Old world monkeys in Latin American zoos

David Matos Mendes said:
Searching in CITES trade, I could also find out that two Siamang individuals were imported from Germany in 2007. I think these might be the ones in Goiania zoo
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Well done David !

Very interesting to find out as it finally solves the mystery of these individuals life stories.

So they were originally from Germany... but how sad that they came all that way and are now stuck on that inadequate little island.

I really do think that they need to be moved to BH zoo.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
Well done David !

Very interesting to find out as it finally solves the mystery of these individuals life stories.

So they were originally from Germany... but how sad that they came all that way and are now stuck on that inadequate little island.

I really do think that they need to be moved to BH zoo.
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Yeah, I can't imagine a motive for them to come from Germany, once I sincerely don't think Goiânia zoo has a good international reputation. At least not good enough to receive any animal from the european zoos...

Gosh, my biggest happines would be if they came to BH... :D

Let's see if Goiânia's staff solve this issue in this renovation they are doing. I hope they realize there are some animals they can no longer keep if they want to improve the place, just like Rio zoo is doing.
 
David Matos Mendes said:
Yeah, I can't imagine a motive for them to come from Germany, once I sincerely don't think Goiânia zoo has a good international reputation. At least not good enough to receive any animal from the european zoos...

Gosh, my biggest happines would be if they came to BH... :D

Let's see if Goiânia's staff solve this issue in this renovation they are doing. I hope they realize there are some animals they can no longer keep if they want to improve the place, just like Rio zoo is doing.
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Yes, it seems a bit weird to me too that they would go to the effort of importing a pair of siamang and then not really do anything with them.

I really hope they can resolve it, would be nice to see this pair live a better life.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
Yes, it seems a bit weird to me too that they would import siamangs and then not really do anything with them.

I really hope they can resolve it, would be nice to see this pair live a better life.
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Yes, totally agree. Even if they came in 2007 as adults, there might be still time for they to be part of a nice reproduction program
 
wally war eagle said:
I saw in past zoo chats the overpopulations of hamadryas baboons in Uruguay zoos. Why breed them in Brazil ?
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Ah, we're not actually talking about the baboons, but the siamangs who live next them, in a lake with some primate islands :). My last reply really had another possible interpretation, but we were actually discussing about the siamangs that live in Goiânia zoo, and I just mentioned that the baboons might not be the best neighbour one can get... Besides having a quite small exhibit, a territorial animal right next would make welfare and, consequently, reproduction even harder to achieve.
 
wally war eagle said:
I saw in past zoo chats the overpopulations of hamadryas baboons in Uruguay zoos. Why breed them in Brazil ?
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At Goiânia zoo there is a pair of siamang kept on an island that is both far too small and far too close to another island which has a group of male hamadryas baboons. Both the inadequate size of the island and the proximity to such a territorial and aggressive species such as these baboons seems to be causing a lot of distress to the siamangs.

Me and David have often discussed on the forum that we believe that these gibbons would be better off housed at Belo Horizonte zoo where there is much more room for a suitable enclosure and less stressful stimuli in their immediate surroundings.
 
The zoo in Rio de Janeiro keeps yellow and sacred baboons and rhesus macaques. I don't know if they still keep Japanese and crab-eating macaques and vervet monkeys. I'm going to visit the zoo in Volta Redonda for the first time next Sunday so I'll tell you guys which species of primates they keep there.
 
Enzo said:
The zoo in Rio de Janeiro keeps yellow and sacred baboons and rhesus macaques. I don't know if they still keep Japanese and crab-eating macaques and vervet monkeys. I'm going to visit the zoo in Volta Redonda for the first time next Sunday so I'll tell you guys which species of primates they keep there.
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Good point, Enzo. If I'm not wrong, Rio zoo also keeps chacma baboons.


Tell us what you think about Volta redonda zoo when you visit it. I was supposed to have been there last year but couldn't do it because of the lack of time... Also, if you can post pictures of it in the zoochat gallery, so that we can know how it looks.
 
Enzo said:
The Natal Aquarium keeps sacred baboons and crab-eating macaques
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I didn't know Natal aquarium held so many non-aquatic animals! It seems it's quite similar to SP aquarium when talking about the standards of the species population plans.
 
I think we haven't made the baboon / guenon individuals list, so let's start: (I'm gonna start considering only Brazil, everyone feel free to update this list with the other countries that also hold any species of the mentioned animals)

Brazil:

Belo Horizonte zoo: Gabon talapoin. (two male individuals)

Brasilia zoo: Hamadryas baboons (couldn't see any baboon when I visited, but I know the zoo keeps a big group.) and japanese macaques (small reproductive group)


Goiânia zoo: Hamadryas baboons and olive baboons (small reproductive groups of both species)

Rio zoo/ bioparque do Rio: Hamadryas baboons and yellow baboon (a male hamadryas and a female yellow)

Teresina zoo: olive baboon (a single female individual)

Zoo Pomerode: olive baboons, japanese macaques and patas monkeys (who knows any information about how many individuals they keep, tell us here)


Zoo curitiba: Hamadryas baboons (small reproductive group)


I'm sure there are individuals and institutions missing here, so please, feel free to update the list.
 
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