Mixed species exhibit ideas

Mr Gharial said:
Giant otters would absolutely harm or harass the manatees

Fox and tapir should be fine, although you would need some spots for the foxes to get away from the tapirs

Aye-Aye/Malagasy giant rat should be fine, as Amersfoort mixes Malagasy giant rats with Slow lorises and Galagos

Giant pandas really can't be mixed, they're too aggressive

As Daktari said, building an aviary with the space to house giraffes and buffaloes would have to be incredibly big and very expensive, and it would just end up still being a trampling risk to the Secretary birds
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Jersey (English Channel Islands) has mixed Aye-aye and Jumping Rat successfully.
Not only would I not trust Giant Pandas with Takin, I wouldn’t trust the Takin either!
Agree with comments above about risks to Manatees and Secretary Birds!
 
Utahraptor said:
First post in the speculative zoo design forums, and i have some mixed exhibits ideas that i've been thinking for a while, those are:

Giant otters and Amazonian manatee in a lake habitat.

Crab-eating fox and south american tapir in a tropical habitat with a sand beach.

Aye-aye and malagasy giant rat in a nocturnal house set up, with each species having an exclusive shelter for each other.

Giant panda and takin, with tha habitat having two levels: a lower part for the pandas and a higher part for the takins.

A mix between giraffes, african buffalos and secretary birds (fully able to fly) in a massive habitat. I know that secretary birds sometimes feed on baby antelopes, but I assume they wouldn't try something against a buffalo or giraffe calf. And also that the buffalos and giraffes probably woudn't bother the birds either.

So, could those work?
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For the giraffe, African Buffalo, and secretary bird mix I feel like it would be very expensive or time consuming to construct such a large aviary, especially for only one species. If anything I feel like it would work much better if you went with a more solitary hoofstock species requiring less space, such as the black rhino. Their solitary nature means you only need enough space for one or two rhinos, and would then require a smaller aviary, which may give visitors a better chance of seeing the secretary birds as well.
 
i know its not a natural mix but could okapi live with ring tailed lemurs?
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Rizz Carlton said:
There used to be a insane mixed species exhibit in Taman Safari Bogor with a group of common impala and nilgai, as well as several emus and an southern cassowary. Indonesian zoos are not known for being transparent so there's no known report of incident publicly. As of now, only the impalas and nilgai stayed.

I also thinking of a mixed species exhibit idea with Komodo dragons and birds, especially passerines and even parrots. This mix has been attempted before in Batu Secret Zoo, where a pair of hill myna was housed alongside an adult Komodo dragon, I'm not aware of the current result. I was thinking of a mix with passerines and parrots that are specifically native to the Lesser Sunda Islands (So no random exotic birds) like some species of myna/starling and yellow-crested cockatoo. Fishes and turtles are also in my mind but I think the dragons wouldn't think twice to eat them, birds that are mostly flew and perched high above in the exhibit most likely wouldn't be able to be reached by the dragons if they're fast enough. Of course, the height of the exhibit and it not being open-topped are also to consider, so please take the Komodo dragon exhibit in Taman Safari Bogor as a reference.
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In Beauval there are birds in free flight in the Dome, where there are the Komodo Dragons' open-topped enclosures, so the birds are theoretically able to land in the Dragons' enclosures.
I've already seen some Glossy Starlings foraging on the ground.
Probably the larger birds (pigeons, spoonbills...) that would make better preys are deterred to land in this place, with no food nor attractive elements for them.
 
Would a mix between cassowary and macropod (Kangaroo, wallaby, etc.) work long-term?

There was a mix with a small group of eastern grey kangaroo and an southern cassowary in Taman Safari Prigen in the past, I have no clue if there's ever any incident. Which is why I asked this question.
 
gerome said:
Actually would gharial ,mugger crocodile mix work and would they still be able to breed
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Van Beal said:
I feel like mixing two crocodilians won't end well, let alone suitable for breeding of either/both species.
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Mixing crocodilians usually doesn't end up causing too many problems. But that's usually with Alligators and Nile crocodiles. Gharials are, for crocodilians, a rather fragile species, as well as being critically endangered. So I wouldn't recommend this mix
 
Rizz Carlton said:
Would a mix between cassowary and macropod (Kangaroo, wallaby, etc.) work long-term?

There was a mix with a small group of eastern grey kangaroo and an southern cassowary in Taman Safari Prigen in the past, I have no clue if there's ever any incident. Which is why I asked this question.
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I know there's mixes between Cassowaries and smaller macropods, like Pademelons. As long as there's plenty of places for the macropods to be able to get away from the cassowaries, it should be fine
 
Mr Gharial said:
Mixing crocodilians usually doesn't end up causing too many problems. But that's usually with Alligators and Nile crocodiles. Gharials are, for crocodilians, a rather fragile species, as well as being critically endangered. So I wouldn't recommend this mix
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I don't know if this necessarily translates to them being kept well in captivity, but they are known to bask together in the wild without harming each other. Although, this might be more likely to succeed in zoos where they might have outdoor access.
 
Would large constrictors work well with tortoises? A few months ago I saw boa constrictor mixed with Chinese box turtle at Tiergarten Ulm. Would a mix with larger species (burmese python and Asian brown tortoise) work out?
 
PossumRoach said:
Would large constrictors work well with tortoises? A few months ago I saw boa constrictor mixed with Chinese box turtle at Tiergarten Ulm. Would a mix with larger species (burmese python and Asian brown tortoise) work out?
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Similar to the Komodo post I made earlier, the tortoises would have to be too large to be the Python's prey. Seeing as large Burmese pythons can eat pigs and goats, it wouldn't work with very large animals
 
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