Cody Raney
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Safari Park exhibit featuring:
Domestic Yak
Domestic Bactrian Camel
Przewalski's Horse
Bukharan Markhor
Sichuan Takin
Domestic Yak
Domestic Bactrian Camel
Przewalski's Horse
Bukharan Markhor
Sichuan Takin
Mixing equines is risky but it is possible to work. It would have to be very large with several feeding spotsSafari Park exhibit featuring:
Domestic Yak
Domestic Bactrian Camel
Przewalski's Horse
Bukharan Markhor
Sichuan Takin
Safari Park exhibit featuring:
Domestic Yak
Domestic Bactrian Camel
Przewalski's Horse
Bukharan Markhor
Sichuan Takin
The domesticated animals are intentional, Domestic Bactrian Camels are historically significant due to their use on the Silk Road, and they are extremely hardy animals, able to withstand cold as low as −22 °F in winter to 122 °F in summer. The Domestic Yak, in this case the American Yak (North American Yak - The Livestock Conservancy) is another cold hardy animal that is considered a heritage breed by The Livestock Conservancy and is listed as critical. And considering the current import laws in the US when it comes to live animals, particularly from Asia, it is far more practical to exhibit Domestic varieties. And I suspect that if you look most Bactrian Camels exhibited in the US are of the Domestic variety.Why do you want to mix domestic species with wild ones? Are the domestics supposed to be "stand-ins" for their wild counterparts?
And I suspect that if you look most Bactrian Camels exhibited in the US are of the Domestic variety.
I think it should work, as Barbary Macaques and Fallow Deers work in mixed enclosure.Knowing that similar mixes with ungulates and other macaque species are possible, along with the following being native to the same parts of the world. Is it feasible enough to mix a troop of Japanese Macaques with a herd of Sika Deer?
Knowing that similar mixes with ungulates and other macaque species are possible, along with the following being native to the same parts of the world. Is it feasible enough to mix a troop of Japanese Macaques with a herd of Sika Deer?
FIrst of all, the sheer size of the enclosure would have to be 20 acres+. Baird's tapir are tropical and wouldn't align with the other animals' climate preferences. The argali and takin wouldn't go on the open plains like the other animals. Bison, moose, peccaries, camels, and horses would all be unpredictable and dominant with the potential to injure other inhabitants. Pronghorn are extremely sensitive to parasites picked up from domestic ungulates like camels & horses which is a high risk. I would just mix the bison, horse, camel, elk and mule deer together.An updated version of an earlier post
For a representation of Ice Age North America:
Plains Bison for the Ancient Bison (Bison Antiquus)
Przewalski's Horse for the Western Horse (Equus Occidentalis)
Bactrian Camel for the Western Camel ( Camelops Hesternus)
Mule Deer
Rocky Mountain Elk
Pronghorn
Sichuan Takin for the Shrub-Ox (Euceratherium Collinum)
Alati Argali for prehistoric Bighorn Sheep( prehistoric Bighorns were a good deal larger than their modern decedents and yes I know the Argali are a longshot at best)
Alaska Moose
Porcupine Caribou
Baird's tapir for the California Tapir(Tapirus Californicus)
Collared Peccary for the Flat-Headed Peccary (Platygonus Compressus)
Thank you.FIrst of all, the sheer size of the enclosure would have to be 20 acres+. Baird's tapir are tropical and wouldn't align with the other animals' climate preferences. The argali and takin wouldn't go on the open plains like the other animals. Bison, moose, peccaries, camels, and horses would all be unpredictable and dominant with the potential to injure other inhabitants. Pronghorn are extremely sensitive to parasites picked up from domestic ungulates like camels & horses which is a high risk. I would just mix the bison, horse, camel, elk and mule deer together.
I don’t think there’s no way of a risk that both species would hybridise, but there’s a high chance that the Himalayan Monal will kill the Golden Pheasant (male morals are very aggressive; sometimes they kill their own females)Would an aviary with Plum-headed parakeets, Ruddy shelduck, Golden pheasant and Himalayan monal work out? Or would there be a risk that the pheasant and monals fight each other or hybridise
It would be a good size to prevent aggression, overgrazing, fence pacing, and would likely make it a better mixNorthwest Trek Wildlife Park has a drive-through section that's 435 acres with (according to the AZA Ungulate TAGs Mixed-Species Manual 2017) 148 animals:
American Bison (Bison bison) (9.11.5)
Black-tailed Deer (Odocoileus hemionus) (~0.0.26)
Californian Bighorn Sheep (Ovis canadensis) (8.14.13)
Caribou (Rangifer tarandus) (9.7)
North American Moose (Alces americanus) (2.3)
Rocky Mountain Goat (Oreamnos americanus) (0.2)
Roosevelt Elk (Cervus canadensis roosevelti) (10.22.7)
Is the amount of acreage excessive or spot on?
Monal have hybridised with Lady Amherst’s in the past, I’ve also known a Monal cock, running loose in a paddock situation, hunt and kill Amherst cocks. Saying that, I know a Monal cock in a local zoo that lives peacefully with a pair of Amherst’sI don’t think there’s no way of a risk that both species would hybridise, but there’s a high chance that the Himalayan Monal will kill the Golden Pheasant (male morals are very aggressive; sometimes they kill their own females)
Monal and Ruddy Shelduck could fight too, if the shelducks had offspring.
If you remove the Monal it should work
Do you think an 250-acres exhibit would be just as effective?It would be a good size to prevent aggression, overgrazing, fence pacing, and would likely make it a better mix
No, it would be too small as aggression is more likely (so injury is more likely) along with not enough space for all of the inhabitants to feel safe and not stressedDo you think an 250-acres exhibit would be just as effective?
North American section of a safari park:
Section 1= 150 acres
Plains Bison
Rocky Mountain Elk
Whitetail Deer
Section 3= 100 acres
Rocky Mountain Bighorn
Moose
Caribou
Section 2 = 15 acres
Texas Longhorn
European Fallow Deer