Mogo Wildlife Park Mogo Zoo Bears Move Out

Now I'm confused. All I know off the top of my head at the moment is that the male at Mogo (Manga) was born in Melbourne and was the only one born for 12 years until he fathered 2 cubs at Mogo with Lena (now deceaced) in 1999 (?). Those cubs are now at Canberra. Two more cubs were born to Manga and Lena in 2004(?), which are still at Mogo in a separate enclose to Manga.
 
The Animals were hardly dumped on mogo, I'm sure they were more than happy to take them, ecstatic (sp?). That would be how most new private zoos start out. As for chimps, progress seems to be pretty slow. alot of donation boxes and stuff in place though.
 
Mogo would have been happy to take them. melbourne and taronga would have been happy to get rid of them.
 
Everyones happy . . those that have been to mogo, do you think that enclosure would be suitable for sun bears
 
Faraji said:
Now I'm confused. All I know off the top of my head at the moment is that the male at Mogo (Manga) was born in Melbourne and was the only one born for 12 years until he fathered 2 cubs at Mogo with Lena (now deceaced) in 1999 (?). Those cubs are now at Canberra. Two more cubs were born to Manga and Lena in 2004(?), which are still at Mogo in a separate enclose to Manga.
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taronga recieved two snow leopards in february 1990. These cats were displayed in the current snow leopard exhibit until i think 2004 - 2005?,( can't be bothered to read through my old zoo news magazines to find the exact time of arrival, so just guessing. Maybe someone not as lazy as me could check the arrival date for the new ones) when taronga recieved a new pair. The old pair from taronga were then moved to Mogo. Since then the new young pair at Taronga have had cubs.
 
Jarkari said:
Everyones happy . . those that have been to mogo, do you think that enclosure would be suitable for sun bears
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Most of the time, it is not so easy as to simply place a new species in an old species' enclosure. Even though they are both bears, sun bears are very different have different enclosure requirements. It is also very difficult for someone who has simply looked at an enclosure whilst visiting a zoo to determine whether it would be suitable. Having said that, it would need modifying to be suitable for pretty much anything apart from the bears that were living there. This of course will have to be done in the future as I'm sure Mogo will not be receiving any more Syrian Brown Bears anytime soon.
 
is it as much a case of 'dumping' unwanted animals or is this the role Mogo is opting to play as part of the regional zoo community? as much asTaronga and Melbourne are sledged, they are one of the few zoos with the money behind them to keep regional breeding program ticking along by way of importing new animals and new bloodlines. in the last couple of years, between them 3 new snow leopards have been imported, red pandas, several sumatran tigers and numerous primates, as well as elephants of course.
just as was discussed on the thread about displaying jaguars, every member of the ARAZPA community has their own role to play. in the case of Omaha and Prafula the ex-Taronga leopards, being sent to Mogo did result eventually in two new bloodlines for the region and two new cubs. had Mogo not been willing to participate, this species might have fizzled down to critically low numbers.
there are certain perks to helping big zoos. sure you do get their older animals, but you also get access to animals, a big and fundamental plus. you also get to play a more significant role in ex-situ breeding programs, establish professional dialogue and who knows, maybe in the future play an even bigger role in programs.
 
glyn said:
is it as much a case of 'dumping' unwanted animals or is this the role Mogo is opting to play as part of the regional zoo community? .
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Yes luckily it was the role Mogo was prepared to play otherwise melbourne and taronga would have been in a tough situation. By that i mean they could have found it hard to place these animals elsewhere. I think by using the word 'dump" i may have sounded that i was against the zoos from moving around their animals. I am a great fan of Mogo. I think that without their willingness to accept aging animals and surplus breeders they have helped out the larger zoos a great deal.
What word would you use for placing unwanted animals elsewhere?
 
This is true, but it is a misconceived fact that Mogo always receives old, unwanted stock. Also, there have been quite a few animals sent to other zoos (including Taronga) from Mogo.

I say all this at the risk of sounding like a Mogo cheerleader, but it is just very difficult for everyone to comment on so many of these issues when I gather most of us on this forum (mainly those in Australia) don't actually work at a zoo or dare I say it, are management at any of these zoos. I know that I could be wrong, but this is just from what I have read so far from the self-confessed zoo "groupies" (not that there is anything wrong with that :p).
 
And lets not forget that Mogo plays its role in the breeding program by breeding. They have excellent success with red pandas, they have/had a breeding pair of snow leopards they gave birth to the first cubs for many years, and then did so again.
 
maybe 'relocated'.
storing a couple of extra leopards etc is something taronga and melbourne could do, but if you have a handy little private zoo capable of caring for them satisfactorily and in need of new animals then why not send them?
its not to discredit Mogo at all. in the past they have imported siamang, golden lion tamarin and Lena the Snow Leopard from overseas (in her case it was Finland) but with limited resources it probably a role they are comfortable with and one that is good for the region.
 
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If you are talking about breeding endangered or threatened species then Mogo is the only zoo in Australia (along with Adelaide) to breed Golden Lion Tamarins, has bred 4 snow leopards in the last 8 years, more than 10 Cotton-Top tamarins, Pygmy marmosets, 3 siamang offspring and red pandas.

Mogo also imported founding stock of Pygmy marmosets from sweeden and cotton-tops from USA.
 
They also went to great expense to bring in the family group of siamang from Edinburgh.
 
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