Monkeys and antelopes have been a proven mix before. Same goes for Duikers.
If you have a lot of mixes you're curious about, maybe you could upload them as a list, that way we can check them all at once
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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Monkeys and antelopes have been a proven mix before. Same goes for Duikers.
If you have a lot of mixes you're curious about, maybe you could upload them as a list, that way we can check them all at once
Van Beal
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Alright. Definitely will do that in the future. So no problem mixing the De Brazzas and colobus?
I agree with Mr. Gharial, putting them on a list would be better both for quickness in answers and for space on the thread
Yeah no problems as long as they got plenty of space to avoid each other
Would a mix of Balabac chevrotain and Philippine scops-owl cause any problems?
I'll quote Wikipedia for you:
"These carnivorous owls prey upon animals such as insects and small mammals.
[…]They are ferocious feeders and specialize in tearing flesh. Their raptorial claws, curved bill and excellent hearing and sighting skill make them powerful predators. They have been observed to kill their victim by crushing its head, then breaking every other bone of the body to finally swallow the animal whole. "
The chevrotain might not be on the list of its menu, but do you really want to find out? It sounds really painful...
Scops Owls are too tiny to cause any issues with mouse deer. Should work well.
I read the same thing, but also read that they have been held with together pigeons and partridges on ZTL. Thought I might as well ask to be sure
Late on this, but to add on some: the zebras and male Dromedary are likely to rough up the warthogs, hyraxes, mongooses, and probably the porcupines and even springbok. Also giraffe/meerkat has been attempted in the past which resulted in the giraffes stomping on them. I would be concerned about deliberate trampling from most of the hoofstock and ostriches towards the mongooses. Porcupines would be a risk due to burrowing behavior and potential quillings, especially for the warthogs which are curious and will use burrows. Warthog/porcupine has generally not worked in the past. Properly containing the hyraxes and mongooses would probably be extremely difficult.
Platypusboy
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I'm asking this question again because I've found some new evidence for it's working capabilities. So my original question was can Giant otters be mixed with birds, which was then considered to be a bad idea. But then I came across Leipzig zoos Gondwanaland dome which has Giant otters in it along side primates and free flying birds. However, I couldn't figure out if the enclosure has a net over it to prevent the birds from going in. From my research (Zoochat photos, the zoos own videos, E-mailing the zoo (Never replied)) it seems there is no net. If anyone knows about the enclosure more than I do then please tell me.
Haliaeetus
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It may be possible to display birds and giant otters in the same exhibit, if the birds aren't ground dwelling species.
In Beauval the Dôme (giant greenhouse) hosts free-flying birds (ibises, spoonbills, glossy starlings, touracos, pigeons...) AND enclosures with giant otters, but also crocs and Komodo dragons, without too many casualities.
Van Beal
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With the Komodo and the crocs I’m not entirely surprised by the casualties, assuming most, if not all, casualties were birds?
Platypusboy
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Gondwanaland apparently also has Blue-throated piping guans, Crested partridges, Peacock-pheasants an many species of waterfowl.
Haliaeetus
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Yes, I talk about birds.
In the Dôme, the birds aren't really numerous (a few dozens) but they breed (it's the case of the Ibises and Spoonbills, at least) and haven't been removed, so I assume there isn't too much damage. They are fed in safe places, and haven't probably many reasons to venture into the enclosures of the otters, crocs or Komodo dragons.
The Crocs (Malayan False Gharial and Mississippi Alligators, among others) live also with turtles and many fish.
The trick with Gondwanaland is in the design. The otter habitat is tucked away in the corner, and the rest of the greenhouse has a LOT of water and other spaces. Ground birds like space to walk around in, so they'll stay either on the forest floor or seek out the open habitats of the tapirs or hippos
Here's a page about how mongooses and meerkats have been/are mixed with other species. Not all of them I think would work though. Mixed exhibit Herpestids
Mixed with porcupines is the most common one, but can also be mixed with Aardvarks and large tortoises
Platypusboy
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So if I were to recreate these conditions, then it could work?
If the exhibit is unattractive to the birds it should be fine, but I would still go for the BZ's Caiman option (Separating the exhibit with hidden nets)
Aardwolf
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I'd agree. There's no version of this where you would want birds to actually be sharing a space with giant otters. You just want the illusion of them sharing a space. Very fine mesh and controlled sightlines will do the trick without offering any unintended enrichment to the otters