Australia Zoo Off Display Animals

Can't really say much. But, a little investigation on the website shows that they only have one Rhino from Werribee, Ganini. Now those visiting werribee zoo would've noticed that there's only three Rhinos on display. I believe two out back, and a few moved or moved on. One that hasn't been on display at Werribee is Tawali.. Was moved to another zoo but I gosh darned can't think of the name ;) maybe you guys will remember ;)
 
Everybody knows that two rhinos were moved to Australia Zoo and that one died. Do you have any actual information to suggest that this was due to Australia Zoo's care?
 
has australia zoo or werribee actually given a reason why or even a statement that one of the rhino died?
 
I wouldn't say its 'common knowledge' (don't think it was in the papers..?)

And I doubt Werribee Zoo would say anything as it's not their business, but I also doubt that it AZ will say anything..
 
Yer I know, but don't think it'd be fair or right for me to say. :( But I can say that WZ some keepers are upset and some also angry..
 
To be fair, m575, if you're not willing to say what you believe happened... perhaps you shouldn't engage in innuendo?
 
say what you think.....

look i don't much care if this information is divulged or not. but this is a forum about zoos for zoo fans. so what else is its content going to be made up of other than rumour, speculation and second hand information?

i think anyone is free to say whatever they like here - thats the point of the forum, and if the zoos want to make a statement on a matter, or confirm or deny anything then thats the job of their PR department, which is welcome to join and no doubt knows very well about zoochat.

if zookeepers are openly chatting to work experience kids and the general public about their feelings then clearly there's not much concern on their behalf anyways....
 
hmmm. The thing is, zoo keepers AREN'T talking about it to the public or anything.. it's kept hush hush.. Basically something went wrong over there which shouldn't have, and for that reason, I don't want to go to that zoo. In MY eyes, it was a complete lack of care.
 
phoenix said:
look i don't much care if this information is divulged or not. but this is a forum about zoos for zoo fans. so what else is its content going to be made up of other than rumour, speculation and second hand information?
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Rumour, speculation and second-hand information are all fine (as long as they are identified as such). What I'm objecting to is the implication of culpability by Australia Zoo without any explanation or justification. m575, for reasons best known to him/herself, seems to want to imply that Australia Zoo were responsible for the rhino's death without providing anything that corroborates that implication.

That just leaves us to engage in rumour and speculation which can do nothing but run down Australia Zoo's reputation. Frankly, I feel that that's unfair to the people who work there.
 
m575 said:
hmmm. The thing is, zoo keepers AREN'T talking about it to the public or anything.. it's kept hush hush.. Basically something went wrong over there which shouldn't have, and for that reason, I don't want to go to that zoo. In MY eyes, it was a complete lack of care.
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Actually YOU simply sound like a fool.

This forum is many things. Something that does not seem to happen here is the sort of post you are making.

To imply safely from your handle of m575. That Australia zoo has anything but the best intentions of care for its animals. Really is pathetic.

Best if you back up your claims or remove your posts. Obviously you are here to discredit AZ and get some attention.
 
Look, I'm not here to bad mouth AZ. I'm just speaking from my knowldege and you can take it or leave it. And no, I'm not saying they deliberatly did anything, just that it was avoidable.
 
m575 said:
And no, I'm not saying they deliberatly did anything, just that it was avoidable.
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Actually, you really aren't saying anything much at all, apart from the fact you aren't happy with them and won't be visiting the zoo.

You imply they are responsible for the death, but won't say why. And just because the keepers don't talk about it (or keep it hush hush) doesn't necessarily mean there is a big secret.

Keepers often become very attached to their animals - their 'extended family' - especially if they've known the individual for a long time, moreso if they've known the animal since birth. And when they die it can hurt. Talking about it with the public is something you just don't want to do.

It's like a Code that zookeepers have - there are some things you just don't discuss with non-zoo people.

@m575: If you have hard facts or evidence that forms your opinion, that's good and well. If your opinion of malpractice is based on the fact that no-one will talk to you about it, then you should be prepared to adjust your views if and when more evidence comes to hand either supporting or refuting your supposition.

But hinting at malpractice without any real supporting evidence is just wishy-washy. Or attention-seeking. Either way, neither is a good character trait.

I hope I didn't sound too harsh. If I came across that way, I certainly didn't mean to.

:p

Hix
 
Sorry guys. I guess I wont talk about this sort of stuff in the future. Yes, I do have 'hard evidence' and no, the keepers don't want to talk to the public about it for several reasons, one being, they shouldn't be spreading news about other zoos.. I also doubt that AZ will ever say the deffinate reason, and if they do say anything it'll be "of natural causes" (I've seen other zoos do the same thing in the press...) and this is for more than one reason.. so they don't lose business (obviously) but also so they don't get people complaining to them about things which were not intentional..

Who ever reads my posts can take it how they want it.
 
One of the white rhino at cairns died up there. It was avoidable. from memory it suffered a broken leg in a scuffle or play fight or something with the other rhino. These are two rhino that had been together for some time. It was avoidable, but no person was at fault. There wasn't a release of this information to the general public. Zoos rarely advertise the death of an animal unless it is well known. So why should Australia Zoo be expected to.
 
snowleopard said:
Admission to Australia Zoo is about $50, and that gets a visitor only 5 different species of mammal. Admission to the Cincinnati Zoo in Ohio gets a visitor 21 species of cat, plus thousands of other animals. Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo is one of the largest and best zoos in North America, and admission is $11. It takes all day just to see the place, and the same goes for the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle as it also has an admission of $11 in the winter season and it is an outstanding zoo. I would still love to visit the Australia Zoo as the Crocoseum alone appears to be quite intriguing, but the price is simply outrageous for what is on offer. I am still in shock at the limited number of exotics on display for the public...
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Is that 50 in American? Even WAP is cheaper than that!
 
my prediction is australia zoo is going to cave in on itself eventually.

truth is the main attraction at the zoo was steve irwin, not bindi or baby bob and certainly not terri, who deservedly or not has managed to make a reputation for herself as difficult, money driven and ungenerous.

to survive, i believe that australia zoo has to completely shed its irwin family theme-park image and focus on being a major australian/international zoo with a name synonymous with conservation. one would have thought this possible considering the head start they got thanks to the legacy of steve irwins image.

however, they made a serious mistake in passing up, not once, but twice or more the opportunity to purchase major attraction animals that are completely out of grasp for them now.

that being the biggest (and only) collection of african ungulates outside of the 3 open range zoos in the country. in fact, the two breeding groups of hippos (both pygmy and common) were alone worth the money.

i just don't think they'll be able to continue to pull the crowds long run and the big bucks for future development are no longer rolling in.
 
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