New orang utan for Australia

lintworm

lintworm

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Next week Burgers Zoo(Netherlands) will send his Bornean orang utan male to Australia, but which zoo?? The male, named Guru, is 21 years old and was born in Krefeld, he is father of 3 sons(2004,2006,2008). Burgers Zoo stops with keeping orang utans, the other 5 will go to Sosto zoo.

So anyone knows which zoo Guru will go to??
 
then in that case are you sure he's not heading to Austria?

because the australasian region has long since consolidated all its bornean orangutans in new zealand and even that country is planning on phasing them out in favour of sumatrans (recently having sent a number of pure borneans to the USA).
 
He isn't going to Austria, in Dutch Austria=Oostenrijk, which doesn't sound very similar to "Australië". But maybe the biologist, I spoke, meant New Zealand, that's for us Europeans almost the same as Australia.
But isn't there a Bachelor/Hybrid group somewhere in Australia/New Zealand?/
 
there are a number of zoo-born hybrids in australia and one in new zealand. none are being bred however and the orangutan breeding program here is exclusively for sumatrans. like i said, even auckland zoo has been attempting to dispose of is pure borneans for a number of years so as to be able to contribute to the sumatran breeding program.
 
I'm very interested to find out if this is true. As stated above I know that the Australasian region is only focussing on Sumatrans, which is why Auckland had to send 3 Borneans all the way to the U.S. last year. It would seem a backwards step to then import another Bornean male? And where would he be going?
 
Laloba said:
I'm very interested to find out if this is true. As stated above I know that the Australasian region is only focussing on Sumatrans, which is why Auckland had to send 3 Borneans all the way to the U.S. last year. It would seem a backwards step to then import another Bornean male? And where would he be going?
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Your comfirming that he isn't bound for Auckland then?
 
Incorrect info: all Bornean orangs will stay within the European programme and will be re-distributed among German/Spanish zoos.

Aside, the ASMP goal is to manage the Sumatran species only. The Auckland group is on slow phase out.
 
Are you sure about the German/Spanish Zoo as it was stated that all animals except Guru would go to Sosto in Hungary.
 
@Kifaru Bwana, a biologist from Burgers Zoo told me this, so I suppose he knows where he is talking about! What is your source?
 
Guru was born at Dvur Kralove Zoo, not Krefeld Zoo and is definitely Pongo pygmaeus....

1,0 Guru (Pongo pygmaeus):

- born 15.12.1989 at Dvur Kralove Zoo, Czech Republic
- sire: Benjamin (born ~1974, died 1990), dam: Bernadine (born 29.06.1976 at Rhenen Zoo, Netherlands)
- moved to Arnhem 28.12.1993
- offspring: 1,0 Cajun (born 29.02.2000, died 06.03.2000), 0,1 Cajunga (born 12.06.2001, moved to Cologne November 2009), 1,0 Tigu (born 31.03.2004), 1,0 Gusa (born 09.06.2006), 1,0 Wousan (born 2008, moved to Cologne November 2009)
 
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lintworm said:
@Kifaru Bwana, a biologist from Burgers Zoo told me this, so I suppose he knows where he is talking about! What is your source?
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The EEP. However, if the zoo in question has commented that way, that more or less supercedes the EEP ...

What strikes me as odd is that Guru will then go to an essentially grouping of non-breeding animals (or so has been the case for some years now). Unless, quite recently the Auckland Zoo has been incorporated fully into the Bornean programme for SSP/EEP jointly?

Perhaps you have an inkling on that or otherwise our friends from Auckland Zoo themselves?
 
New orangutan?

Just to get back on subject of thread - I can confirm that Auckland is definitely not getting any new Orangutans, especially not a male as we are at capacity with two adult males and a juvenile male!
As Auckland is the only holder of Orangutans in NZ, I would say that Guru definitely not headed our way.
 
Will Auckland be exporting it's remianing Orangutans like they did with Indra, Intan and Horst or will they remain at Auckland Zoo. Are Isim and Gangsa in their own enclosure yet?
 
No immediate plans to export remaining Orangutans at this stage. Is a very complex process, and hard to find placements for them. Isim and Gangsa are not yet in their own enclosure, which is still being remodelled, but not long now!
 
The biologist was wrong, all six orang utans arrived in Sosto zoo (Hungary) today. So no new orangs in Australie
 
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