Paignton Zoo Paignton Zoo News 2011

When we visited a few weeks ago, we only saw Banda on display, not sure if he was hiding in the grass at the back or they had already started prepping him for the move.

It was a lovely sight, watching Banda struggle with four cubs climbing all over her.

I think Banda is of to Jerusalem. She has been a fantastic mum over the past 4 years. Hopefully Tenang will get on with the new female and be as successful.
 
Satan said:
When we visited a few weeks ago, we only saw Banda on display, not sure if he was hiding in the grass at the back or they had already started prepping him for the move.

It was a lovely sight, watching Banda struggle with four cubs climbing all over her.

I think Banda is of to Jerusalem. She has been a fantastic mum over the past 4 years. Hopefully Tenang will get on with the new female and be as successful.
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Hello again Satan

The reason you only saw Banda/Tenang was that Banda was in season and as Ayro was mature enough to mate with her they had to seperate them all.

Banda is no longer being swapped with the female from Jerusalem so all plans are on hold. So her and Tenang will remain seperated.> Poor Banda she has lost her last cub and cannot return to her mate Tenang. Thats the stud book for you.:mad:
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Didn't know about the swap not being on anymore. I e-mailed them a while ago about the moves. So we could get to see them before they were moved on. It must be horrible for both of them.

Very sad. They need to import other females from around the world. To many in Europe share Banda's blood lines if I remember correctly. If the weather holds I think I might go along next week.
 
I herd on here the new head of birds was keen to begin allowing where possible more birds to be fully winged any changes here?
 
They are slowly improving the bird enclosures. A long overdue thing in my view. Some of the enclosures up the hill are a disgrace. Especially those that house the Macaw's and some of the owls.
 
Satan said:
Didn't know about the swap not being on anymore. I e-mailed them a while ago about the moves. So we could get to see them before they were moved on. It must be horrible for both of them.

Very sad. They need to import other females from around the world. To many in Europe share Banda's blood lines if I remember correctly. If the weather holds I think I might go along next week.
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So she can't be put on contraceptives and mixed with the male for now? Or is another move imminent? Do Paignton have two outdoor tiger enclosures?

I read on another thread that the variegated spider monkeys were housed beyond their quarantine period in an indoor shed/house and that building work on their outside enclosure was never finished, that one was lost and more have arrived. Can anyone confirm whether this is true?
 
johnstoni. said:
So she can't be put on contraceptives and mixed with the male for now? Or is another move imminent? Do Paignton have two outdoor tiger enclosures?

I read on another thread that the variegated spider monkeys were housed beyond their quarantine period in an indoor shed/house and that building work on their outside enclosure was never finished, that one was lost and more have arrived. Can anyone confirm whether this is true?
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Here goes The spider monkeys Two originala ones were moved to make way for the two new females , recently two more females arrived and JR the male. they were all put in together then the first two got sick one died and then there were three females and JR
As far as i know.

Regarding the Tiger enclosures Yes there are two outside enclosures but one is off show and where Tenang spends his time when the cubs grow up with mum.:eek:
 
Birds - as I've stated in a previous post; the new curator of birds believes all the birds in the collection should be able to fly, hence the new netting over many of the enclosures in recent months e.g. Oriental and Marabou Storks.
The parrot aviaries are gradually being re-stocked with smaller species of parrot e.g. Lories, and mixed with ground dwelling species e.g pheasant. Only the Blue throated and Hyacinth macaws will remain.

Tigers - You can view (covertly) the off-show area by 'hitching' over the fence behind the owl aviaries opposite the cassowaries. It's very similar in shape and size to Twycross's Dhole enclosure.

Spider Monkeys - the outside run has been out of action for a while? It was designed originally for Celebe's Macaques before Abbysian Colobus moved in so it is due an overhaul to encourage them off the ground.
However, the Howler monkeys and Pileated Gibbons have not produced young so maybe a shift of species is due?

Any news on the following;
* Zebra/Ostrich mix
* (old) summer Ostrich paddock - being re-fenced for...?
* Lemur wood - still one single Ruffed (non free range)?
* Grey/Lar Gibbon - any access to Orang Island or still in a cage just big enough for squirrells?
* Duchess's eye?
* Plan's for a new male Bongo?
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Great news about the marabou stork, surely the first hatching in the UK for about 10-15 years.
 
TriGB said:
Birds - as I've stated in a previous post; the new curator of birds believes all the birds in the collection should be able to fly, hence the new netting over many of the enclosures in recent months e.g. Oriental and Marabou Storks.

Spider Monkeys - the outside run has been out of action for a while? It was designed originally for Celebe's Macaques before Abbysian Colobus moved in so it is due an overhaul to encourage them off the ground.
However, the Howler monkeys and Pileated Gibbons have not produced young so maybe a shift of species is due?
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Do you think the netting over of the enclosure contributed to the Marabou breeding success? Or are many of the 'park' birds pinioned?

So were Abysinnian colobus, then howlers, then pileated gibbons all tried in the former sulawesi macaque enclosure? For how long have the spider monkeys not had access to the outdoor enclosure?

How long has it now been that the grey/lar gibbon pair have not had access to a proper outdoor enclosure?

When was the last time the cassowaries bred? Am I right in thinking the only collection breeding cassowary in the UK over the last 15-20 years has been Paignton?
 
A few answers from my limited knowledge:

The Zebras and Ostrich seem to be OK together.

I think Rhea are going into the old Ostrich paddock.

There's a pair of Red Fronted Lemurs (not free range) in Lemur Wood as well as the lone Red Ruffed female.

The Grey/Lar gibbon situation is unchanged.

I think the Marabou Storks are a fairly recent acquisition and their house is new.

The Howlers and Pileated Gibbon are housed near the train station. They haven't lived in what is now the Brown Spider Monkey House. The female Pileated Gibbon died in April after giving birth, as did the infant.

Cassowaries: The old breeding male died last October and the female (hatched October 1984) and her son (hatched August 2003) are on display, separately.
 
Is there any info on why the Tiger trade fell through? :confused:
It's a shame from a genetics point of view. I hope they can relocate Banda elsewhere now and still find Tenang another unrelated* wife

*unrelated as in only a very distant relation because the vast majority of Sumatran Tiger held in captivity are still related in someway (second, third cousins etc)
 
The female from Jerusalem that was arrive at Paignton had the habit of killing it's mate. So really Paignton waiting for a new female isn't a bad thing!
 
Little Lion Man said:
The female from Jerusalem that was arrive at Paignton had the habit of killing it's mate. So really Paignton waiting for a new female isn't a bad thing!
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Chana has never killed another adult Tiger. She did however reject all three of her litters and as a result is now considered a "problem" animal (as Gigit points out this is the most likely reason why Paington have refused to take her). Paignton now have several choices in how they move forward with Sumatran Tigers.. they include

Waiting for the studbook to assign Banda to another collection (most likely scenario atm) and then offer Paignton an alternitive mate for Tenang. However given Banda's over-representation (seven siblings and countless aunts, uncles through her grandfather, Morris) this could be a long process and whilst the wait goes on Tenang gets older and by the time a new female becomes avalible he may be too old for breeding again.

They could also (temporarily?) relocate Tenang for breeding elsewhere. Due to his nervous nature though this could seriously unsettle him (being sent away and later coming back)

Giving up breeding altogether and just holding onto Banda and Tenang until old age gets the better of them (not an ideal solution but is possible depending on EEP recomendations)

Breeding Banda and Tenang again without EEP approval will not do Paignton any favours so this is unlikely.

There is a pure female in the UK though, of breeding age,who has been alone since she was quite young. I won't name the collection but maybe with EEP approval a swap could take place with Banda going to this other collection??
 
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