1. Shouldn't work, because bears stress and kill bobcats
2. Should work, I think
3. If there's enough place, it should work
4. Idk
5. Should work, it's a popular mixed exhibit
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Mixed species exhibit ideas
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2. Should work, I think
3. If there's enough place, it should work
4. Idk
5. Should work, it's a popular mixed exhibit
At Planckendael in Belgium Americans Plains bison are housed with Rocky Mountain wapiti in a large paddock. But there has not been a male wapiti since shortly after the mix was started and the bisons haven't bred since either. There might be management reasons for this, but it could also have something to do with the mix.
I have a few that I would like to hear some opinions on:
- Duiker species and birds. I read in one of the Grzimek books that duikers will sometimes prey on small birds, up to the size of pigeons. But could duikers work mixed with larger birds, say turacos or hornbills or larger? Or would that be too risky?
- Duiker and African tree pangolin.
- Duiker and primates: not entirely uncommon, but would shy duikers not be stressed out by sometimes loud and busy primates?
chaotic_froggie
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I’ve seen duikers mixed with cranes, so I think other large birds should work.
I think the raccoons and skunks could work, i’ve seen them mixed before. Same could be said for the pronghorn, bison, white-tailed deer, and watipi deer.
4- the turkeys would cause problems for the robins. This mix wouldn't work.
Black and Red-flanked Duikers both work in aviaries, with birds of all sizes. I'm not sure about the pangolin mix, and primates will definitely work with duikers.
I know Caldwell Zoo mixes (or mixed) their colobuses with their yellow backed duikers, I'm not sure how well it worked though
Colobus are one of the quieter, more docile, and most arboreal, African primate species. I think this is the safest primate to put a Duiker in a mix with. Wolfs Guenon and Debrazza Monkey both can work well also.
Earlier today I did some browsing in the AZA Ungulate TAGs Mixed-Species Manual 2017 (which can be easily found online).
Based on that work it seems that duikers with different kinds of birds (including larger starlings, pigeon, hornbills and turacos) will likely work.
With regards to primates that work does mention that issues have arisen when mixing duiker with more high-strung primates like guenons. But it also mentioned that mixing small antelopes with colobus does not always work out.
Did you find any instances of ground birds, like congo peafowl, mixed with Duiker?
The AZA document mentions mixed with guineafowl, ducks and cranes.
Congo peafowl are perhaps a bit too rare though to risk such a mix though.
Would these combinations work?
Western Lowland Gorilla, Patas Monkey
Asian Palm Civet, Indian Gharial
Hippopotamus, African Fish Eagle
African Elephant, Black-Backed Jackal
Snowy Egret, Pied-Billed Grebe, Forster's Tern, American Avocet, Black Oystercatcher, Ruddy Turnstone, Day Octopus, Bat Star
Collared Peccary, Black-Tailed Jackrabbit, Turkey Vulture, Burrowing Owl, Thick-Billed Parrot, Greater Roadrunner, White-Winged Dove
White Rhinoceros, Bontebok, Impala, Vervet Monkey, Secretary Bird, Blue Crane
Western Lowland Gorilla, Patas Monkey
Asian Palm Civet, Indian Gharial
Hippopotamus, African Fish Eagle
African Elephant, Black-Backed Jackal
Snowy Egret, Pied-Billed Grebe, Forster's Tern, American Avocet, Black Oystercatcher, Ruddy Turnstone, Day Octopus, Bat Star
Collared Peccary, Black-Tailed Jackrabbit, Turkey Vulture, Burrowing Owl, Thick-Billed Parrot, Greater Roadrunner, White-Winged Dove
White Rhinoceros, Bontebok, Impala, Vervet Monkey, Secretary Bird, Blue Crane
for number 4, i think the jackals may be stressed, same with number 3
A 5,000 square foot indoor, walk-through Rainforest Aviary with the following-
(Note- visitors will not be able to share space with the Porcupine or Chevrotain, but will be able to with the bats and all the birds)
1.1 Indian Crested Porcupine
1.1 Greater Malayan Chevrotain
X.1 Raggiana Bird of Paradise
1.1 Hooded Pitta
1.1 Blue-faced Honeyeater
0.0.X Metallic Starling
2.2 Bali Mynah
1.1 Pheasant Pigeon
3.3 Nicobar Pigeon
2.2.X Rodrigues Fruit Bat
2.0 Beautiful Fruit Dove
2.0 Black-naped Fruit Dove
1.1 White-winged Wood Duck
1.1 Mindadao Bleeding Heart Dove
3.5 Crested Wood Partridge
2.2 Asian Fairy Bluebird
3.3 Painted Stork
0.0.4 White-breasted Wood Swallow
(Note- visitors will not be able to share space with the Porcupine or Chevrotain, but will be able to with the bats and all the birds)
1.1 Indian Crested Porcupine
1.1 Greater Malayan Chevrotain
X.1 Raggiana Bird of Paradise
1.1 Hooded Pitta
1.1 Blue-faced Honeyeater
0.0.X Metallic Starling
2.2 Bali Mynah
1.1 Pheasant Pigeon
3.3 Nicobar Pigeon
2.2.X Rodrigues Fruit Bat
2.0 Beautiful Fruit Dove
2.0 Black-naped Fruit Dove
1.1 White-winged Wood Duck
1.1 Mindadao Bleeding Heart Dove
3.5 Crested Wood Partridge
2.2 Asian Fairy Bluebird
3.3 Painted Stork
0.0.4 White-breasted Wood Swallow
This mix seems realistic enough to work, and I've seen a some of the species listed here mixed in with each other before.
I'm working on a Horn of Africa themed exhibit, and want people's thoughts on the following species sharing a 20 plus acre yard.
1.5 Grevy's Zebra
5.0 Nyala (or 1.8 Mountain Nyala if acquirable)
1.6 Masai Giraffe (alternative to nubian)
1.3 Eastern Black Rhinoceros
1.6 Gerenuk
2.2 Ostrich
1.11 Soemmerring's Gazelle
1.11 Speke's Gazelle
5.0 Lesser Kudu
1.4 Waterbuck
1.5 Fringe-eared Oryx
Anything else managed by the AZA that could be added?
1.5 Grevy's Zebra
5.0 Nyala (or 1.8 Mountain Nyala if acquirable)
1.6 Masai Giraffe (alternative to nubian)
1.3 Eastern Black Rhinoceros
1.6 Gerenuk
2.2 Ostrich
1.11 Soemmerring's Gazelle
1.11 Speke's Gazelle
5.0 Lesser Kudu
1.4 Waterbuck
1.5 Fringe-eared Oryx
Anything else managed by the AZA that could be added?
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Ayala can be incorporated with other animals, but this many may stress them out. As for the black rhino, I would definitely not mix them, they are incredibly unpredictable, rowdy, and dangerous
Same main things that I picked out, hopefully someone else can confirm the rest?
1.) I believe mix has been done before at Louisville?
6.) I would not do that, there ate so many ways this could go wrong.
7.) Mixing small monkeys doesn't seem like a good idea. Secretary birds are not the best animal to mix in general, and mixing birds with rhinos usually isn't a good idea
Would it really stress out Nyala in such a large yard? There would be plenty of spaces for any of the ungulates to escape a stressor.
I'm not sure I have the knowledge to answer that