mstickmanp
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Manatee exhibit update:
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Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden News From the Cincinnati Zoo 2010
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Interesting. I understand Sea World San Diego is permanently losing their manatees. The rumor I've heard (I stress that this is an unsubstantiated rumor) is that Florida Fish and Wildlife was upset that the manatees weren't truly being part of a rehabilitation and release program.
tigertiger
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I can't blame them. Though I don't think manatees are any different in terms of being zoo animals than any other animals, there are rehabilitation and release programs in place and Cincinnati is definitely one that takes that seriously. In the time they were here, I probably learned more about the two they just released than any other animal in the zoo--just because of how aware the zoo is of their importance. Well, them and Emi =/.
I think you'll find the set-up at Way Kambas is now managed much more efficiently and with much scientific advice and back-up from the Cincinatti team as well. I'm hopeful that the Andalas/Rosa/Ratu combination really will provide those much needed calves in the forseeable future.
But the outlook for the female Suci at Cincinnati is still problematic. There are no unrelated males in captivity, except the elderly Torgamba, whose sperm is of dubious quality anyway. The solution to me would be for a natural mating with her father Ipuh, at least in the first instance. Better to have her inbreeding than not breeding. Perhaps in time a new male or a better solution will become available but there doesn't seem to be one at present.
MARK
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But the outlook for the female Suci at Cincinnati is still problematic. There are no unrelated males in captivity, except the elderly Torgamba, whose sperm is of dubious quality anyway. The solution to me would be for a natural mating with her father Ipuh, at least in the first instance. Better to have her inbreeding than not breeding. Perhaps in time a new male or a better solution will become available but there doesn't seem to be one at present.
I would agree with you Pertinax, In the early years of the Indian rhino herd at the San Deigo WAP the herd bull bred to his daugher and the herd has never looked back, in resent years they imported four new males from Indian zoos for the new bloodlines so yes a little inbreeding is better than no breeding at all, it's a case where you have to do the very best you can with what you have got.
I do sometimes wonder how necessary this rigid rule of only breeding unrelated animals in Zoos really is. There must be very many situations in the wild where closely related animals breed together- seemingly without any detrimental effects. Obviously carried to the extreme( over several generations) it could be harmful, but that isn't the scenario here.
tigertiger
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Also, apparently in addition to the renovated Children's Zoo area, the new Dragons exhibit, and the expanded Cheetah Encounter exhibit...the giraffe yard is getting an expansion. Looks like a good summer for the Cincinnati Zoo.
just saw this on the news feed
Zoo's new manatees arrive Wednesday | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
Zoo's new manatees arrive Wednesday | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
The new manatees are the zoo's first ever female manatees. CC Baby, a 550lb manatee was rescued from the Caloosahatchee River in September 2007 as an orphaned calf and has been hand-raised at the Lowry Park Zoo. The other manatee, Turner, weighs in at 450lbs and was rescued from the waters of Tampa Bay in January 2010, after suffering from natural cold stress. U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service officials worked with the Lowry Park Zoo to coordinate the rescue after Turner's behavior was identified as being problematic.
More news from the zoo!! Several new species have been added to the zoo's collection recently, including the return of the Komodo Dragons. These new species are mainly found in the new Dragons exhibit, Nocturnal House, and the renovated Children's Zoo. These species include:
Screaming Hairy Armadillo
Six-banded Armadillo
Alpaca
Babydoll Sheep
Llama
Ackie's Dwark Monitor
Blue Tree Monitor
Green Tree Monitor
Quince Monitor
Sandhill Crane
There may also be a few other new species of birds as well.
Six-banded Armadillo Video
Screaming Hairy Armadillo
Six-banded Armadillo
Alpaca
Babydoll Sheep
Llama
Ackie's Dwark Monitor
Blue Tree Monitor
Green Tree Monitor
Quince Monitor
Sandhill Crane
There may also be a few other new species of birds as well.
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tigertiger
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She lives in the old okapi/goose exhibit.
Tigertiger, does the new Okapi yard look larger than their previous one. I'm assuming it would be. Their old yard was quite small, and the Bongo yard was quite large so even halfed I think it may be larger than the old one. The old one was so slender.
On to the new rhinoceros. I agree with you Kifaru Bwana. I wonder why they are bringing in a new female when they already have two females and a new calf on the way. If you are going to bring a new rhino in, why not a bull?
Hopefully I'll get down there for Zoo Babies and see her and Luna.
Oh! by the way, did you see the Sandhill Crane? I'm interested in where exactly it is in the zoo.
On to the new rhinoceros. I agree with you Kifaru Bwana. I wonder why they are bringing in a new female when they already have two females and a new calf on the way. If you are going to bring a new rhino in, why not a bull?
Hopefully I'll get down there for Zoo Babies and see her and Luna.
Oh! by the way, did you see the Sandhill Crane? I'm interested in where exactly it is in the zoo.
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My post was meant to signify that one of the original females had left (the one with whom AI did not work, she is now in a full breeding situation elsewhere ..., so IMO far better off).
The new female is very youngish and not quite yet mature.
Again; it would help no end in getting a bull in due course (but is not a need for this year, more for next/2011). The current adult female is pregnant (by AI) and should give birth sometime this year (if my memory serves me correctly).
mstickmanp
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Video of the new baby Bonobo:
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Zoogoer2000
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The old female who recently departed (Chitwan) had also conceived thru AI before, but lost all her calves in the early stages of pregnancy
Shows what I know. That makes a lot more sense. I'd heard several stories and they all made it seem that Chitwan was still at the zoo. I haven't visited the zoo since December so I've got all my information off of the zoo's website, their facebook page, and the local news.
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The Zoo Babies line up was released on their website!
Animal Birth Date Name Parents Location:
Grevy Zebra ~ 8/24/2009 ~ Marty ~ Lainey Lynn & Shewa ~ Rhino Reserve
Arabian Sand Cats ~ 10/30/2009 ~ Fath & Najah ~ Jala & Naji ~ Cat House
Garnett's Galagos ~ 1/22/2010 ~ Mandy & Randy ~ Sandy & Andy ~ Jungle Trails
White Handed Gibbon ~ 2/17/2010 ~ Possum ~ Connie & Hosen ~ Jungle Trails
Miniature Cattle ~ 1/20/2010 & 2/3/2010 ~ Herman & Jonas ~ Children's Zoo
Bongo ~ 2/24/2010 ~ Luna ~ Safi & Mac ~ Rhino Reserve
Red River Hogs ~ 3/29/2010 ~ Corky, Monty & Casey ~ Rhea & Little B ~ Wildlife Canyon
Bonobo ~ 3/24/2009 ~ Maddie Lisa & Veron ~ Jungle Trails
Bonobo ~ 3/31/2010 ~ Clara Kimia & Vergil ~ Jungle Trails
Baby Doll Sheep ~ March 2010 ~ Hawthorne, Sweet Pea, Laurel, Spiderwort, Snapdragon, Shamrock ~ Children's Zoo
Aardvark ~ 7/12/2009 ~ Padmae ~ Children's Zoo
Florida Manatee ~ rescued on 1/7/2010 ~ Turner ~ Manatee Springs
Stellar's Sea Eagle ~ 4/16/2010 ~ Eagle Eyrie
Hissing Cockroach ~ World of the Insect
Peruvian Giant Jumping Sticks ~ World of the Insect
Malaysian Leaf Insects ~ World of the Insect
tigertiger
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A few (exciting) developments I learned about today at the zoo:
1. The much talked about development of the former parking lot by the giraffe's into an African area has started. A sign on the area lists phase one:
-Expansion of the giraffe area (almost done)
-New Flamingo exhibit by the giraffe area (had no idea - due Memorial Day weekend)
-New cheetah encounter (starting Memorial Day weekend)
The map of exhibits to come includes:
-Olive Baboon
-Nile Hippo
-HUGE Hoofstock range (mixed) with watering hole [largest part of the new map]
-New cheetah exhibit
-Kopje
-Wild Dogs
-Free Flight Aviary
I'm rather excited - especially at the thought of hoofstock making a return when so many zoos seem to be phasing them out. Not ideas on what will happen to the flamingo & cheetah exhibits that presently exist however (assume the latter will be made to accomodate a rhino, what with the hopeful October birth and the cheetah exhibit will hold another big cat for the short term [hopefully the poor snow leopard...]).
1. The much talked about development of the former parking lot by the giraffe's into an African area has started. A sign on the area lists phase one:
-Expansion of the giraffe area (almost done)
-New Flamingo exhibit by the giraffe area (had no idea - due Memorial Day weekend)
-New cheetah encounter (starting Memorial Day weekend)
The map of exhibits to come includes:
-Olive Baboon
-Nile Hippo
-HUGE Hoofstock range (mixed) with watering hole [largest part of the new map]
-New cheetah exhibit
-Kopje
-Wild Dogs
-Free Flight Aviary
I'm rather excited - especially at the thought of hoofstock making a return when so many zoos seem to be phasing them out. Not ideas on what will happen to the flamingo & cheetah exhibits that presently exist however (assume the latter will be made to accomodate a rhino, what with the hopeful October birth and the cheetah exhibit will hold another big cat for the short term [hopefully the poor snow leopard...]).
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