What about suid/tapir mixes? I always thought babirusa or warty pigs mixed with tapirs was generally considered a non-problematic mix.
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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There’s a reason you see the South American species in mixed-species habitats and with keepers working them free-contact a lot more often than with Malayans. Malayan tapirs are known to be aggressive and temperamental. I would think they would be another one where complete niche-partitioning (primates, binturongs, etc.) would more realistically result in a successful mixing with the least likelihood for severe intraspecific aggression. I know there are a handful of facilities that have Malayans mixed with suids, but my guess is that that success largely comes down to individual animals and their temperaments and could not be applied broadly. It’s not a risk that as a keeper I would feel comfortable taking.
Dierenrijk Mierlo houses Visayan warty pigs, Hog deer and Nilgai with their Indian rhinoceroses. As others have said, your specific choices of cattle and deer are quite aggressive, but very similar setups do exist with less aggressive animals
Is there some way that this combination might work for a walk-in aviary?:
New Caledonian giant day gecko, Tahitian blue lory, Guam rail, Guam kingfisher, Mariana fruit dove, white-throated ground dove, golden white-eye, bridled white-eye, Tongan megapode, many-colored fruit dove, rufous fantail, Tinian monarch, kagu, red-throated parrotfinch
I seem to remember reading that kingfishers can be very aggressive with other birds and people. I'm also skeptical about the success in housing geckos with the birds because of possible predation. Then there's also the issue of finding them, which I think might be solved by keeping a large group in the enclosure, but that I assume poses other risks.
New Caledonian giant day gecko, Tahitian blue lory, Guam rail, Guam kingfisher, Mariana fruit dove, white-throated ground dove, golden white-eye, bridled white-eye, Tongan megapode, many-colored fruit dove, rufous fantail, Tinian monarch, kagu, red-throated parrotfinch
I seem to remember reading that kingfishers can be very aggressive with other birds and people. I'm also skeptical about the success in housing geckos with the birds because of possible predation. Then there's also the issue of finding them, which I think might be solved by keeping a large group in the enclosure, but that I assume poses other risks.
Haliaeetus
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I don't see the interest. Both species don't share the same habitat, and the Gorillas would probably scare the Marmosets and/or push them towards the canopy, making them impossible to see by the guests.
Haliaeetus
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Another problem is the large number of threatened species, of high conservation value.
The combination of all the species + the guests wouldn't be optimal for the animals. More common and/or tolerant species (even in a Pacific- or Oceanian-themed aviary) would be preferred in a walk-in aviary.
Osedax
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I was thinking to display the world’s largest primate with one of the smallest.
Haliaeetus
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A long time ago there were free-ranging Goeldi's Tamarins in the Gorilla House of Beauval (but not in the Gorilla enclosure itself). Gorillas are fine with a lot of medium-sized primate species as Patas, Colobuses and Cercopithecids.
But if you want to mix Gorillas with a very small primate species, it would be better to have one of the two Talapoin species, as both come from Central Africa.
I'm just realizing how foolish I am for not thinking of that. If it wasn't open, would it work? I suppose geckos and some of the birds might try to get at any eggs but there might be ways to avoid thst problem.
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I'd suggest multiple, adjacent enclosures, with barriers designed so the exhibits seem interconnected. A lot of bird species breed better in non-mixed species exhibits anyways (or at least in mixes that don't contain species competing for nesting sites), so this would be the best option to increase flexibility and the chances of breeding success, while still providing an interesting, appealing exhibit. Another thing I don't know is whether or not there is a hybridization risk with the two white-eye species.
Really no point - the size difference would make them difficult/impossible to manage appropriately together, besides likely stressing the marmosets to death.
The geckos would be eaten by the kingfishers and Kagus, maybe the rails. The kingfisher would likely be aggressive towards the more mild-mannered species involved.
I expected there would be problems like that. It's good to have confirmation of both issues.
ZooTripper365
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African elephant, reticulated giraffe, plains zebra, guinea baboon, eland, lechwe, blesbock, cape buffalo, ostrich and many more hoofestock...
Massive cliche savannah habitat spreading over about 30 acres. Better fit for the U.S.A.
Massive cliche savannah habitat spreading over about 30 acres. Better fit for the U.S.A.
Haliaeetus
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I would avoid the baboons, they should cause trouble to the other species and/or escape.
Additionnal separate enclosures for Buffaloes, Elephants and newborns of Antelopes would be strongly advised.
ZooTripper365
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Yeah there would be seperate indoor spaces for the majority of the animals.
It should be able to work in a large enough Savanna enclosure, as Monde Sauvage holds Bongo and Lechwe (same family as the reedbuck) in their big savanna habitat. However, Bongos aren't held together with other large antelopes often, usually duikers or dikdiks
Twig Catfish isn't really big enough to mix easily here. Silver Arowana should be fine.