Minimal risk of hybridising, due to size difference.
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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Dr. Wolverine
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South American Exhibit:
Baird's Tapir
Giant Anteater
Capybara
Guanaco
Vicuna
Collared Peccary
Three-toed sloth
African Forests:
Bongo
Gerenuk
Lesser kudu
Sitatunga
Nyala
Red River Hog
Baird's Tapir
Giant Anteater
Capybara
Guanaco
Vicuna
Collared Peccary
Three-toed sloth
African Forests:
Bongo
Gerenuk
Lesser kudu
Sitatunga
Nyala
Red River Hog
Red Kangaroo and Bennett's Wallaby are mixed all the time.
All of these will hybridize.
Marabous and Secretary birds have trouble breeding in the same aviary. I wouldn't trust Pelicans with young birds either. Vultures are pretty chill though
AndyJ08
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Thanks! I was just wondering, but yes the birds would have access to many hidden feeders, birdhouses, and behind-the-scenes areas out of guests’ view. The squirrel monkeys would also be held differently at night.
Bactrian Deer
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1. Giant Eland, Giraffe, Springbok, Gemsbok, Grant’s Zebra, Blue Wildebeest, Abdim’s Stork, African Wooly-Necked Stork, Grey-Crowned Crane, Pink-Backed Pelican, Common Ostrich, Puku, Maccoa Duck, Swainson’s Francolin, Egyptian Goose - 20 acres with about 1 acre in total of bird safe zones.
2. Pygmy Hippopotamus, Syke’s Monkey
3. Spotted-Necked Otter, L’Hoest’s Monkey
4. Great Flamingo, Lesser Flamingo, Maccoa Duck, African Skimmer, Red-Knobbed Coot, Common Snipe, Black-Winged Stilt, Cape Teal, Red-Billed Duck, Eurasian Curlew
2. Pygmy Hippopotamus, Syke’s Monkey
3. Spotted-Necked Otter, L’Hoest’s Monkey
4. Great Flamingo, Lesser Flamingo, Maccoa Duck, African Skimmer, Red-Knobbed Coot, Common Snipe, Black-Winged Stilt, Cape Teal, Red-Billed Duck, Eurasian Curlew
Haliaeetus
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1- I would avoid all the bird species (except the Ostriches, and perhaps the Francolins / Egyptian Geese is there are appropriate spaces closed to the hoofstock) unless the exhibit is in a covered aviary (like the Hippo complex in Beauval).
Pinioning birds isn't good for animal welfare, as well as the large ungulates could hurt the birds.
2- OK
3- Definitively no.
4- OK. But I don't know if the Skimmers can be held in captivity (maybe someone has more information about it).
I know pinioning of birds is no longer recommended in Europe, but it is still common in America, for better or for worse. Of these birds, the francolin and duck seem a bit too small, but the others would mix fine with hoofstock.
Spotted-Necked Otters have been mixed with Allen’s Swamp Monkey and Schmidt’s Red-Tailed Monkey at the San Diego Zoo for decades, with no problems as far as I know. I don’t see how the outcome would be much different for L’hosts Monkey.
Yeah I'd cut all birds but the Ostrich; the pelicans, storks, and cranes could work in a separated pond. The duck and francolin would be easily lost.
Skimmers have never been kept with any real success.
There have been problems iirc - primarily deaths of monkey infants caused by the otters from time to time and occasional problems over space. Most mixes with primates and otters are a bit risky regardless of species, and plenty have ended rather ugly.
Nile Hippo Expert
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I agree with you on that. Ostriches are the only one of those species of birds that would really fit into a mixed mammal species exhibit like that. I do think that Helmeted Guineafowl could also share space with those mammals though.
Better than the original listed species, though still at some risk of getting trampled and particularly predated in a 20 acre exhibit.
Columbus Zoo manages guineafowl with a variety of hoofstock (along with ostriches, Gray Crowned Cranes and Saddle-billed Storks) on 10 acres.
“Manages” is a stretch… Domesticated guineafowl are often seen as disposable space fillers in zoos — when they inevitably die, they are just replaced with more. Most facilities with guineas in open-range setting like these readily lose them to predation, trampling, etc. They’re either replaced immediately or it’s left to be survival of the fittest — the smartest, fastest ones survive and continue on while the others are picked off one by one, and however many they have left is however many they have left.
The idea of creating a massive aviary over an African savannah to mix mammals and free-flying birds is intriguing...
I've been thinking a lot lately about orangutan mixes. I know at least two zoos mix orangutan and siamang. Can orangutan be mixed with other monkeys such as langurs? Have they been mixed with other gibbons? Gibbon-monkey mixes are pretty much impossible, right?
I've been thinking a lot lately about orangutan mixes. I know at least two zoos mix orangutan and siamang. Can orangutan be mixed with other monkeys such as langurs? Have they been mixed with other gibbons? Gibbon-monkey mixes are pretty much impossible, right?
Bactrian Deer
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