at the latter. ;)
 
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