Galah is probably a bit overbearing for the finches, but it might work. I don't know if they'd bug the koalas or not.
Most likely, for the sizes of the species involved. A bigger species of mudskipper would probably be fine.
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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Galah is probably a bit overbearing for the finches, but it might work. I don't know if they'd bug the koalas or not.
Most likely, for the sizes of the species involved. A bigger species of mudskipper would probably be fine.
BenFoxster
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Might be dumb questions, I know they've somewhat been done, but I'm still not sure how they work so:
1. A mixed species walkthrough aviary with various bird species, plus golden lion tamarins or white-faced saki (or both). Would the monkeys get along with the birds, or would they end up eating the eggs?
2. A mixed species walkthrough aviary with Madagascar and African birds, plus ring-tailed, black-and-white ruffed, and blue-eyed black lemurs all together. Again, would this be safe or would the lemurs be dangerous to the birds and eat their eggs? Assuming in both scenarios I want the birds to breed.
1. A mixed species walkthrough aviary with various bird species, plus golden lion tamarins or white-faced saki (or both). Would the monkeys get along with the birds, or would they end up eating the eggs?
2. A mixed species walkthrough aviary with Madagascar and African birds, plus ring-tailed, black-and-white ruffed, and blue-eyed black lemurs all together. Again, would this be safe or would the lemurs be dangerous to the birds and eat their eggs? Assuming in both scenarios I want the birds to breed.
I know Sakis, Tamarins and lemurs have been held with smaller ground birds before, through I'm not sure whether or not these are breeding. Both Tinamous and Seriemas with Sakis and Lion tamarins, and Guineafowl and storks with Lemurs. So I guess it depends what bird species you're planning.
Either way, if you give the birds enough space where the primates can't get to it should be fine
Tends to be dicier when you want to breed birds in the same exhibit as primates. Makes things far more complicated from a keeper standpoint to get safe nesting locations and sufficient food for the birds. It can be done, but arguably isn't the best option when breeding is a priority.
Osedax
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Should work, as long as the Galahs aren't too humanised.
I think a young capybara would be within the prey size range of a maned wolf.
Osedax
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What if the capybaras were non-breeding?
I'm not sure the capybaras wouldn't be stressed out living with a potentially predatory canine.
I would go with one of the more traditional mixes.
Given that the anteaters are solitary it might be possible to mix one with the capybaras and the other with the maned wolves nearby, and to bring them together only for mating.
I know this exhibit has a lot of different components to it, including some that aren't necessarily traditionally done, however I think given the large size it may be a possibility. The proposed exhibit is a 25,000 square foot walk-through aviary, however the visitor path will be elevated approx. 4-5 feet so as to separate visitors from the ground-dwelling mammals. This elevated pathway would also separate one 5,000 square foot section so as to provide the flamingos an area inaccessible to the large mammals. This would be a South American-themed aviary, with an extensive focus on wetlands areas, with a lot of trees and other plants incorporated into it. In case it matters, this would be located in a US Zoo.
The species I am proposing are, with all birds being fully-flighted:
The species I am proposing are, with all birds being fully-flighted:
- A breeding colony of approx. 20 Chilean Flamingos, who would be fully flighted but have access to their own, 5,000 square foot area void of mammals.
- 1.1 Baird's Tapir
- 1.1 Giant Anteater
- 1.2 Capybaras
- 1.1 Southern Two-toed Sloths
- 1.1 King Vultures
- 0.0.3 Yellow-Footed Tortoises
- 1.1 Grey-Winged Trumpeters
- 1.1 Wattled Curassow
- single-sex group of Roseate Spoonbills
- single-sex group of Puna Ibises
- 1.1 Crested Screamer
- 2.2 Puna Teals
- 1.1 Orinoco Geese
- 1.1 South American Comb Ducks
- 1.1 Coscoroba Swan
- A breeding flock of Blue-Throated Macaws
- 1.1 Yellow-Crowned Night Herons
- 1.1 Plush-Crested Jays
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Bactrian Deer
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The king vultures might harass most animals, like the tapirs, sloths, tortoise, and most birds.
Black-crowned Night-Herons commonly eat bird eggs and chicks, I can't imagine Yellow-crowned Night-Herons would be any different.
Interesting, I've seen them housed alongside ibises, spoonbills, and larger geese before- didn't realize there would be an issue with smaller birds. Do you forsee any issues between the other eighteen species, or should it be good if herons are omitted?
Per AZA's Raptor TAG, king vultures have been housed with a number of those species before:
https://www.avianscientific.org/_files/ugd/df9b5b_457e0316d3724ba0af554d468a21de58.pdf
I've seen them mixed with a variety of different birds as well, just make sure not to mix them in an aviary where you plan to breed anything.
Bactrian Deer
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I’d mainly be worried for the sloths and the jays.
Is it just me or does that form say the King Vultures are falconiformes?
They probably were classified that way when that was published. It was only very recently that the taxonomy of New World vultures was worked out.
That could be problematic then, as I am planning to breed the flamingos, macaws, and mammals. Some of the waterfowl and ground birds would ideally be breeding as well, but that's less important/they could be moved off exhibit during breeding season. I'm assuming this is since the vultures may predate on eggs?
Milwaukee mixed King Vulture successfully with Baird's Tapir and two species of tortoise for many years.
Oh I was referring to the night-herons. Although I'm not 100% sure I'd trust a King Vulture in a breeding setting either, tbh.
The three species have been mixed successfully before in non-breeding situations.
This is very similar to the Great South American Aviary at Doue la Fontaine, I don't know if perhaps that was some inspiration here.
The sloths I could see as being problematic simply due to difficulty of finding them, if they were allowed free roam. It would be difficult to keep tabs on them and reach them if necessary.
I'm a bit surprised you consider the more specialist Yellow-crowned to be of equal threat as the highly opportunistic Black-crowned. I'd agree caution is good in considering them, but Yellow-crown seems much less likely to be an issue.
Various jay species have been kept with King Vultures without issues. I agree the sloths might be considered interesting if spotted crawling along the ground.
They might prove interested in eggs, but I've not read any reports of them eating eggs. I'd be more concerned about nestlings, and potentially their presence proving too intimidating for other species to breed.