New equine collection in the making?

Ah - that's more like it - much more vague and noncommital!
 
tizer said:
And as for the skin colour, I am not sure what your debate is Chlidonias but taken from a fresh skin of a zebra, and when you look closely at the skin and hair on a live zebra the skin colour is black.
Paradoxurus said:
The following photograph in the gallery solves the question of Zebra skin colour:

http://www.zoochat.com/206/longleat-hair-loss-zebra-38254/
there has been no debate about the skin colour of zebra. People seem to be confusing the pelage colour with skin colour. They are not interchangeable. If one is going to use the argument that the coat of zebras is black with white stripes because the skin is black, then one could just as easily say that orang-utans are not actually orange at all because their skin is black. As I said, the debate on the colour pattern of zebra would be long (and probably acrimonious) because it is to a large degree a matter of opinion which side you adhere to.
 
Zebras are not Black animals with White Stripes, nor are they White Animals with Black Stripes.

They are just animals with Black & White stripes...;)
 
Pertinax said:
Zebras are not Black animals with White Stripes, nor are they White Animals with Black Stripes.

They are just animals with Black & White stripes...
that is exactly right and is the position I stand at, because neither hair colour is covering the other hair colour, they are just two different hair colours forming a side-by-side pattern.

(However there is also the argument that as by definition a stripe is a narrow band of colour contrasting with the surrounding colour, that would mean that on a zebra the stripes are therefore formed by the black colouration because the white is the larger area of the coat. It is exactly the same as spots - the spot is the smaller pattern within a larger block of colour)
 
"White" horses, which are actually called greys (because no horse is referred to as white unless it is albino) have black skin, the skin is only pink under white markings on dark horses.
But greys are born a darker colour and eventually turn white with age.
I would argue that because zebras have the markings from birth and have black skin all over (as was said above), they are not white markings on an otherwise dark animal (because surely they would then have to have pink skin under the white stripes), but are just black and white stripes, and neither is on top of the other.
 
Sorry, my mistake; I was referring to Mammal Species of the World: A Taxonomic and Geographic Reference (2005). Colin Groves contributed many chapters to this book, but it was actually Peter Grubb that authored the chapter on Perissodactyls. For the record, he recognises the following zebra taxa:

Equus burchellii antiquorum
Equus burchellii boehmi
Equus burchellii borensis
Equus burchellii burchellii
Equus burchellii chapmanni
Equus burchellii crawshaii

Equus grevyi

Equus quagga (with a note that splitting burchellii is controversial)

Equus zebra hartmannae
Equus zebra zebra

The latest taxonomy that i have seen places all Plains zebra into E. quagga, and demotes antiquorum (Damara) into burchellii (thus it is no longer 'extinct'). This was Groves & Bell 2004.
 
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