Old world monkeys in Latin American zoos

Enzo said:
Not only Old World monkeys, but animals even as big as elephants are struggling with loneliness at Latin American zoos. Take Sandro and Koala, the two Asian elephants whose companions died this year as examples. Other than those, I'd like to mention Luna, the white rhino.
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Yes, when I mentioned those, I wanted to involve all the species suffering with loneliness in zoos nowadays. I think the quality of the handling of species would help to solve this problem. Zoos could cooperate more when it comes to this. For example, joining elephant "Sandro" with "Koala", and other asian elephants we have in Brazil; all of them in Rio's new exhibit, wich seems to become the best for the species in the country when it's ready. Not even necessarily talking about forming a reproductive group, but simply providing the animals a nice interactive life.
Wouldn't include "Luna" as a very urgent case, not as much as elephants for example. Rhinos not necessarily live in groups. I don't know what are the plans for her, nor for rhinos at BH when she dies though.
 
carlos55 said:
I still have a guidebook from Chapultepec zoo from 1968 The primate collection was the following- chimpanzee, orangutan,lion tailed macaque, lar gibbon, hamadryas baboon, colobus, hanuman langur,, patas monkey, Mexican spider monkey, mandrill and common marmoset.
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Very interesting to read that there were colobus and lion tailed macaque (I assumed that the Guadalajara ones were the first and only of the species in Mexican zoos) once held there.

The ancient Hanuman langur mentioned earlier in the thread and that I heard colleagues at Chapultepec talk about fondly and that eventually died in the early 90's must have been the last survivor of this group.

I wonder where the Hanumans at Chapultepec originally came from ?

For some reason I am feeling that just like the Japanese macaques in more recent times these monkeys may have been a diplomatic gift from India (maybe 1950's or 60?).
 
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Sadly I don't think sending the solitary Mandrill from Mexico to Brazil would work given the laws surrounding the export of primates from Mexico that were earlier mentioned by Carlos.

I remember this individual though (cannot remember the name given to him at the zoo though) and I always thought he would be far better with a companion.
 
I've made some research on CITES and I got a report that included most/all living primates that have been brought/imported to Brazil since 1975.
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If you take a look at this list, you'll notice that various species and specimens of white-eyelid mangabeys, guenons and other Old World monkeys appear on it.
 
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I believe some sacred baboons are being held at Beto Carrero World. If there are still some of those monkeys there, they probably live in one of the monkey islands which you can see when you take the train ride right next to the zoo. The ride is called Dinomagic.
 
Enzo said:
I believe some sacred baboons are being held at Beto Carrero World. If there are still some of those monkeys there, they probably live in one of the monkey islands which you can see when you take the train ride right next to the zoo. The ride is called Dinomagic.
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Also sacred baboons held at Sorocaba zoo, one male, two females and a subadult male.
 
Enzo said:
I've made some research on CITES and I got a report that included most/all living primates that have been brought/imported to Brazil since 1975.
CITES Trade Database
If you take a look at this list, you'll notice that various species and specimens of white-eyelid mangabeys, guenons and other Old World monkeys appear on it.
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Quite a number of lar gibbons imported to Brazil during the 1990's by the looks of it, where did all those go ?
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
Quite a number of lar gibbons imported to Brazil during the 1990's by the looks of it, where did all those go ?
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They were probably sent to some of the major Brazilian zoos (most likely with some failed attempts and deaths, then others might have been imported in order to try to breed the species again), private collections and theme parks with zoos.
 
Enzo said:
They were probably sent to some of the major Brazilian zoos (most likely with some failed attempts and deaths, then others might have been imported in order to try to breed the species again), private collections and theme parks with zoos.
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One of the last ones I believe was Julia.

She was the female gibbon that was housed with the orangutang at São Paulo zoo.
 
Enzo said:
He could be sent to Beto Carrero World, since I believe there are other orangutans there.
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Lets put it this way, I do not think he should be sent to GAP at all.

I dont know if he should be moved from SP but if he is ever moved then anywhere other than the place I mentioned above.
 
Enzo said:
When I went there, in 2015, there were also mandrills. I don't know what was their fate, but I believe there is a single male individual still being kept at the institution.
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According to the Balneário Camboriú zoo's Instagram account, they keep a young pair of mandrills, along with an older male.
 
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Enzo said:
What about the guenons and macaques present at the zoo? Are they already on the list?
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Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
What guenons do you mean ?

I will have to write up a new list and include the macaques (which are also held at Morelia as I've seen them).
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Enzo said:
When I mentioned the guenons, I meant the ones present in the first two videos that you sent the link of.
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About those "guenons", I confused myself. I thought Chlorocebus monkeys were guenons, my mistake.
 
I have some news about the Bauru zoo. They have baboons of two different species (a male sacred and what they call a "common baboon"), patas monkeys and a male mandrill.
 
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