Mixed species exhibit ideas
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Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Just guessing on this, but I dont think this would go down very well.
I would be very worried about the warthogs wellbeing.
Both species really! A large male warthog could kill a ratel...
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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I guess you could be right, but my money would always be on the ratel
RockWallaby
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These are some of my ideas:
1. Mountain tapir with Northern or Southern pudu
2. Sumatran rhinoceros and Reeve's muntjac*
3. An Eucalyptus Forest dome with an exhibit for koalas and red-necked wallabies, and some free-flying birds (small finches, some parrots, lyrebirds...) and flying foxes
4. An indoor exhibit for Antarctic (or Subantarctic) penguins and some terns (and maybe gulls)
5. Galapagos giant tortoises in an walk-through aviary with some Galapagos finches*
6. An indoor mountain exhibit for dall sheeps, mountain goats, maybe squirrels and/or marmots and some free-flying small birds
7. A nocturnal exhibit for North Island brown kiwis and kakapos (and maybe tuataras)*
8. Rock cavies in an aviary with some Caatinga/Cerrado small birds (tanagers, pigeons, tinamous...)
9. Giant anteaters, Gray brockets, Greater rheas and Pampas deers
10. An aviary for Brazilian mergansers, tanagers, pigeons and turtles*
11. Ground pangolins, dik-diks and some small African birds in an aviary
12. Southern three-banded armadillos and great potoos in an indoor nocturnal exhibit
12. Southern cassowaries in an indoor exhibit with free-flying birds and flying foxes
13. Dromedary camels, addaxes, Somali wild donkeys and Barbary macaques
14. Barbary macaques and mouflons
15. A tundra-themed aviary for Arctic hares, ptarmigans and other tundra small birds*
16. An aqua-terrarium/aviary for agoutis and iguanas in the land areas, tanagers, motmots, pigeons and two-toed sloths in the tree areas and some Amazon fish and turtles in the water area. (would be similar to penguins and/or puffin exhibits around the world)
17. Sichuan takins and red pandas
18. Gemsboks, springboks, black wildebeest, ostrich and Cape mountain zebra
* - These ones I know that would be unlikely or impossible to happens, because these species are very rare in zoos or aren't kept in captivity
1. Mountain tapir with Northern or Southern pudu
2. Sumatran rhinoceros and Reeve's muntjac*
3. An Eucalyptus Forest dome with an exhibit for koalas and red-necked wallabies, and some free-flying birds (small finches, some parrots, lyrebirds...) and flying foxes
4. An indoor exhibit for Antarctic (or Subantarctic) penguins and some terns (and maybe gulls)
5. Galapagos giant tortoises in an walk-through aviary with some Galapagos finches*
6. An indoor mountain exhibit for dall sheeps, mountain goats, maybe squirrels and/or marmots and some free-flying small birds
7. A nocturnal exhibit for North Island brown kiwis and kakapos (and maybe tuataras)*
8. Rock cavies in an aviary with some Caatinga/Cerrado small birds (tanagers, pigeons, tinamous...)
9. Giant anteaters, Gray brockets, Greater rheas and Pampas deers
10. An aviary for Brazilian mergansers, tanagers, pigeons and turtles*
11. Ground pangolins, dik-diks and some small African birds in an aviary
12. Southern three-banded armadillos and great potoos in an indoor nocturnal exhibit
12. Southern cassowaries in an indoor exhibit with free-flying birds and flying foxes
13. Dromedary camels, addaxes, Somali wild donkeys and Barbary macaques
14. Barbary macaques and mouflons
15. A tundra-themed aviary for Arctic hares, ptarmigans and other tundra small birds*
16. An aqua-terrarium/aviary for agoutis and iguanas in the land areas, tanagers, motmots, pigeons and two-toed sloths in the tree areas and some Amazon fish and turtles in the water area. (would be similar to penguins and/or puffin exhibits around the world)
17. Sichuan takins and red pandas
18. Gemsboks, springboks, black wildebeest, ostrich and Cape mountain zebra
* - These ones I know that would be unlikely or impossible to happens, because these species are very rare in zoos or aren't kept in captivity
This will almost certainly go wrong, gibbons may be killed by otters, gibbons might kill otters (especially pups) and the tapirs and otters would probably harass each other.
1 and 3: depends a lot on wether the birds are pinioned or not. In aviaries this might work very well but in open exhibits the pinioned birds will probably not breed and might even be killed by the hippo in the first one. Marabou might also be troublesome, but this is no guarantee for failure.
2: Oxpeckers can keep wounds open with their pecking, so this is something to watch out for.
4: Don't know how the hyraxes react to these reptiles, but besides that I think similar things have been done already
5: I would think platypus are already hard enough to keep and breed on their own, let alone in the presence of hyperactive turtles (in my memory at least).
6: I would be worried about diseases carried over from the other species to the koala and the kookaburras eating chicks.
7: Has been done numerous times
8: Personally no idea about how lyrebirds do in captivity, let alone in mixed exhibits.
9: kestrels have been mixed with other species before and so have herons and swans. Kestrels with swans would probably be fine and herons with swans might be (chicks could be preyed on). The turtles probably wouldn't kill anything or be killed but aggression and harassing (both ways) is not unlikely.
10: Don't know, wouldn't take the risk myself
11: This would probably work, king vultures have been mixed with other species (including ibises, ducks, flamingoes, penguins, parrots and other vultures) before and this seems to go well.
12: I guess this would work
13: Seems risky, and at least the skua's are not really animals I would recommend in captivity
14: It might work and it might not. The fish might become stressed by swimming/diving birds.
15: No idea
16: I guess it might work if the vanga are capable of handling captivity and are not stressed out by the hoopoe's.
17: Seems like snack time for the snakes, and don't forget things like disease transfer and possible slightly different environmental requirements. If the snakes don't live in cloud forests like the frogs, chances are any attempt at combining them might result in an intermediate environment where neither species is fully satisfied.
18: Seems like a bad idea. I also couldn't find directly wether the whiptails are only found west of the Andes, because this would mean that the two species might never meet in the wild and actually live in slightly different environments. When it comes to reptiles, small differences can be of huge importance for certain species (especially when it comes to breeding).
19: The parrots would almost certainly harass or at least stress out the other birds. The colobus might be a threat to all birds and might cause trouble with male bongo.
20: Seems like a recipe for stress and aggression.
21: Again loads of stress and aggression probably, possibly even deads
22: Cranes and mongoose seems a bad idea, the rest depends a bit though mongoose can be a pain in the ass in mixed exhibits. Without them this would probably work (preferably in an aviary for the welfare of the cranes) if you include spaces that only the cranes can acces.
23: I'm quite curious about this one actually, and not 100% sure that the giraffes would see the small jackals as a treat as long as they keep their distance from the young giraffes.
Do you think that a mix between any Giraffe species,Kenyan impala,Roan antelope,Common Ostrich and Marabou stork will work out in a feasible manner just asking.
Pinioned birds and hoofstock is just a bad idea (especially large birds) due to trampling and stress. Storks in particular often also fail to breed well when pinioned, probably partially due to the fact that storks nest in trees. The rest could work in theory depending on the individuals and exhibit itself of-course.
Well in that case I will remove the marabous from the roster and will keep the remaining species where they are.
1: Pudu can be very shy and not every attempt at mixing them works, but they have been kept with tapirs in some places like Wuppertal so it should be possible.
2: In theory probably yes (Indian rhino with muntjak has been done)
3: I'd worry about disease transmission from the birds and bats in the case of the koalas, as it's near impossible to give a koala medicine due to their diet. The wallabies are a whole different case, as koalas have been combined with certain ground-dwelling marsupials before with (breeding) succes.
4: I'd be cautious with birds that tend to prey on chicks/eggs from penguins, but small species like inca-terns should work.
5: I don't see any problems with this one
6: I don't know how well the goats and sheep combine, but the rest seems great
7: I though kiwi breeding was kinda hard, so I don't know how well they'd do in a mixed exhibit actually.
8: This should work fine without much problems, except maybe the tinamous as the cavies might be a bit to energetic for certain tinamous (some species are quite shy). This could probably be solved easily with an area where the cavies can not come.
9: Besides me not knowing anything about how the two deer species react to other species, I do remember hearing something on this forum about parasites or illnesses related to brocket deer and pampas deer outside their native range.
10: I suspect the turtles might prove problematic to the mergansers (and vice-versa maybe) depending on the species of turtle
11: The pangolins might cause problems, though I don't know wether there has been any recent attempt at mixing pangolins.
12: This might work, I don't think they would bother each other
13: Dromedary and wild asses can both be troublesome in mixed exhibits so care must be taken with such setups. I've known a donkey for example that was killed by a dromedary whilst wild asses can be very aggressive to other species and a male addax might be targeted depending on the individual.
14: Doesn't seem much different from the mix with barbary sheep in my opinion.
15: Why not
16: The only thing I'm worried about are the turtles and fishes, as this combination can often cause stress for both sides with fish like arowana, arapaima and large catfish.
17: I believe this should work fine
18: Black wildebeest can be very aggressive and some mountain zebra are also very troublesome in mixed exhibits. On the other hand springbok and ostrich are a bit more sensitive. I'd recommend leaving at least one of the aggressive species out unless a ton of space is available.
Some readers of this thread may be interested that Zoolex just posted one of the most complex mixed-species exhibits: Zoo Magdeburg mixing African elephants with 11 very diverse birds and mammals.
ZooLex Exhibit - Africambo: Elephants and cohabiting species
ZooLex Exhibit - Africambo: Elephants and cohabiting species
Now that is one heck of a mixed species exhibit.
There is an exhibit that mixes almost all these species in Belo Horizonte zoo. There are giant anteaters, grey brocket deers and greater rheas, but in place of the pampa deers they have tapirs.
I have more mixed species ideas:
1. Patas Monkey, Leopard Tortoise, Greater Flamingo, White-Faced Whistling Duck, African Pygmy Goose, White-Breasted Cormorant, African Sacred Ibis (birds get an island surrounded by deep water)
2. African Fish Eagle, Yellow-Billed Stork, Goliath Heron (fish eagles have been mixed with storks before)
saddle-billed stork (Ephippiorhynchus senegalensis) & African fish eagle (Haliaeetus vocifer) - ZooChat
3. White-Nosed Coati, Chaco Tortoise, Capybara, Nutria, Giant Anteater,
4. Andean Condor, Greater Rhea, Wattled Currasow
5. Short-Beaked Echidna, Frill-Necked Lizard, Shingleback Skink
6. Nile Crocodile, Hammerkop, Egyptian Plover (can fly to escape crocodiles and have pond only avaliable to them.
7. Nile Monitor, African Spurred Tortoise, Red-Flanked Duiker
8. Egyptian Fruit Bat, Helmeted Guineafowl, White-Faced Bee-Eater
9. African Lion, Sociable Weaver (maybe not a good idea, but whatever)
10. Blue Wildebeest, Topi, Springbok, Kori Bustard, Northern Ground Hornbill
11. Black-Backed Jackal, Common Barn Owl (roosts are high above the ground)
12. Gaur, Chital, Blackbuck, Green Peafowl, Sarus Crane, Indian Vulture, Cattle Egret, Himilayan Monal, Bar-Headed Goose, Red-Crested Pochard, Indian Softshell Turtle
13. Tasmanian Devil, Eastern Gray Kangaroo
14. Red Kangaroo, Emu, Dromedary Camel, Red-Necked Pandemelon, Southern Hairy-Nosed Wombat, Lace Monitor
1. Patas Monkey, Leopard Tortoise, Greater Flamingo, White-Faced Whistling Duck, African Pygmy Goose, White-Breasted Cormorant, African Sacred Ibis (birds get an island surrounded by deep water)
2. African Fish Eagle, Yellow-Billed Stork, Goliath Heron (fish eagles have been mixed with storks before)
saddle-billed stork (Ephippiorhynchus senegalensis) & African fish eagle (Haliaeetus vocifer) - ZooChat
3. White-Nosed Coati, Chaco Tortoise, Capybara, Nutria, Giant Anteater,
4. Andean Condor, Greater Rhea, Wattled Currasow
5. Short-Beaked Echidna, Frill-Necked Lizard, Shingleback Skink
6. Nile Crocodile, Hammerkop, Egyptian Plover (can fly to escape crocodiles and have pond only avaliable to them.
7. Nile Monitor, African Spurred Tortoise, Red-Flanked Duiker
8. Egyptian Fruit Bat, Helmeted Guineafowl, White-Faced Bee-Eater
9. African Lion, Sociable Weaver (maybe not a good idea, but whatever)
10. Blue Wildebeest, Topi, Springbok, Kori Bustard, Northern Ground Hornbill
11. Black-Backed Jackal, Common Barn Owl (roosts are high above the ground)
12. Gaur, Chital, Blackbuck, Green Peafowl, Sarus Crane, Indian Vulture, Cattle Egret, Himilayan Monal, Bar-Headed Goose, Red-Crested Pochard, Indian Softshell Turtle
13. Tasmanian Devil, Eastern Gray Kangaroo
14. Red Kangaroo, Emu, Dromedary Camel, Red-Necked Pandemelon, Southern Hairy-Nosed Wombat, Lace Monitor
I know a lot has been contributed to this thread already, but an exhibit with Gabon talapoins and Peters Duikers would be an interesting Idea, Chiloglanis cameronensis could swim in a surrounding waterway, as upside down catfish are such a delight to see. Just a thought.
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1. I'd be a bit worried for the smaller ducks but that could work.
2. Maybe the herons might be a bit iffy but should work.
3. No reason why it wouldn't.
4. If you could build an aviary large enough for the rhea then yes.
5. Lizards may get nibbled a bit so I'm not sure.
6. This was debated on a design an exhibit thread and the conclusion was, no, that would probably not be a good idea.
7. The tortoises should be fine although the duikers and monitors just doesn't seem like it would work to me, maybe remove one or the other.
8. Yes
9. That has been tried and hasn't worked. A bit of advise, just stay away from big cat mixed exhibits, they won't work.
10. Yep should work.
11. Jackals have been mixed with vultures so yes possibly.
12. Is this supposed to be an aviary? Because if so then that would have to be a VERY large aviary but in theory it would work. If not then try to stay away from pinioning vultures as it isn't allowed in Europe anymore and most zoochatters don't like it (if not all). If you remove the vultures though this will work as an open exhibit.
13. Ehhhhh... no, that doesn't sound like a good idea.
14. For me probably wouldn't work, the camels are a lot larger than every thing else and the monitors will just cause a nuisance.
1. I'd be a bit worried for the smaller ducks but that could work.
2. Maybe the herons might be a bit iffy but should work.
3. No reason why it wouldn't.
4. If you could build an aviary large enough for the rhea then yes.
5. Lizards may get nibbled a bit so I'm not sure.
6. This was debated on a design an exhibit thread and the conclusion was, no, that would probably not be a good idea.
7. The tortoises should be fine although the duikers and monitors just doesn't seem like it would work to me, maybe remove one or the other.
8. Yes
9. That has been tried and hasn't worked. A bit of advise, just stay away from big cat mixed exhibits, they won't work.
10. Yep should work.
11. Jackals have been mixed with vultures so yes possibly.
12. Is this supposed to be an aviary? Because if so then that would have to be a VERY large aviary but in theory it would work. If not then try to stay away from pinioning vultures as it isn't allowed in Europe anymore and most zoochatters don't like it (if not all). If you remove the vultures though this will work as an open exhibit.
13. Ehhhhh... no, that doesn't sound like a good idea.
14. For me probably wouldn't work, the camels are a lot larger than every thing else and the monitors will just cause a nuisance.
My local zoo is going to build an exhibit next year with Chilean Flamingos, Hoffmann's Two-toed Sloth, Southern Pudu, Sun Parakeets, macaws, and turtles.
Do you think it’s possible to mix Humboldt Penguins, Inca terns,Grey gulls and Magellanic flightless steamer ducks in the most feasible manner possible?.