Mixed species exhibit ideas

Mr Gharial said:
Even if there are only smaller birds that would stick to the higher vegetation?
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The Komodo/very small passerine mix has been tried before (example, Virginia Aquarium mixing their dragon with Javan sparrow). The extent to which it works depends largely on how you define success. Provided you have an adult Komodo that's largely land-bound, the birds should have plenty of options for flying above and around them. A bird that falls to the ground, say after getting stunned by a window collision or something, is getting eaten. I suppose you had ask if that's any worse welfare per se than keeping fish on display with crocodilians or sharks where the risk of getting eaten is arguably greater, since they're always sharing the same space

Turtles, on the other hand, will be Komodo toys
 
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Mr Gharial said:
In a very large aviary (like Antwerp's buffalo aviary). Barbary macaques, Western roe deer and Auodad (Auodads and Roe deer separated from each other, but not the Macaques), as well as a large amount of birds;
Barbary partridge, Eurasian stone-curlew, Northern bald ibis, Purple heron, Iberian azure-winged magpies, Egyptian vulture, Rüppel's griffon vulture, Marbled duck, Tufted duck, Eurasian collared dove, European turtle dove, and a group of smaller birds (Golden oriole, Bee-eater, Wagtail, Hoopoe).
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Roe deer not. They are extremely difficult to keep, being stress prone and selective eaters. That is why you almost never see them in zoos, although they are the commonest deer in Europe.

Birds and aoudad - yes. Macaques and aoudad and possibly fallow deer - yes. Macaques and birds - difficult. Birds would need plenty of escape room, and macaques can climb over the net of the aviary. Small songbrids and magpies and purple herons - problematic.

Mr Gharial said:
Would a mix of Komodo dragon, Snake-necked turtle, Pied imperial pigeon and a group of small finches and lizards work in a heavily forested greenhouse?
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Komodo dragon are quite often kept with finches. Pied imperial pigeon might work, because they are very tree-living. However, I am afraid that temperature suitable for Komodos would become far too high in the upper level, where the pigeons would stay. Additionally, a greenhouse would be uncomfortable for people to enter. Turtles - would require an very, very big pond, otherwise could be eaten.
 
Some zoos keep Komodo Dragon in tropical halls with a variety of free-flying birds - of course the birds have tons of space to themselves and are not constantly sharing space with the Komodos.
 
Would you be able to mix Grass snake with a larger fish like Huchen, or would the snake become fish chow?
 
Would black rhino and warthog work together in a mixed species environment? Not sure if this was asked already or not.
 
StoppableSan said:
Would black rhino and warthog work together in a mixed species environment? Not sure if this was asked already or not.
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Perhaps with the right rhino, but likely not in the exhibit size you are imagining. Black rhino are very difficult to mix, many individuals are simply too aggressive even in large exhibits (Beekse Bergen tried and failed for example, and even San Diego Safari Park has had troubles in their dozen-hectare enclosures).
 
Red-legged Seriema and Andean Condor?
I feel like based on the scavenging nature of the condor this might work.
 
Van Beal said:
Red-legged Seriema and Andean Condor?
I feel like based on the scavenging nature of the condor this might work.
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I wouldn't risk it. Condors are far bigger in terms of weight and overall bulk (a male Condor can be 5-6 times the weight of a seriema), and while they might not outright kill the seriemas the stress induced by their presence would likely cause issues. Condors are bold and aggressive birds that are typically not recommended to be mixed with other species. They aren't pure scavengers either, they are documented to occasionally kill small animals.
If you want to mix seriemas with a bird of prey, go for King Vulture. Far less risky and a mix that has usually worked well in the past.
 
Great Argus said:
I wouldn't risk it. Condors are far bigger in terms of weight and overall bulk (a male Condor can be 5-6 times the weight of a seriema), and while they might not outright kill the seriemas the stress induced by their presence would likely cause issues. Condors are bold and aggressive birds that are typically not recommended to be mixed with other species. They aren't pure scavengers either, they are documented to occasionally kill small animals.
If you want to mix seriemas with a bird of prey, go for King Vulture. Far less risky and a mix that has usually worked well in the past.
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I've seen for many years a mix of Black Vulture, Red-headed Vulture, Scarlet Ibis and Andean Condor.
The Ibises bred successfully, their chicks were raised by the parents in the main aviary, while the other species were present.
 
Haliaeetus said:
I've seen for many years a mix of Black Vulture, Red-headed Vulture, Scarlet Ibis and Andean Condor.
The Ibises bred successfully, their chicks were raised by the parents in the main aviary, while the other species were present.
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That's an interesting mix. I'd imagine the ibises are relatively numerous though? That would help diffuse aggression to tolerable levels.
 
Here are a few.
1. Emu, Red Kangaroo, Western Gray Kangaroo, Bennett's Wallaby, Wallaroo.
2. Impala, Plains Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, Common Eland, Ostrich, Bontebok, Sitatunga, Thomson's Gazelle, Fringe-Eared Oryx, Blue Wildebeest.
3. Bornean Orangutan, Sumatran Orangutan, Siamang, White-Cheeked Gibbon, Asian Small-Clawed Otter.
 
Jacob F said:
Here are a few.
1. Emu, Red Kangaroo, Western Gray Kangaroo, Bennett's Wallaby, Wallaroo.
2. Impala, Plains Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, Common Eland, Ostrich, Bontebok, Sitatunga, Thomson's Gazelle, Fringe-Eared Oryx, Blue Wildebeest.
3. Bornean Orangutan, Sumatran Orangutan, Siamang, White-Cheeked Gibbon, Asian Small-Clawed Otter.
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Pretty sure I've seen that first one actually. I'm sure it work fine.

In the third one I'd be most concerned about mixing the two gibbon species. Ignoring that I'd be fine but the orangs WILL hybridize.
 
Jacob F said:
Here are a few.
1. Emu, Red Kangaroo, Western Gray Kangaroo, Bennett's Wallaby, Wallaroo.
2. Impala, Plains Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, Common Eland, Ostrich, Bontebok, Sitatunga, Thomson's Gazelle, Fringe-Eared Oryx, Blue Wildebeest.
3. Bornean Orangutan, Sumatran Orangutan, Siamang, White-Cheeked Gibbon, Asian Small-Clawed Otter.
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  1. Seems doable, but seems like a nightmare to manage.
  2. The guests will be seeing stripes, but the animals will be seeing stars. Also a risk of hybridization.
  3. Another hybridization risk, and I don't trust ASCO's with any kind of primate.
 
Corangurilla said:
  1. Seems doable, but seems like a nightmare to manage.
  2. The guests will be seeing stripes, but the animals will be seeing stars. Also a risk of hybridization.
  3. Another hybridization risk, and I don't trust ASCO's with any kind of primate.
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I've seen ASCOs mixed with gibbons successfully before at a couple of different facilities.
 
Jacob F said:
Here are a few.
1. Emu, Red Kangaroo, Western Gray Kangaroo, Bennett's Wallaby, Wallaroo.
2. Impala, Plains Zebra, Grevy's Zebra, Common Eland, Ostrich, Bontebok, Sitatunga, Thomson's Gazelle, Fringe-Eared Oryx, Blue Wildebeest.
3. Bornean Orangutan, Sumatran Orangutan, Siamang, White-Cheeked Gibbon, Asian Small-Clawed Otter.
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The zebras and orangutans would hybridize. That being said, I think a "bachelorette" herd of the three zebra species would be interesting.
 
I understand. Here are some more.
1. Baird's Tapir, Crested Screamer, Capybara, Giant Anteater
2. Yak, Chinese Goral, Sichuan Takin
 
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