@EsserWarrior you are right, got I little ahead of myself, my apologies I will just edit in the future
The truth is it doesn't look good. The reason I used "programs" in reference to individual facilities cause it actually worked better that way. The EEP for elephants is quite militant and it worked. They also have a better disposition than us Merican manager/owner egos (I say this having gone to a few European "EMAs"). I was half hopeful in the mid 2010s when they did the big ele SSP masterplan but it hasn't panned out. As I tell a friend of mine who works at a current breeding facility for elephants, you got have hope until they aren't there.
Would you say that Asian or African Elephants have a better program at the moment? I don't know much about the captive African Elephant population in the United States, but the Asian Elephant population isn't the greatest, with the birth-death ratio being unfavorable.