North American Asian Elephant Population 2021

Javier Iniguez said:
The Cincinnati Zoo has just broken ground their brand new state of the art elephant exibhit, they also plan to add langurs, asian river otters, and four more asian elephant. The video also states that they want to kick-start their breeding program.
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The Cincinnati Zoo does not plan to have langurs, I am curious where you got that from, they plan to have gibbons. The zoo will only be importing two female Asian Elephants not four. The new Asian Elephants are set to arrive in 2023 and they will most likely be from the Dublin Zoo. Overall this new exhibit is supposed to open in 2024.
 
Ok this is something I’m not understanding at all regarding the elephant expansion at the Cincinnati Zoo
1. If the new elephant exhibit isn’t opening until 2024, why is the zoo receiving 2 new females in 2023 despite having no additional space for them?
2. Regarding to my first question, if there’s no additional space this means the zoo would have to open up some of their current space to them. Does this is imply their sending some of their elephants to other zoos then?
3. I’m curious as to why the Cincinnati Zoo is getting females from Dublin Zoo. Are they doing this to increase genetic diversity in the North America Asian Elephant Population?
4. Has any of the zoos current elephants bred in the past?

ok I guess I have a couple questions and not one just realizing but if anyone knows the answers to them please let me know
 
John Marchwick said:
Ok this is something I’m not understanding at all regarding the elephant expansion at the Cincinnati Zoo
1. If the new elephant exhibit isn’t opening until 2024, why is the zoo receiving 2 new females in 2023 despite having no additional space for them?
2. Regarding to my first question, if there’s no additional space this means the zoo would have to open up some of their current space to them. Does this is imply their sending some of their elephants to other zoos then?
3. I’m curious as to why the Cincinnati Zoo is getting females from Dublin Zoo. Are they doing this to increase genetic diversity in the North America Asian Elephant Population?
4. Has any of the zoos current elephants bred in the past?

ok I guess I have a couple questions and not one just realizing but if anyone knows the answers to them please let me know
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1. I do not know
2. The Cincinnati Zoo will not be sending any of its elephants away to other zoos.
3. The Cincinnati Zoo has partnered with the Dublin Zoo to build this new habitat and to improve elephant care at the zoo. The Dublin Zoo has plenty of elephants to send to other zoos while most zoos do not. I think they are just trying to get more elephants rather than bring more genetic diversity.
4. Sabu has had two calves before and Jati has had one. Jati is now infertile though.
 
Mai Thai said:
The Cincinnati Zoo does not plan to have langurs, I am curious where you got that from, they plan to have gibbons. The zoo will only be importing two female Asian Elephants not four. The new Asian Elephants are set to arrive in 2023 and they will most likely be from the Dublin Zoo. Overall this new exhibit is supposed to open in 2024.
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My mistake it was gibbons
 
As of July 4, 2021, there are 223 (52.171.0) Asian elephants in North America. Of the 223 Asian elephants in North America, 19 (3.16.0) reside at two institutions in Canada, and 204 (49.155.0) reside at forty-one institutions in the United States. However, these numbers are not accurate as 25 (1.24.0) Asian elephants have an uncertain status. The elephants with an uncertain status are italicized in red in the current population.

North American Asian Elephant Population (07/2021)
 
Could someone please name who are the current breeding stud bulls in North America, Thanks.
 
Zorro said:
Could someone please name who are the current breeding stud bulls in North America, Thanks.
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Currently, there are 11 active breeding bulls in North America. These bulls are housed with reproductively viable cows and/or have reproduced naturally or through AI in the last couple of years. In addition, there are 6 other breeding bulls in North America. These bulls are housed in a bachelor herd or with post-reproductive cows and/or haven't reproduced naturally or through AI in quite a few years.

Active Breeding Bulls:

1.0 Johnson (Calvin × Kitty) 2001.04.29 (African Lion Safari) - 8 (1.7.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Spike (Dalip × Seetna) 1981.07.02 (Smithsonian National Zoo) - 3 (1.2.0) offspring - none living

1.0 Raja (Onyx × Pearl) 1992.12.27 (Saint Louis Zoo) - 7 (1.5.1) offspring; 3 (0.3.0) living

1.0 Albert (Calvin × Lilly) 1998.11.29 (Albuquerque Zoo) - 1 (0.1.0) offspring; none living

1.0 Doc (Charlie × Alana) 1997.05.08 (Rosamond Gifford Zoo) - 4 (3.0.1) offspring; 1 (1.0.0) living offspring

1.0 Hank (Vance × Mala) 1988.01.16 (Columbus Zoo) - 3 (1.2.0) offspring; 1 (1.0.0) living

1.0 Tommy (Vance × Birka) 1992.05.25 (Endangered Ark Foundation) - 4 (2.2.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Rex (WILD × WILD) 1968.00.00 (Oklahoma City Zoo) - 7 (3.4.0) offspring; 6 (2.4.0) living

1.0 Samson (Calvin × Kitty) 1998.05.04 (Oregon Zoo) - 3 (2.1.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Romeo (Pete × Alana) 1993.01.10 (Fort Worth Zoo) - 5 (3.2.0) offspring; 2 (0.2.0) living

1.0 Thailand (WILD × WILD) 1965.00.00 (Houston Zoo) - 22 (10.10.2) offspring; 7 (4.3.0) living

Other Breeding Bulls:

1.0 Groucho (WILD × WILD) 1970.00.00 (Denver Zoo) - 7 (3.4.0) offspring; 2 (0.2.0) living

1.0 Bodhi (Coco × Phoebe) 2004.04.16 (Denver Zoo) - 1 (0.1.0) offspring; living

1.0 Charlie (WILD × WILD) 1973.00.00 (Center for Elephant Conservation) - 14 (5.9.0) offspring; 12 (5.7.0) living

1.0 Indy (WILD × WILD) 1972.00.00 (Dickerson Park Zoo) - 10 (3.7.0) offspring; 4 (1.3.0) living

1.0 Sabu (WILD × WILD) 1988.00.00 (Cincinnati Zoo) - 2 (1.1.0) offspring; none living

1.0 Sneezy (WILD × WILD) 1971.00.00 (Tulsa Zoo) - 4 (2.1.1) offspring; none living
 
Elephant Enthusiast said:
Currently, there are 11 active breeding bulls in North America. These bulls are housed with reproductively viable cows and/or have reproduced naturally or through AI in the last couple of years. In addition, there are 6 other breeding bulls in North America. These bulls are housed in a bachelor herd or with post-reproductive cows and/or haven't reproduced naturally or through AI in quite a few years.

Active Breeding Bulls:

1.0 Johnson (Calvin × Kitty) 2001.04.29 (African Lion Safari) - 8 (1.7.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Spike (Dalip × Seetna) 1981.07.02 (Smithsonian National Zoo) - 3 (1.2.0) offspring - none living

1.0 Raja (Onyx × Pearl) 1992.12.27 (Saint Louis Zoo) - 7 (1.5.1) offspring; 3 (0.3.0) living

1.0 Albert (Calvin × Lilly) 1998.11.29 (Albuquerque Zoo) - 1 (0.1.0) offspring; none living

1.0 Doc (Charlie × Alana) 1997.05.08 (Rosamond Gifford Zoo) - 4 (3.0.1) offspring; 1 (1.0.0) living offspring

1.0 Hank (Vance × Mala) 1988.01.16 (Columbus Zoo) - 3 (1.2.0) offspring; 1 (1.0.0) living

1.0 Tommy (Vance × Birka) 1992.05.25 (Endangered Ark Foundation) - 4 (2.2.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Rex (WILD × WILD) 1968.00.00 (Oklahoma City Zoo) - 7 (3.4.0) offspring; 6 (2.4.0) living

1.0 Samson (Calvin × Kitty) 1998.05.04 (Oregon Zoo) - 3 (2.1.0) offspring; all living

1.0 Romeo (Pete × Alana) 1993.01.10 (Fort Worth Zoo) - 5 (3.2.0) offspring; 2 (0.2.0) living

1.0 Thailand (WILD × WILD) 1965.00.00 (Houston Zoo) - 22 (10.10.2) offspring; 7 (4.3.0) living

Other Breeding Bulls:

1.0 Groucho (WILD × WILD) 1970.00.00 (Denver Zoo) - 7 (3.4.0) offspring; 2 (0.2.0) living

1.0 Bodhi (Coco × Phoebe) 2004.04.16 (Denver Zoo) - 1 (0.1.0) offspring; living

1.0 Charlie (WILD × WILD) 1973.00.00 (Center for Elephant Conservation) - 14 (5.9.0) offspring; 12 (5.7.0) living

1.0 Indy (WILD × WILD) 1972.00.00 (Dickerson Park Zoo) - 10 (3.7.0) offspring; 4 (1.3.0) living

1.0 Sabu (WILD × WILD) 1988.00.00 (Cincinnati Zoo) - 2 (1.1.0) offspring; none living

1.0 Sneezy (WILD × WILD) 1971.00.00 (Tulsa Zoo) - 4 (2.1.1) offspring; none living
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Thanks for your reply to my question. Perhaps a swap for new bulls with some of the European zoos may be an idea?. I know the US has obtained 1 new unrelated bull from the Melbourne zoo.
 
Zorro said:
Thanks for your reply to my question. Perhaps a swap for new bulls with some of the European zoos may be an idea?. I know the US has obtained 1 new unrelated bull from the Melbourne zoo.
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No problem. It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea. Bulls from the Radza line, Naing Thein line, and Hussein line in Europe would be welcome additions to the North American population. However, the biggest problem with some of the breeding bulls in North America is underutilization. Bulls like Sabu and Sneezy, for example, are housed at institutions that don't offer any breeding prospects and won't loan their bulls to other facilities. The population would see improvement in reproduction if institutions like Cincinnati and Tulsa loaned their bulls to other facilities who have breeding cows. Fortunately, in Sabu and Sneezy's case, both institutions are building new facilities for their elephants so, hopefully, cows will finally come to them. Nonetheless, loans should be prioritized over waiting for cows to come to them.
 
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Elephant Enthusiast said:
No problem. It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea. Bulls from the Radza line, Naing Thein line, and Hussein line in Europe would be welcome additions to the North American population. However, the biggest problem with some of the breeding bulls in North America is underutilization. Bulls like Sabu and Sneezy, for example, are housed at institutions that don't offer any breeding prospects and won't loan their bulls to other facilities. The population would see improvement in reproduction if institutions like Cincinnati and Tulsa loaned their bulls to other facilities who have breeding cows. Fortunately, in Sabu and Sneezy's case, both institutions are building new facilities for their elephants so, hopefully, cows will finally come to them. Nonetheless, loans should be prioritized over waiting for cows to come to them.
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@Kifaru Bwana
 
Elephant Enthusiast said:
No problem. It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea. Bulls from the Radza line, Naing Thein line, and Hussein line in Europe would be welcome additions to the North American population. However, the biggest problem with some of the breeding bulls in North America is underutilization. Bulls like Sabu and Sneezy, for example, are housed at institutions that don't offer any breeding prospects and won't loan their bulls to other facilities. The population would see improvement in reproduction if institutions like Cincinnati and Tulsa loaned their bulls to other facilities who have breeding cows. Fortunately, in Sabu and Sneezy's case, both institutions are building new facilities for their elephants so, hopefully, cows will finally come to them. Nonetheless, loans should be prioritized over waiting for cows to come to them.
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I think the issues are the same across regions. Too many zoos with bigger egos than informed priotorisation of best possible breeding arrangements and retaining proven or breeding age animals knowing full well that at home it is not going to happen but hanging on to them for dear life and not cooperating in the bigger picture.
 
Elephant Enthusiast said:
No problem. It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea. Bulls from the Radza line, Naing Thein line, and Hussein line in Europe would be welcome additions to the North American population. However, the biggest problem with some of the breeding bulls in North America is underutilization. Bulls like Sabu and Sneezy, for example, are housed at institutions that don't offer any breeding prospects and won't loan their bulls to other facilities. The population would see improvement in reproduction if institutions like Cincinnati and Tulsa loaned their bulls to other facilities who have breeding cows. Fortunately, in Sabu and Sneezy's case, both institutions are building new facilities for their elephants so, hopefully, cows will finally come to them. Nonetheless, loans should be prioritized over waiting for cows to come to them.
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I fully agree. And as for Tulsa, Sneezy is relatively old, so I'm afraid it may be too late to complete the new facility and get the breeding cows.
 
John Marchwick said:
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The zoo has posted an update on their 2 year old elephant fighting EEHV. She is not out of the woods yet but she has made progress. They will continue to treat her until EEHV levels decline however the fact she still has shown no clinical signs is a good sign
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It is well. I wish her to recover as soon as possible. Fewer calves have died of EEHV in recent years than before. Almost every time the virus is detected in time, the calf survives.
 
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