My new fantasy aquarium

Your Australian exhibit reminds me a lot of that of the National Aquarium in Baltimore.

I'd put gray-headed flying foxes in the rainforest room. It leaves more room for them to be active if they choose to be so. Granted, that's how the six are at NAiB, and I've never seen them, but that's just how the exhibit is laid out.

Thanks for the info on the rainbowfish.
Well, NAiB used to be my local aquarium (for like 10 years), so I wonder where the inspiration came from ;)

Might be a nice idea, they'll surely be active in such a large exhibit. I think at the end of the exhibit (this one has a set path through it, just one) there will be a clear netting separating the flying foxes and the smaller birds - this aviary is entirely a lake, with a wooden bridge for the path, and islands with trees (that cross over the bridge, with feeding stations for the bats right next to the railing). This smaller section focuses on the various waterfowl species of Australia, including freckled duck, australian wood duck, cape barren goose, and chestnut teal. If it were larger I would include other/larger species, but it's not all that massive, so those species are enough I think.
 
Quite a number of interesting exhibits. Well done.

I realize this is in the fantasy section, but a few minor comments:

"Blue damselfish, peacock mantis shrimp"

- damsel doesn't stand a chance and would eventually end up as mantis shrimp food. Sure there are people that have tried it, but it rarely lasts. Mantis really belong in species-only tanks.

"greater blue ringed octopus"

- blue rings are indeed available in the aquarium trade (though they really shouldn't be kept by ordinary aquarists for obvious reasons!) and a well-connected public aquarium shouldn't have any problems getting them. Sure they're short-lived, but that's true for almost all octopus species, incl. all mentioned in this thread. It basically depends on getting breeding going, as done with various species at e.g. Monterey Bay Aquarium. However, their blue rings are barely or not at all visible most of the time. They just look like a tiny ordinary octopus. The blue rings are only really obvious when they're flared up e.g. when scared.

"Next is one of the larger tanks in this gallery, housing a bunch of fish that can't exactly be kept with live corals - so this tank is a large artificial reef tank."

- Most of the species you listed are entirely reef safe and wouldn't cause problems for live corals. The only exceptions are spotted knifejaw (eats sessile inverts and require subtropical water temperatures), angelfish (pretty much all angelfish species are risky, but it can be done, especially in very large tanks where a small amount of coral grazing isn't a big problem), butterflyfish (same as angelfish, although more problematic for the exclusive corallivores; none of the butterfly you mention are exclusive), sailfin snapper (eats sessile inverts).

"Volitan lionfish, antennata lionfish, leaf scorpionfish, stonefish"

- Stone will definitely eat leaf and antennata. May even try the volitan, although that combination has been done successfully at several aquariums.

"...chocolate chip starfish, feather duster..."

- Chocolate chip love to eat sessile inverts; they'll even have a go at small crustaceans if they can catch them.

"seadragon, golden neon goby"

- The goby is tropical (>72 F), seadragons are subtropical (<66 F, usually kept at 57-63 F). In any case it is currently impossible to source leafy, only weedy can be sourced.

"Blue spotted stingray, blue spotted ribbontail stingray, fiddler ray"

- same issue as above, fiddler is subtropical, others are tropical.

"Wolf eel, panamic green moray eel"

- same problem as above, although even larger difference in temperature requirements; wolf eel is a temperate species that only extends marginally into subtropical (and then typically in deeper sections where water remains cold). Would do fine in two tanks just above ("Barred sand bass..." and "California sheephead...").

"there are 9 different species of poison dart frogs living together, something rarely accomplished"

- With lots of space, it's easy enough to co-inhabit multiple dart frog species. The problem is that they can and often do hybridize. Among species you listed, the problems are: Green and black X bumblebee X dyeing; three-striped X pleasing; strawberry X harlequin. If you don't want hybrids, a good general rules is only 1 from each genus in a terrarium.

"dwarf green pike cichlid"

- Sure it's a dwarf, but they're aggressive and efficient hunters. They would love to be housed with rummynose, neon and similar sized fish! You'd have to accept that they're essentially feeders to the dwarf pike.

"redtail catfish... achara catfish, vulture catfish"

- once the redtail is fully grown, achara and vulture may well become food.

"fish hailing from the Mekong River"

- strictly speaking, a large percentage of those fish aren't found in the Mekong, but aquariums (and zoos) often use very broad geographic definitions (e.g. Mekong = any freshwater fish from southern Asia).

"White cloud mountain minnow"

- require colder water than the rest in that tank, but would do perfectly fine in e.g. hillstream loach tank. Some of the Vietnamese Tanichthys are better able to handle warmer temperatures long-term.

"very slightly brackish... blue sheatfish... asian upside down catfish"

- neither of those can live in brackish water, even if only slightly. However, there are numerous other catfish species that do fine in brackish water.

"Asian yellow spotted climbing toad, emperor salamander"
- although I've seen places mixing these, it really isn't the best choice. During the summer their temperature preferences are roughly a match, but the rest of the year the emperor require colder temperatures.

"polleni cichild"

- goodbye to jewel (unless one of the large species) and kribensis cichlids, and Congo tetra. Risky for reedfish, too. Polleni's actually do well with other large Madagascar cichlids (Paretroplus, Ptychochromis) as long as there's plenty of space, but they also do fine with larger, robust African mainland fish.

"northern rosella, eastern rosella"

- doable, but would need a very large aviary with plenty of vegetation/other structures to limit line of sight. Rosellas can be rather unpleasant towards other rosellas and other parrots.

"Madagascar rainbowfish are common with private hobbyists, so they would be easy to find. I don't know if they're in public aquariums though"

- plenty in public aquariums too. However, while private keeper almost only keep Bedotia madagascarensis (often misidentified as B. geayi), a number of rarer relatives are kept in a few public aquariums, sometimes as part of endangered species breeding projects. I posted a longer comment about it here: www.zoochat.com/community/media/madagascar-bedotia-amp-madgascar-pachypanchax-tanks.270972/
 
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temp, thank you for the well thought-out reply. I will definitely respond to it when I get a chance, might not be until this weekend though - but I will try and make time before then

For now, here are a few stock lists. Don't mind the large shark tank sizes, they're all wrong. The first tank I'll go over is the atlantic tank, this is approximately 80 feet long, 45 feet wide, and 8 feet high making it 216,000 gallons - a little over half the size I had quoted earlier. There are multiple goals with this exhibit:
  1. House the world's largest collection of rays (there are a few other species throughout other exhibits)
  2. Represent a native lagoon for various species of Atlantic sharks, rays, and other various fish
  3. Design a tank that effectively houses peaceful, relatively harmless species so that visitors can, for a fee, dive in the tank
  4. Provide a second tank with a tunnel through it
And the species list for the exhibit is quite comprehensive:
  • Atlantic sharpnose shark, blacknose shark, bonnethead shark, finetooth shark
  • Atlantic stingray, bluntnose stingray, roughtail stingray, southern stingray
  • Atlantic cownose ray, bullnose ray, lesser devil ray, southern eagle ray, spotted eagle ray
  • Smooth butterfly ray, spiny butterfly ray
  • Green sea turtle
  • Atlantic tarpon, scaled herring, blackbar soldierfish, black snook, black seabass, nassau grouper, tiger grouper, rock hind, cobia, jack crevalle, bar jack, lookdown, permit, mangrove snapper, lane snapper, yellowtail snapper, tripletail, porkfish, french grunt, bluestripe grunt, sheepshead, pinfish, red drum, beaugregory, bluehead wrasse, reef butterflyfish, foureyed butterflyfish, neon goby, atlantic spadefish, gulf flounder, bonefish
I will rank the elasmobranch species here:
  • Atlantic sharpnose shark, finetooth shark, bluntnose stingray, smooth butterfly ray - I don't know of any public aquariums exhibiting these species
  • Roughtail stingray, bullnose ray, lesser devil ray, southern eagle ray, spiny butterfly ray - very rarely exhibited, but there is at least one place that has them on display
  • Blacknose shark, spotted eagle ray - pretty easy to find, but not a staple species
  • Bonnethead shark, atlantic stingray, southern stingray, atlantic cownose ray - very common
So as you can see, there are some pretty rarely-exhibited species in this tank, which will surely make for a fun display.



Next is the tank with our large sharks. It is another large rectangular (more of an oval) tank, designed on a geographical region specifically known for its sharks - Australia. We're going to have 7 species of sharks, 3 species of rays, and a ton of other fish in the tank. This tank is 210 feet long, 95 feet wide, and 18 feet deep - making it 2.69 million gallons. The species inside are:
  • Scalloped hammerhead shark, sandbar shark, sand tiger shark, galapagos shark, grey reef shark, whitetip reef shark, tawny nurse shark
  • Bowmouth guitarfish, cowtail stingray, freshwater sawfish
  • Loggerhead sea turtle
  • Red mangrove snapper, giant moray eel, great barracuda, african pompano, giant trevally, bigeye trevally, silver trevally, bumblebee grouper, leopard grouper, crimson soldierfish, azure damselfish, clown tang, yellowtail tang, orange shoulder tang, convict tang, scribbled angelfish, bicolor angelfish, spangled emperor, red emperor snapper, fiveline snapper, checkered snapper, mono argentus, black durgon triggerfish, orbicularis batfish, threespot damselfish, scissortail sergeant, humphead wrasse, yellowbanded sweetlips
Inspiration for the sharks and rays in this tank came from Shark Reef Aquarium @ Mandalay Bay.



The next tank is the large (48 foot diameter and 9 feet deep, making it 122,000 gallons) artificial reef tank, for a few indo-pacific shark/ray species plus TONS of reef fish. The incredibly long stock list consists of:
  • Blacktip reef shark, zebra shark, black blotched fantail ray, reticulate whipray
  • Green sea turtle
  • Angelfish and Butterflyfish: bicolor angelfish, coral beauty angelfish, flame angelfish, japanese swallowtail angelfish, lamarck's angelfish, lemonpeel angelfish, pyramid butterflyfish, raccoon butterflyfish
  • Anthias: bimaculatus anthias, huchtii anthias, lyretail anthias, pictilis anthias, squareback anthias, stocky anthias
  • Cardinalfish: amboina cardinalfish, bandfin cardinalfish, flame cardinalfish, ochre-striped cardinalfish, orange-striped cardinalfish, orbicular cardinalfish
  • Clownfish and Damselfish: blue damselfish, four stripe damselfish, green reef chromis, lemon damselfish, ocellaris clownfish, three stripe damselfish
  • Hawkfish: arc-eye hawkfish, freckled hawkfish, longnose hawkfish, soaring hawkfish
  • Miscellaneous Fish: harlequin sweetlips, moorish idol, teira batfish, two-lined monocle bream, yellow banded sweetlips, yellowtail fusilier
  • Odd-Shaped Swimmers: mimic filefish, niger triggerfish, rectangle triggerfish, valentini pufferfish
  • Rabbitfish: blue-lined rabbitfish, foxface rabbitfish, scribbled rabbitfish
  • Small Reef Fish: blue-spotted watchman goby, canary blenny, dusky dottyback, gold head sleeper goby, lawnmower blenny, midas blenny, ocellated dragonet, pink-spotted watchman goby, red firefish, zebra barred dartfish
  • Tangs: achilles tang, bluespine unicorn tang, chocolate tang, convict tang, dussumieri tang, naso tang, orange shoulder tang, orange-striped bristletooth tang, regal tang, sailfin tang, scopas tang, vlamingi tang, white cheek tang, yellow eye kole tang, yellow tang
  • Wrasses and Hogfish: axilspot hogfish, blue-sided fairy wrasse, carpenter's flasher wrasse, exquisite fairy wrasse, green bird wrasse, hawaiian cleaner wrasse, longfin fairy wrasse, lunare wrasse, lyretail hogfish, red coris wrasse, saddle wrasse, scott's fairy wrasse, sixline wrasse

There is one other tank - this is actually in the Florida Gallery, and it will replace the large reef tank. The main reason for this is because almost all of those species are in the large Atlantic ray tank already, so there's no reason to copy that tank without the sharks or rays. I don't want to completely get rid of it though, so we're going to make it much much smaller. Stock list is all the way down below. Also, this tank is large, so the sportfishing tank is going to be changed into something much smaller. So, what happens to the livestock in that tank? Well, here's the run-down:
  • Red drum are now living in the large Atlantic shark/ray tank
  • Permit are now living in the large Atlantic shark/ray tank
  • Ladyfish are now in the new tank
  • Speckled seatrout keep their tank, although it will become much smaller
And in the large tank (which is 30 feet long, 12 feet wide, 6 feet deep, and 16,200 gallons), there are the following species:
  • Goliath grouper
  • Green moray eel
  • Neon goby
  • White margate
  • French grunt
  • Sailor's choice
  • Ladyfish
Finally, the atlantic reef tank. Not sure on size, but not massive:
  • French angelfish, queen angelfish
  • Lookdown, porkfish, french grunt, atlantic spadefish
  • Blue parrotfish, rooster hogfish, slippery dick wrasse, cuban hogfish, princess parrotfish, spanish hogfish
  • Blue chromis, atlantic blue tang
There we go, the aquarium is finished. Actually not, I have to get back to temp! Do not worry, I will surely do it when I get a chance :)
 
Okay, here is my response to temp:

  1. I've kept this combination personally before multiple times, and it's only failed me once - when I missed a feeding for the mantis. In fact, that exact stock list has been done by me before - I'll have to search for some pictures
  2. Yeah, I have decided against the blue ring. They have not been replaced by anything
  3. The angels and butterflies were the main ones I meant, and none of the live reef tanks are exactly large enough to the point where keeping these wouldn't be any issue. The tangs are definitely fine though, as are most of the fish in there. They're still in a large artificial reef tank though, not going live coral with them
  4. The stonefish is Synanceia verrucosa - which reaches around 16" at maximum. The antennata lionfish reaches about half this size, so they definitely cannot be kept in there - there isn't another lionfish species in the trade (to my knowledge) that reaches a large enough size to be kept in here, so it won't be replaced. Scorpionfish will be removed and not replaced as well
  5. I've kept chocolate chips with feather dusters no problems before, although I have heard of problems before. I'll take the starfish out, just to be safe (no replacement)
  6. The golden neon goby will be replaced with the popular (and often not properly kept) catalina goby
  7. These rays can all be kept together with no issues. The blue spotted ray can handle some very low temperatures down to the 60's but prefer high 70's, the ribbontail can't handle temps far under the low 70's, and the fiddler can handle high 60's if it really needs to. Temps in the low 70's, say 72-74, will facilitate all species well
  8. Panamic green moray eel removed completely, green wolf eel moved in with the snowflake moray and zebra moray
  9. Good point, I know a guy with a 1,700 gallon former reef tank that was turned into a paludarium with various dart frog species - he had aggression issues in the beginning, but they all simmered down. He does get hybrids though. One alternative would be to keep solely females, so no breeding whatsoever occurs. The other species will have males and females to facilitate breeding, these are rarer species in captivity
  10. Good point, dwarf pike removed and not replaced
  11. Again, know many people with this combination personally, it just requires space and regular feedings
  12. Never knew that, that tank will be labeled Southeast Asia tank I guess :)
  13. White cloud mountain minnow moved into the hillstream loach tank, not replaced in the tank they are currently in
  14. Both species replaced with colombian shark catfish - green spotted puffer also removed from here
  15. Emperor salamander and climbing toad separated
  16. Polleni removed and not replaced
  17. The aviary is very large, with plenty of plants and such, so they should be fine - can be removed if necessary
Thank you very much for the response! I will post a full species list at some point this week
 
Here's the species list for the South American Gallery, which is one of the big three galleries and is probably the largest of them all. This gallery has two parts, on two levels. The bottom level is sort of like your traditional exhibition, with various wall tanks and a few larger ones mixed in. There is a winding path throughout the exhibit, and then you travel up an escalator and into the walk-through rainforest. Species list per exhibit below:

There is a large, long, planted community aquarium housing:
  • Red discus, altum angelfish, bolivian ram cichlid, orinoco eartheater, striped headstander
  • Leopard corydoras, emerald corydoras, panda corydoras, leopard frog pleco, oil driftwood catfish, sailfin catfish
  • Colombian tetra, red eye tetra, firehead tetra, cardinal tetra, rummynose tetra, oneline pencilfish, marbled hatchetfish
Next is a large simulated tree trunk with various small to medium vivariums inside of it, housing:
  1. Giant peruvian cockroach
  2. Peruvian green and gold millipede
  3. Sun tiger tarantula
  4. Goliath bird eater tarantula
  5. Ecuadorian purple pinktoe tarantula
There is a large collection of frogs throughout the gallery. I will go over the absolutely massive (compared to the tiny creatures housed inside) living vivarium's species list first - this thing is probably going to be close to 25 feet long in order to give the inhabitants their proper space. The incredible thing about this list is that there are 9 different species of poison dart frogs living together, something rarely accomplished.
  • Green and black poison dart frog, splashback poison dart frog, bumblebee poison dart frog, dyeing poison dart frog, three-striped poison dart frog, strawberry poison dart frog, pleasing poison dart frog, harlequin poison dart frog, phantasmal poison dart frog
There are a few other vivariums with dart frogs in them, much smaller than the first but nonetheless still impressive:
  • Mimic poison dart frog, blue poison dart frog
  • Black-legged poison dart frog
  • Sky blue poison dart frog
In addition to those displays of amphibians, there are plenty more species displays (including one mixed one):
  • Waxy monkey frog
  • Surinam horned frog
  • Amazon milk frog, tiger legged monkey frog
  • Surinam toad
  • Budgett's frog
  • Smoky jungle frog
  • Rubber caecilian
Obviously with all of the amphibians in this display, there is a great window of opportunity to preach about conservation of the world's amphibians - and there are more throughout the other areas of the aquarium as well.

This part of the aquarium is rich in turtles, with five mixed-species displays on the bottom floor housing:
  • Yellow spotted amazon river turtle, black bar silver dollar, red hook silver dollar, threespot headstander, banded leporinus, agassiz's leporinus, yellow finned chalceus, elongate hatchetfish, false black tetra, blue discus, true parrot cichlid, chocolate cichlid
  • Twist neck turtle, otocinclus, leopard frog pleco, panda corydoras, glowlight tetra, spotfin tetra
  • Red headed sideneck turtle, dwarf green pike cichlid, longnose angelfish, king tiger pleco, green phantom pleco, giant corydoras, rummynose tetra, cardinal tetra, black phantom tetra, black neon tetra, river hatchetfish, marbled hatchetfish
  • Mata mata, black neon tetra
  • Giant amazon river turtle, jaguar catfish, galaxy pleco, leopard frog pleco, threespot geophagus, red hook silver dollar, black bar silver dollar
This level houses a few other displays with reptiles in them. These are:
  • Green anaconda
  • Emerald tree boa
  • Eyelash viper, amazon leaffish
  • Caiman lizard
  • Cuvier's dwarf caiman
There is a large perch complex here (watched over by a staff member) for a few species of macaw, namely
  • Scarlet macaw, greenwing macaw, blue and yellow macaw, military macaw
There are three naturalistic glass-fronted displays on this level, which will house:
  • Goeldi's marmoset
  • Pygmy marmoset
  • Squirrel monkey
There is a mini-path on this exhibit that's got tanks full of "deadly" fish in them. These are:
  • Electric eel, cardinal tetra
  • Electric catfish
  • Red belly piranha
  • Violet lined piranha, butterfly splitfin
  • Bucktooth tetra
There is a large freshwater stingray display tank, which houses
  • Leopoldi stingray, blue hook silver dollar, tropical gar, black arowana
The final exhibit on the first floor is a massive aquarium for the typical "monster fish" of the Amazon. These focus on catfish, but the entire list is composed of multiple other fish, including one of the largest freshwater stingray species in the world and a school of 2 foot long scavenging catfish:
  • Arapaima, silver arowana, black pacu, red bellied pacu, short tailed river stingray, monoculus peacock bass
  • Polka dot lyretail pleco, common pleco, niger catfish, redtail catfish, firewood catfish, tiger shovelnose catfish, achara catfish, vulture catfish

On the second floor, there is the walk-through rainforest. I would consider this exhibit to be the best of its kind - for one, it's a massive glass dome (this has been done multiple times before, yes). There isn't a set path in this exhibit - it splits off into a few different paths, so that you are able to view the entire exhibit. This exhibit is around 3 stories high at the very center, meaning some very tall trees can be grown in here. There is a very large waterfall which flows down into two separate streams; one of these flows into a large glass-fronted pond, which then waterfalls over into another of these ponds (discussed later). The second wraps around and leads into a large pool where the birds can swim/soak/drink. The waterfall can be accessed from the top to give a birds-eye-view of the entire exhibit (no pun intended) via a rope bridge, and there are a series of wooden stairs/paths with rope railings around the exhibit. There are misters, fog machines, speaker systems, and more to give a simulated natural environment (things like rain, thunder, fog in the early morning, etc) throughout the exhibit. Tons of live plants are found in this dome, in fact there are no fake plants anywhere to be found. Nest boxes are cleverly hidden around the entire area for all of the birds. Enough of my description, I'm sure you get the point. The fun part is the species list:
  • Spectacled owl, king vulture, hyacinth macaw (all housed in their own large, natural aviaries that are separated off from the free-flight species)
  • Tiger stingray, henlei stingray, royal panaque, banded leporinus, jurupari eartheater (housed in one of the glass-fronted ponds)
  • Hilaire's sideneck turtle, jaguar cichlid, jack dempsey cichlid (housed in the other glass-fronted pond)
  • Red footed tortoise (housed in a cleverly disguised pen between two of the paths)
  • The following species are all free-range in the dome:
    • Two toed sloth, brazilian agouti, golden lion tamarin
    • Green iguana, plumed basilisk
    • Double yellow headed amazon parrot, blue fronted amazon parrot, hawk headed parrot, blue headed pionus, white bellied caique, sun conure, pacific parrotlet
    • Crimson-rumped toucanet, green aracari, keel-billed toucan
    • Scarlet ibis, orinoco goose, white faced whistling duck, ringed teal, sunbittern
    • Pale vented pigeon, variable seedeater, white tailed trogon, blue crowned mot mot, screaming piha, yellow grosbeak, red capped cardinal, black spotted barbet, spangled cotinga, green honeycreeper, saffron finch, venezuelan troupial, yellow-hooded blackbird
    • Blue-gray tanager, white lined tanager, brazilian tanager, scarlet rumped tanager, turquoise tanager, green and gold tanager, paradise tanager, bay headed tanager, silver beaked tanager, blue and yellow tanager, burnished buff tanager, swallow tanager
As you can see, this is one of the larger exhibits in the entire aquarium, and probably the largest gallery if we're going for square footage (the tropical reef gallery might have more species, due to all the corals). Next to come is the Asian Gallery, stay tuned.

Fun fact - I actually looked into getting a/multiple spangled cotinga(s) privately, since they are one of my favorite 'smaller' birds. They are $1,500 for a pair though :(

Discus should be kept in a species only tank...
 
A few specifications:
1: I personally know four cases where "smashers" (i.e., the mainly crustacean-feeding mantis shrimp, such as peacock) were mixed with small fish. The survival record for the fish was 11 months, which some may consider ok.
7: Doable, but only if accepting reduce lifespan.
8: "Wolf eel" (Anarrhichthys; cold-water) mentioned on previous page and "green wolf eel" (Congrogadus; tropical) in your recent comment are two very different species. If you meant the green, you can disregard my comment about temperature.
11: Perhaps I did not express myself clearly enough. The two cat's can't deal with salt (even low level brackish), but they can be mixed with the banded archer and green-spotted puffer you mentioned. This is because this archer and puffer are very adaptable and can live in freshwater, although they do prefer a bit of salt. I've seen aquariums mixing all these in "mangrove tanks", but always using pure freshwater, not brackish.

Discus can indeed be mixed with others, although they do tend to see tiny fish as snacks and really don't do well if mixed with aggressive species. Captive bred are less extreme in their pH requirements than wild caught, but still require the high temperatures. Perhaps no public aquarium has done the discus-other species mix as well and realistic (compared to wild habitat; virtually no plants!) as Berlin Zoo Aquarium. Some variation in species-mix over time, but discus and angelfish have been a constant in the tank.
 
Not at all necessary, they are fairly easy to keep with other species if given enough space and hiding places. And usually "enough space" isn't too much space.
No they would be bullied and out competed for food, the only really sutible tank mates are small tetras and pencil fish, Corydoras and shrimps and snails.
 
This is really well thought out, good job. I always love seeing multi-complex aquarium and zoo ideas like these when done well.
 
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