Mixed species exhibit ideas

Please forgive me, I know this is going to be a foolish idea, but... what about a chimpanzee and African elephant mixed enclosure? I've seen success with elephants and baboons in the past (to the point of forming semi-symbiotic relationships where the baboons earn the trust of the elephants to and the elephants allow the baboons to ride their backs and eat the bugs off of them). S o I was thinking maybe a large savannah-like exhibit where at the edge is a large formation of boulders with walkways large enough for the chimps to get away from the elephants and get into their own enclosure, with water separating the chimps from the visitors(this could double as a typical moat seen in ape exhibits, and provide swimming space for the elephants).

In general, the idea of any primate being mixed with elephants, like baboons, vervets, etc.?
 
BenFoxster said:
Please forgive me, I know this is going to be a foolish idea, but... what about a chimpanzee and African elephant mixed enclosure? I've seen success with elephants and baboons in the past (to the point of forming semi-symbiotic relationships where the baboons earn the trust of the elephants to and the elephants allow the baboons to ride their backs and eat the bugs off of them). S o I was thinking maybe a large savannah-like exhibit where at the edge is a large formation of boulders with walkways large enough for the chimps to get away from the elephants and get into their own enclosure, with water separating the chimps from the visitors(this could double as a typical moat seen in ape exhibits, and provide swimming space for the elephants).

In general, the idea of any primate being mixed with elephants, like baboons, vervets, etc.?
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Chimpanzees are probably the worst primate to use in a mixed-species exhibit. This would likely not end very well.
 
I don’t think there’s any guarantee that the chimpanzees would stay on their side if there was only a boulder, though, to supposedly allow them to get away. After all there’s no reason to think a group of chimpanzees wouldn’t harass a juvenile elephant or even an adult if given the chance.
 
BenFoxster said:
Please forgive me, I know this is going to be a foolish idea, but... what about a chimpanzee and African elephant mixed enclosure? I've seen success with elephants and baboons in the past (to the point of forming semi-symbiotic relationships where the baboons earn the trust of the elephants to and the elephants allow the baboons to ride their backs and eat the bugs off of them). S o I was thinking maybe a large savannah-like exhibit where at the edge is a large formation of boulders with walkways large enough for the chimps to get away from the elephants and get into their own enclosure, with water separating the chimps from the visitors(this could double as a typical moat seen in ape exhibits, and provide swimming space for the elephants).

In general, the idea of any primate being mixed with elephants, like baboons, vervets, etc.?
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This is a mix that could get ugly real quickly if something provoked conflict. Containing both species would be quite difficult as well.
 
What about this exhibit similar to the Burgers' Zoo Mangrove exhibit?
Tropical Mangroves
1. Lagoon: Mangrove Jack, Spotted Scat, Banded Archerfish, Long-Spine Porcupinefish, Schooling Bannerfish, Dusky Flathead, Silver Moony, Yellowfin Bream, Pinnate Batfish, Dugong, Tawny Nurse-Shark, Mangrove Whipray
2. Tidal Mudflat: Mudskippers (Bearded, Giant), Crabs (Soldier, Fiddler), Beachrock Mangrove-Goby, African Moony, African Scat, Clouded Archerfish, Mangrove Horseshoe-Crab, Northern River-Garfish, Banded Toadfish
3. Crab-Eating Macaque, Asian Small-Clawed Otter
  • Spotted Whistling-Duck, Rose-Ringed Parakeet, Pied Imperial-Pigeon, Chestnut Rail, Honeyeaters (Brown, Red-Headed, Mangrove), Shining Flycatcher, Chestnut Teal, Yellow-Bellied Sunbird, Black-Winged Stilt, Little Kingfisher, Spangled Drongo, Nutmeg Mannikin (free-range)
Note - The Tidal Mudflat section has a simulated high-tide/low-tide which changes throughout the day. During the high-tide, fish are able to swim over the mudflat whereas during the low-tide they're restricted to a nearby pool off the edge of the "mudflat" and crabs/mudskippers are able to emerge.
 
OskarGC said:
What about this exhibit similar to the Burgers' Zoo Mangrove exhibit?
Tropical Mangroves
1. Lagoon: Mangrove Jack, Spotted Scat, Banded Archerfish, Long-Spine Porcupinefish, Schooling Bannerfish, Dusky Flathead, Silver Moony, Yellowfin Bream, Pinnate Batfish, Dugong, Tawny Nurse-Shark, Mangrove Whipray
2. Tidal Mudflat: Mudskippers (Bearded, Giant), Crabs (Soldier, Fiddler), Beachrock Mangrove-Goby, African Moony, African Scat, Clouded Archerfish, Mangrove Horseshoe-Crab, Northern River-Garfish, Banded Toadfish
3. Crab-Eating Macaque, Asian Small-Clawed Otter
  • Spotted Whistling-Duck, Rose-Ringed Parakeet, Pied Imperial-Pigeon, Chestnut Rail, Honeyeaters (Brown, Red-Headed, Mangrove), Shining Flycatcher, Chestnut Teal, Yellow-Bellied Sunbird, Black-Winged Stilt, Little Kingfisher, Spangled Drongo, Nutmeg Mannikin (free-range)
Note - The Tidal Mudflat section has a simulated high-tide/low-tide which changes throughout the day. During the high-tide, fish are able to swim over the mudflat whereas during the low-tide they're restricted to a nearby pool off the edge of the "mudflat" and crabs/mudskippers are able to emerge.
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I know that Burgers' Mangrove had to remove their ducks from the Mangrove hall because they kept crushing the Fiddler crab burrows. I'd also be nervous having Stilts and Ducks in the same room as Small-clawed otters.
 
Other mixes with bettongs (and similar animals) (According to ZTL):

- Kookaburra and Brush-turkey
- Night monkey and Sloth
- Laughingthrush, Pheasant-pigeon, Rice finch, Bleeding-heart and Bali Mynah
- Common brushtail possum
- Luzon giant cloud rat
- Koala and Echidna
- Tree kangaroo
- Australian shoveler, Bush stone-curlew and Kookaburra
- Blyth's hornbill and Masked lapwing
 
Haley said:
Chimpanzees are probably the worst primate to use in a mixed-species exhibit. This would likely not end very well.
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i think the chimps would either a. find a way to piss off the elephants to the point of the elephants killing the chimps, or b. the chimps finding a way to kill the elephants, and they would more than likely kill the baby elephants
 
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