North American African Elephant Population 2024

That’s technically not correct. In a press statement they did state Luna was pregnant or at least one of their cast members did. That was something never picked up by guests unlike with Kianga. The Sedgwick County Zoo hasn’t posted any update regarding their elephants pregnant, they did about a month ago to promote their new expansion but this is not something the zoo has said themselves anytime recently.

maybe this is too harsh sounding, but this is something people are just going to have to wait and watch play out themselves.

Disney Hopes Its 'Curious, Confident' Baby Elephant Will Inspire Visitors to Help the Species

Sedgwick County Zoo needs more space for baby elephants
I would not call that article a "formal announcement" in my opinion, I was referring to an actual post of some kind on their social media blatantly saying the two cows were pregnant (which never occurred). But that is just a personal view.

The Sedgewick cows were confirmed pregnant via an AZA article, which I would say is a much more credible source than an influencer blog. But as you said, only time will tell!
 
But has the zoo said that themselves?



Again, there is a lot the public doesn’t know about the elephant population that may have already happened that we just don’t know about yet. The population of proven breeding bull elephants in the United States is rising. Tendaji being one of them, Callee being another recent one. And than someone on zoochat had said though I can’t remember who at the moment that Luna bred naturally which means one of Disneys bulls either Tsavo or Jabali bred with her. I am going to say now too, there is a facility who hasn’t disclosed yet and not about to be that person who does, who had a bull successfully breed naturally and impregnate multiple cows at this facility. And this bull is a first time father. In cases like this, people and I was this person too not that long ago are so impatient about these type of things when in reality most people just don’t have a clue about what’s going on, what’s happened or happening in terms of breeding, and the African elephant population in terms of reproduction is slowly changing. Probably not happening fast enough, but things have and continue to be turning around for the population.

Bringing this topic forward again - while not disclosing the facility/individuals pregnant, would you feel comfortable sharing when calves may be expected generally?
 
Something seems to be going on with elephants dying mere months after arriving at TES. First it happened with Nicole, then Jana, and now Donna, and Tonka died before he moved there.
The deaths of the three individuals who died while at the The Elephant Sanctuary form a weird pattern, although it is almost certainly coincidental. There is no possible way Tonka's death is related, if there is any connection between the other deaths at all.
 
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Something seems to be going on with elephants dying mere months after arriving at TES. First it happened with Nicole, then Jana, and now Donna, and Tonka died before he moved there.

Nicole was in a bad shape already. As I recall Jana was colicky (I can be wrong). It sounds like Donna had a heart attack. I don’t doubt the quality of care TEs provides but they get old sick elephants at most part.
 
Nicole was doing so poorly when she arrived at TES that I really wondered why the zoo‘s vet had cleared her for the transport. Her death was in no way due to something that happened at TES.

they didn’t want the blame or outrage if she died there. Especially from ARs.
 
I knew they should have either had Osh stay and renovate the enclosure to prep for a bachelor setting, or move him to another aza zoo with geriatric cows and/or adolescent males. Birmingham, Cheyenne Mountain, Maryland, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Jacksonville, San Diego, Rodger Williams, or Tyler could have all been good places for him to retire as a relatively young behavioral non breeder.
 
I knew they should have either had Osh stay and renovate the enclosure to prep for a bachelor setting, or move him to another aza zoo with geriatric cows and/or adolescent males. Birmingham, Cheyenne Mountain, Maryland, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Jacksonville, San Diego, Rodger Williams, or Tyler could have all been good places for him to retire as a relatively young behavioral non breeder.
Oakland's official statement was that there were no other facilities able to take him and no bulls they could transfer in. I would think that with Osh having completly unrepresented genes in the US that the SSP would've preferred to keep him in a facility where they could utilize him for AI. It appears that no bachelor facilities could take on a fully grown bull at the time, and that other facilities with geriatric cows and the like were simply not realistic options. Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc, while having the space, are across the country from Oakland and aren't very plausible moves for a mature african bull.
I do agree it feels like a waste to have them basically sitting in a facility that is so staunchy about breeding. Both him and Artie, who afaik is still a fertile bull as well, will never get to contribute unless their policies change.
 
Oakland's official statement was that there were no facilities able to take him. I would think that with Osh having completly unrepresented genes in the US that the SSP would've preferred to keep him in a facility where they could utilize him for AI. It appears that no bachelor facilities could take on a fully grown bull at the time, and that other facilities with geriatric cows and the like were simply not realistic options. Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc, while having the space, are across the country from Oakland and aren't very plausible moves for a mature african bull.
I do agree it feels like a waste to have them basically sitting in a facility that is so staunchy about breeding. Both him and Artie, who afaik is still a fertile bull as well, will never get to contribute unless their policies change.
The birmingham zoo does have bulwalgi and he's fully grown. But I'm not too sure if they can hold much more elephant than the bull trio they currently have. The same goes for elephant odyssey at san diego and the caldwell zoo in tyler tx as they both currently have a geriatric cow and two young bulls. And I'm not so sure if both latter facilites can hold more than 3 elephant max either.
 
In my opinion, it is really unfair to call Osh a behavoir non breeder. He never had a real chance and may well have sired calves if given the opportunity with young females. In Oakland, he was set up for failure- the females were far older then him and he was still pretty young - too young for most bulls to sucessfully dominante and breed with older females. He was well socialized in Howletts, which is very important. On the other hand, he doesnt look like a ‚proper‘ bull, so there might be some health issues that prevent breeding.
 
In my opinion, it is really unfair to call Osh a behavoir non breeder. He never had a real chance and may well have sired calves if given the opportunity with young females. In Oakland, he was set up for failure- the females were far older then him and he was still pretty young - too young for most bulls to sucessfully dominante and breed with older females. He was well socialized in Howletts, which is very important. On the other hand, he doesnt look like a ‚proper‘ bull, so there might be some health issues that prevent breeding.
My apologies for unintentionally insulting his breeding status haha. I do think y'all have a point that if he were moved to a facility that had a herd of younger cows ripe for breeding, and older experienced males to show him the ropes of mating and overall bullhood. I'm sure things would have turned out much better if howletts chose that path. But to be fair, I think a lot of the North American zoos with elephants had a tiny amount of elder cows with little to no real experience with breeding and family herds by the time osh came to oakland. And much of the enclosures for them were incredibly outdated. But fast forward to the present decade and now very little facilities still strictly hold geriatric cows, and we have a lot more elephant habitats that at least have the ability to manage a multigenerational herd of cows and calves, a breeding bull and/or a bachelor herd of young bulls.
 
Sedgwick county’s zoo posted a new update regarding their African Elephant pregnancies. All 5 African elephants are still pregnant.

Sedgwick County Zoo
Looks like Simunye will be the first one to give birth several months away. I'm glad callee is a tip top breeder, but I'm still hopeful ajani has finally impregnated one of the sedgwick girls. But I know they said they will confirm the dad's after all the calves are born.
 
Oakland's official statement was that there were no other facilities able to take him and no bulls they could transfer in. I would think that with Osh having completly unrepresented genes in the US that the SSP would've preferred to keep him in a facility where they could utilize him for AI. It appears that no bachelor facilities could take on a fully grown bull at the time, and that other facilities with geriatric cows and the like were simply not realistic options. Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc, while having the space, are across the country from Oakland and aren't very plausible moves for a mature african bull.
I do agree it feels like a waste to have them basically sitting in a facility that is so staunchy about breeding. Both him and Artie, who afaik is still a fertile bull as well, will never get to contribute unless their policies change.
The facts of the matter: Bull Osh arrived at Oakland Zoo as a sub-adult/juvenile 10-year old into a herd of "experienced" cows (allthough no functional matriarchal herd social structure). In the wilds a mature sexually dominant bull is between the 28-35 age classes as adult sexually mature cows will not accept anything less.

As long as in captive zoo environments zoo animal managers are content (I could use other wordings that could be deemed less diplomatic) to leave inexperienced non-adult / maturely acceptable to the cows the net end result is going to be an individual bull not breeding. To my mind bull Osh does not deserve the tag "behavioral non-breeder" as long as he has not been tested out in a good social herd structure with good sex/age ratios are conducive to creating a breeding herd and he is not the minor among the maxima age cows....! To put him into a retirement home now is just boggling the mind!

Bull Osh should have been sent away from Oakland to a location where he could live in a bachelor herd to learn dominance/mating behaviours from his conspecifics (mind you: young bulls are pushed out of their matrilineal herd quite early on (in the 10's.... and then live for a time around a dominant bull with conspecifics in the wild).

TBH: It is pure conjecture at best what facility would be best for him at this point as far as breeding options are concerned! I just feel very sorry that no other options previously, now and into the future were ever seriously on the table. For sure a sanctuary like TES is no way a facility for a 30-year old nulliparous bull to be in or transferred to. Period!
 
The facts of the matter: Bull Osh arrived at Oakland Zoo as a sub-adult/juvenile 10-year old into a herd of "experienced" cows (allthough no functional matriarchal herd social structure). In the wilds a mature sexually dominant bull is between the 28-35 age classes as adult sexually mature cows will not accept anything less.

As long as in captive zoo environments zoo animal managers are content (I could use other wordings that could be deemed less diplomatic) to leave inexperienced non-adult / maturely acceptable to the cows the net end result is going to be an individual bull not breeding. To my mind bull Osh does not deserve the tag "behavioral non-breeder" as long as he has not been tested out in a good social herd structure with good sex/age ratios are conducive to creating a breeding herd and he is not the minor among the maxima age cows....! To put him into a retirement home now is just boggling the mind!

Bull Osh should have been sent away from Oakland to a location where he could live in a bachelor herd to learn dominance/mating behaviours from his conspecifics (mind you: young bulls are pushed out of their matrilineal herd quite early on (in the 10's.... and then live for a time around a dominant bull with conspecifics in the wild).

TBH: It is pure conjecture at best what facility would be best for him at this point as far as breeding options are concerned! I just feel very sorry that no other options previously, now and into the future were ever seriously on the table. For sure a sanctuary like TES is no way a facility for a 30-year old nulliparous bull to be in or transferred to. Period!
That is mainly why facilities such as jacksonville birmingham san diego providence cheyenne mountain, milwaukee, caldwell, san diego (elephant odyssey), and baltimore would have all been better places for him to be transferred to than the sanctuary in my opinion. He could have had some ai sessions at these places.

On that note, I wonder if cheyenne mountain and Rodger Williams are even spacious and strong enough for bulls, as they only manage geriatric cows at the mo. They're relatively recent and modern facilities by the looks of them, and I think much of the recent facilities have that capability. I have also had a general idea that much of the zoo enclosures with the ability to house bulls is less likely to phase out the animals, with the exeption of knoxville and oakland.
 
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