Persephone’s 2024 Road Trips

Persephone

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Throwing this up here for some advice in planning. I’m planning three road trips in 2024, and probably a train trip in November although I’m very unsure of the details on that one. Tentative plan is:

March-April: Bramble Park Zoo, Great Plains Zoo in South Dakota - probably a visit to Minneapolis on the way there or back.

May: Tulsa Zoo. Probably stops in Branson and/or St. Louis on the way.

October: Little Rock Zoo. Probably Hot Springs National Park. No idea what to do on the way there or back.

I live near Chicago so that’s the start and end point. Any advice on things to see near the zoos or in transit? I’ve never been to Arkansas or Oklahoma before and it’s been about a decade since I was in South Dakota.

Once I actually get on the road I’ll post reviews of each zoo. Will throw up a species list for Bramble Park when I visit. The others have recent-ish ones.
 
Went to Oklahoma last year, also from near Chicago and planning a return trip for April. I would recommend the OKC zoo if you can include that with Tulsa. It’s is about an hour maybe a little more away. While in Tulsa I would recommend seeing the Blue Whale of Catoosa road side attraction, and also go to Harden’s Hamburgers, one of the best burgers I’ve ever had.
 
I can't offer any advice but look forward to hearing about your trips! These zoos aren't much on my radar so insight will be appreciated.
 
Went to Oklahoma last year, also from near Chicago and planning a return trip for April. I would recommend the OKC zoo if you can include that with Tulsa. It’s is about an hour maybe a little more away. While in Tulsa I would recommend seeing the Blue Whale of Catoosa road side attraction, and also go to Harden’s Hamburgers, one of the best burgers I’ve ever had.

I can't offer any advice but look forward to hearing about your trips! These zoos aren't much on my radar so insight will be appreciated.

Thank you for the suggestions and kind words! In particular I’m looking for something interesting to do in Iowa or eastern South Dakota as I still have a little time to fill on that trip. I don’t anticipate either Great Plains or Bramble Park being a full day, even with some travel.
 
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I've been to both Great Plains and Bramble and highly enjoyed both visits. Great Plains is a pretty great small zoo, and Bramble is one of those quaint very small town zoos. Neither will take a full day, Bramble could be done in a couple hours, but don't forget to explore the entrance building as it holds a number of exhibits.

For something to fill time in Sioux Falls, I highly recommend checking out Falls Park which is a beautiful place to spend an hour to two.
 
A few developments happened:

1) The summer trip will most likely be Atlanta instead of Tulsa. My mom wants to see the pandas before they go and it's so rare that anyone else wants to go on one of these trips that I'll happily move things around for her.

2) I am now in Sioux Falls! It was a very long day of driving, but Iowa isn't really the most challenging state to drive through. Far from the worst single-day drive I've had. I thought about stopping at one of the three small zoos on the way but I went to Blank Park and NMRM recently enough. I wanted to go back to Cosley because they had a lot of fun signs up about their master plan when I visited pre-pandemic. Checked their map and not a single one of those plans came to fruition. It's the exact same layout as when I first visited about five years ago. A little disappointing.

3) Tomorrow is my birthday. Plan to go to the Great Plains Zoo, butterfly house, and Falls Park before driving up to Watertown for Bramble Park / Mall of America / maybe something else in the twin cities Saturday.

4) Looks like I might get snow for the Minnesota Zoo Sunday. Very much looking forward to it.
 
A few developments happened:

1) The summer trip will most likely be Atlanta instead of Tulsa. My mom wants to see the pandas before they go and it's so rare that anyone else wants to go on one of these trips that I'll happily move things around for her.

2) I am now in Sioux Falls! It was a very long day of driving, but Iowa isn't really the most challenging state to drive through. Far from the worst single-day drive I've had. I thought about stopping at one of the three small zoos on the way but I went to Blank Park and NMRM recently enough. I wanted to go back to Cosley because they had a lot of fun signs up about their master plan when I visited pre-pandemic. Checked their map and not a single one of those plans came to fruition. It's the exact same layout as when I first visited about five years ago. A little disappointing.

3) Tomorrow is my birthday. Plan to go to the Great Plains Zoo, butterfly house, and Falls Park before driving up to Watertown for Bramble Park / Mall of America / maybe something else in the twin cities Saturday.

4) Looks like I might get snow for the Minnesota Zoo Sunday. Very much looking forward to it.
Happy birthday and look forward to your reviews! I'm especially curious for a fresh perspective on Atlanta as I came very close to booking a trip last winter.
 
Happy birthday and look forward to your reviews! I'm especially curious for a fresh perspective on Atlanta as I came very close to booking a trip last winter.

I'm afraid I can't give you a fresh perspective. I have been before, but that was before I started the quest to visit every AZA zoo and put all the old ones back on the table. Wanted to revisit the Georgia Aquarium, anyway, so I was fine going back to Atlanta. Zoo Atlanta has a lot going for it as far as I remember. A good gorilla complex, a surprisingly good reptile house, a few Asian rarities, and the pandas. And also a godawful Africa area. I'm told they've fixed up some of the Africa section and lost most of the rarities (they still had sun bears and raccoon dogs when I went). Curious to see how it holds up now as they prepare to lose their pandas and enter a new era.

Went to three places. Going to do a new kind of thing with one. I'll explain later.

Butterfly House and Aquarium

It was a little less impressive than I was expecting in many ways, and better in a few. As a dedicated butterfly house it's similar to some of the better ones I've been to like the one in St. Louis and the Indianapolis Zoo's. A full room with plants and a water feature or two. It had butterflies. You could feed them out of flower shaped cups (I did not). There was a pretty large area accessible to two native turtle species and king quail. I don't remember seeing king quail before and they are really, really cute. One was sitting on her eggs in a flowerpot tipped on its side. I thought their size let them work very well with the whimsical world of a butterfly house.

The tanks for herps and fish were nothing special. The aquarium signage was so bad I didn't even try a species list, which is a real shame because there were definitely species there that were unsigned and I'd rarely seen before. Some really pretty reef fish. Short-tailed nurse sharks were unsigned but present. Also had marbled jellyfish, yellow-headed jawfish, engineer gobies, and lumpfish. Pretty good selection for a one-room aquarium in South Dakota attached to a butterfly house. I wished there was a docent to ask but the only staff member I saw in the aquarium was clearly an aquarist busy with their job. There's an open-top tank that is not a touch tank. Kind of surprised that wasn't supervised.

The herp selection wasn't exceptional. A few fun cockroaches but not a dedicated insect zoo like the Butterfly House in St. Louis. The one that I don't remember seeing before was the Devil's Flower Mantis. I spent a very long time looking for it before realizing it was clinging to the mesh roof.

It's a good trip. You can buy a double-pack of tickets with the Great Plains Zoo and save some money. The two combined feels like a proper zoo experience, and for $21 it's probably worth it.

Falls Park

A free city park in the heart of Sioux Falls. There's some good signage on the history of the falls and the city, although it's pretty disappointing that they're just a shadow of their former self. The biggest fall is about twenty feet high. No Niagara, but still pretty impressive. They also let you climb on the rocks and get pretty close to the water. I did not as I did not trust my shoes to keep traction on wet rock. There's an observation tower but it's kind of wasted because there's just not much to see from it. Only worth it because it's free and there's an elevator. It's a good way to kill an hour. Would recommend going if you're ever visiting the zoo and have some time to kill.

Great Plains Zoo

It was better than I was expecting! Granted, my expectations were low. There used to be a sizable museum on property but it's closed because the old specimens had asbestos / arsenic in them and they aren't sure they have the budget to retrofit them. Can't fault them. Best not to expose their employees unnecessarily. The only part of the museum that's open is the cafe, gift shop, and an exhibit for hornbills and dwarf meerkats. The meerkats had climbing structures that they were using, a layer of substrate to dig in, and an exercise wheel for zoomies. The exercise wheel was incredibly popular and the mongoose kept lining up in single-file lines to run in it. The wheel's an ingeniously simply way to exercise energetic animals that don't get big exhibits in zoos. Surprised the meerkats didn't have one.

The park is split into rough zoogeographic areas, although the borders kind of break down a little. The front of the park has an Asia section with macaques, Chinese alligators, komodo dragons in an enclosed area, Pallas cats, snow leopards, and amur tigers. The alligators and dragons were off display. The komodo dragon house could not be entered.

Both the big cats were sleeping on straw beds placed right against the glass. The tiger exhibit is fairly good for a small zoo. Water feature, different elevations, decent space. It's not the best I've seen but it serves its purpose. The snow leopard exhibit is one of the only ones in the zoo with a netted roof but it's really low and the elevation changes amount to a few small rock piles. It's still a little more space than I'm used to snow leopards getting but it's disappointing that there's no verticality for them. The Pallas cat exhibit felt too small for a cat that size. Or maybe Brookfield earlier in the month spoiled me with a large, highly vertical exhibit for their cat. The snow monkeys had some climbing structures and a water feature. I only saw two macaques and neither moved. I feel like I can't really judge it well.

The North America section has a genuinely excellent red fox exhibit with a fair bit of space and a burrow. The adjacent wolf exhibit is... fine. A little small. Especially since they seemed to have a pack of six. They were active and exhibiting pack behavior, including a howling session towards the end of the day. Just wish they had a little more room to run in. The exhibits for black and brown bears are among the best from a small zoo that didn't just fence off natural habitat. The black bear had a climbing structure. The brown bears had water features and patches of natural substrate to dig in. Exhibit size wasn't mind-blowing but it was decent, especially for the size of the zoo.

North America / The Americas also had exhibits for flamingoes and Galapagos tortoises as well as an ambassador animal yard. All were unoccupied. The flamingoes didn't seem to have that much water. There's also a small indoor area with tegu, bats, and snakes. The bat exhibit felt way too small for the species. About the size and quality of Milwaukee's vampire bat exhibit, but for Seba's. I won't call it the worst exhibit in the zoo because, trust me, that's bad, but it's up there. Next to the rainforest building as it's called (it's one hallway with five or so terrariums) is a set of aviaries for macaws and rainbow lorikeets, neither of which were out.

North America also has the zoo's best exhibit. It's basically just a large grassland with some trees that they fenced off and put bison and mule deer in. There's a small area separated by a concrete barrier that the mule deer can presumably get to but the bison probably won't. I did not see the deer. The bison were mostly at an angle where they were all but out of view. Kind of weird they get a privacy angle like that on such a large exhibit, but I won't complain.

The zoo is actually pretty good about animal privacy. Most species had the option to be off-show.

To the west of the entry / Komodo area there's a whole bunch of stuff that isn't zoogeographically themed. There's an expansive area consisting of a wooded island and banks, a fair amount of flat space, and a lot of water with a bridge over it home to... a pelican that was off exhibit and Canada geese. The zoo is on a river / stream. It's already overflowing with Canada geese. They did not have to bring their own. Next to it is a fairly standard caprid mountain with bighorn sheep. They were all on the ground. It was one of the nicer mountains I've seen, though, and the caprids had actual grass. Next to that is a large picnic area. Across the way is a primate house with decent indoor-outdoor holdings for squirrel monkeys, colobus monkeys, and ring-tailed lemurs. It's an older building but still seems to be satisfactory. Not big enough to have much signage, though.

Nearby is a penguin exhibit. Oh, cool, an iconic cold weather species. Good choice for a South Dakota zoo... No. The penguins were indoors. In March. In South Dakota. The pool was drained. I guess they can't heat it to keep it from freezing. Anyway, the penguins had an admittedly pretty okay indoor area they shared with inca tern. There was a chart outlining who the penguins were, how they were related, and what their personalities were. The bears and big cats had similar charts. I liked that a lot. More zoos should have those.

The flamingoes have indoor viewing and it's actually pretty decent for a concrete room. Lot of water. Pads and faux grass put on almost all the floor to keep them from walking on concrete. They might have even been flighted in the winter as there was a perch attached to the wall. None of the flamingoes were on it.

Finally, there's a barn and barn-adjacent area. There's a small building with a few herps, none exceptional, and pretty good habitats for a flightless hawk and bald eagle. The red pandas were being fed and actively eating their bamboo. Seemed to have a decent amount of space between two enclosures and a solid amount of verticality. It's not an award winning exhibit or anything but it's good for a small zoo. Next to the building was a large sloped habitat with a pop-up window in the middle. It was home to a leopard tortoise. That was probably off display for the winter. I do not understand.

The only farm animals were sheep, goats, pigs, and chickens. The chickens were confined to a coop that seemed too small for such large birds. The goats and sheep only had access to half of the potential yards. The pigs were fine. I dunno. Farm struck me as kind of weird.

The rest of the area to the left of the entry is an Australia zoogeographic area. Kind of? The walkthrough area was closed and bizarrely enough the macropods weren't allowed into it, either. They were confined to smaller side enclosures. They weren't actively cleaning it or doing landscaping or anything. Other than that the only Australian animals in the area are singing dogs. The rest of the area is made up of alpaca, which had little signage, and bactrian camels and sheep whose signage connected them to the feral populations in Australia. There was also an unoccupied aviary for Australian birds that looked pretty nice, actually.

And now we come to Africa. Because every zoo's largest section must be Africa. There's a lion exhibit under construction that actually looks pretty modern. Should be one of the best in a small American zoo. The rhinos have a 2010 exhibit with decent outdoor space and atrocious indoor holding, even if the room was fairly big. The only saving grace is that the animals apparently had the choice to be outdoors or indoors. The only toy the rhino had was a single barrel. Otherwise it was just an empty concrete room. I get that ungulates don't have the highest enrichment needs but it was kind of sad.

You know what isn't kind of sad, though? It's the giraffe winter holding. Now, look, I have more animal rights sympathies than most on this board. But I'd hope that we can all agree that a giraffe should not be confined for months in an area smaller than my one bedroom apartment. I have no idea how this is acceptable in the modern era or how the AZA hasn't mandated better holding for giraffes in northern zoos because it's starting to look like a chronic problem. The holding building also had meerkats so I guess it has some value in the summer.

As for the African savannah area, the outdoor giraffe exhibit looked okay. The African painted dogs had an exhibit that was bigger than many I've seen at much larger zoos. I was genuinely impressed. There's also a fairly large yard for a sulcatta tortoise who was off display.

And now I introduce you to the grand savannah, a massive piece of grass with a train route looping around it. About the size of the bison exhibit, if not bigger. Home to zebra and bongo... in a tiny corner of it, fenced off and across the stream from guest view. Most of the savannah isn't even an enclosure. It's just a lot of grass. It's genuinely in the top five most baffling things I've seen in a zoo.

I think I've given a pretty decent tour now. So here's where I do a new thing. The Great Plains Zoo put out a new master plan on Wednesday. I have not read it. While going through I kept an eye on how the exhibits actually looked, where trees were, how hard changes would be, how large empty spaces were, and tried to come up with my own master plan that would be realistic with the zoo's probable budget. There ended up being a few expensive projects but I'll try to present alternatives to them in case they proved to be too much. So, here it is. The master plan I would pitch to the Great Plains Zoo. And once this is done I will actually read the master plan, summarize it, and see how far off I was.

I would work to enhance the zoogeographic theming in the front half of the zoo. The Asia area would be expanded to include some of the unrelated exhibits such as the bighorn sheep and Canada goose pond. First change, I think the Pallas cat should be replaced with birds or squirrels. They fit the exhibit size better and the zoo is seriously lacking in birds (although that might just be the time of year I visited). Second, the snow leopard should get a higher ceiling and an actual climbing structure. The first big change, and one that I know probably won't happen, is that I would replace the komodo dragon area with an actual greenhouse. This would allow for year-round viewing and the new building could also provide updated holding space for the adjacent tropical animals in the winter. This would require some expansion into the pelican exhibit, but that was getting overhauled anyway.

I would split the pelican exhibit in two along the bridge. On one side would be small-clawed otters because there's a fair bit of water and land and how does this zoo not have otters. Every zoo should have otters. They're crowd-pleasers that don't take too much space. River otters could also work if they were ignoring the zoogeographic theme and wanted something that could be out year-round. Some trees would need hot-wired or removed so the otters couldn't climb out. On the other side I would put either tapirs, babirusa or mutnjacs and a few Asian waterfowl and turtles. Tapir might need too much holding space. Muntjacs or chevrotains wouldn't but are a bit small for the space. Babirusa are more likely to attack turtles or waterfowl. Take your pick. I think there's some adjacent space that could be used for tapir holding, but it might not be enough.

I would like to get rid of the caprid mountain and replace it with a red-crowned crane aviary for more birds and compliment the snow monkeys. But there's, like, a zero percent chance that happens so at least they could put in gorals instead of bighorn sheep. Lake Superior and New Zoo have gorals and they aren't very big. If they want to keep the bighorn sheep they could build a new caprid structure in the bison paddock so the goats could have a place to retreat from bison. Would also add another species to the exhibit.

The Chinese Alligators are kind of weird being right across from kangaroos but honestly I can't see the zoo getting freshies and there's nothing better for that exhibit so I say leave it be. I'd replace the alpaca yard with either a red fox exhibit (spoilers, they're getting booted from North America) or a lorikeet aviary and winter holding. Camels and singing dogs can stay. I'd replace the sheep exhibit in Australia with emu. For the primate building I'd give tree kangaroos the area now occupied by colobus monkeys and then, on the other side, have two other arboreal species to compare and contrast in signage and maybe a skeleton model lineup. The ring-tailed lemurs can stay. They're iconic and I couldn't fit them elsewhere. Island primates, close enough. I'd put a cockatoo in the squirrel monkey area. I think they could do well in a primate exhibit and some of them are Australian. If the foxes don't make it into the alpaca area there are two 0.1 acre plots beside the house that could be used for them and maybe kookaburra if they can't go in the main Australia aviary. Feels wrong to have an Australia section without kookaburras.

As for the picnic field, I'm of two minds. It could just be left alone. There isn't another picnic area in the zoo. But it feels like a lot of wasted space. It's 0.7 acres, which is more than enough for a modern sea lion exhibit. Now, California sea lions don't live in Australia. But it would be easy enough to tie Australia to ocean and make it work. Sea lions are also another iconic cold weather animal that I've seen northern zoos keep outdoors. Riverbank's sea lion complex and Ft. Wayne's Australia aquarium could both fit in that space for a small aquarium complex.

I would find a way to give the chickens more space and also give the goats one of those overhead paths between paddocks that zoos love so much nowadays. It's popular for a reason and it's because they're really cool. The hawk / eagle / red panda building makes it through with zero changes. The leopard tortoise exhibit should be slightly modified for prairie dogs. Another species I'm shocked they don't have and it works well with the bubble in the middle.

Back to North America for a bit. Easiest section by far. The bear exhibits are among the best in the zoo and are going untouched. Same for the bison. I would merge the wolf and fox exhibits to give the wolves more space. It would be cool to have actual American birds instead of the lorikeets. Monk parakeets, maybe, if they could swing it. Or just have screech owls or something. I would also merge the tortoise and flamingo yards and expand the water area. Flamingoes and tortoises have been mixed at other zoos and I think the tortoises would appreciate a shallow pool to wallow in during the summer.

And... Africa. I would replace the outdoor giraffe area with cheetahs. They're a little more cold tolerant. I would do leopards since they could have a climbing structure alongside the elevated viewing platform, but i don't think they would want to net over the entire area. And then a very obvious change: fence off the savannah. Put the zebra, bongos, and tortoises in there. Maybe giraffes if they can afford better winter housing, but at this point I'm deeply skeptical on small zoos keeping giraffes in cold weather. Toss in ostriches and wildebeest and, bam, instant savannah exhibit. New savannah would be seven acres. About twenty times the size of the current zebra / bongo exhibit. Old giraffe housing can be demolished if the zoo isn't keeping giraffes anymore. Could maybe put (Amur) leopards in the outside yards and repurpose the inside into a Congo building with an aviary, fish, and herps. They don't really need to keep the meerkats since they have dwarf mongoose but if they insist they could probably fence off a small portion of the Africa area somewhere. Or put them in the current leopard tortoise exhibit. Whichever works.

I have never been in the Delbridge museum and can't comment on it but it would be cool if they made it into a proper museum on the Great Plains with some smaller species like loggerhead shrikes, black-footed ferrets, and burrowing owls alongside the taxidermy and display pieces.

Okay. Time to read the actual master plan.

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A few things I got right: wolf / fox areas merging. There is some expansion in the Africa area, with giraffe / bongo taking up a lot of currently unused space (and getting better holding) and zebras getting the wild dog exhibit and some of the unused space. Wild dogs moving into the old giraffe area. They are keeping the mountain but there's no indication of which species will be there.

Overall, they're a lot more ambitious than I was in some ways. Except the entrance. It seems like that's staying the same. I hope they at least get better waterfowl. The pallas cat exhibit is getting expanded and the snow leopards are moving, which is good. The red pandas are taking over the area around the very underwhelming tropical rainforest building. Even getting some raptors out by the bison. All good stuff. A little confused since the tigers are staying in the cat area and also taking over almost all of the Australia pens, save the kangaroo space. That's becoming a new primate complex. The old primate complex, Australian aviary, and the picnic space are getting bulldozed for a new kangaroo yard and maybe something else.

It seems like the barn's going away entirely in favor of an otter habitat and a nature play area. As for the museum? That's becoming a new aquarium and butterfly house. Apparently on a much grander scale than the current facility with a walkthrough tunnel with large sharks / sea turtles swimming around.

So. Seems my main problem was assuming they'd keep the zoogeographic theming lol. Are my plans better or worse than what we're getting? Well, I'm a little disappointed there isn't a massive savannah since they have the space, but I get that those are a bit overdone. The new areas for zebras and bongo / giraffe look pretty good-sized at least. New tiger habitat is going to be good for the species. Looks like a lot of the bigger species are getting habitat size increases.

It's such a small thing, but I honestly can't believe they're entirely scrapping the farm. Zoos have farms! That's, like, a rule! And no penguins! I get that they'd have to make major changes to the exhibit to keep them, and they might just be moving to the aquarium, but no penguins! How dare they! Oh well. If the master plan is realized it'll be a much stronger zoo than it is now. Here's hoping they move on the giraffe holding quickly.
 
Bramble Park Zoo

Oh hey it's the best AZA zoo in South Dakota. I was pleasantly surprised by this one. Almost entirely cold weather animals outdoors, except for birds and primates. An actual building for tropical species and fish. Great Plains Zoo could take notes.

A few general comments. Will maybe have more when I post the species list later. First, signage was a bit lackluster, especially in the Discovery Center. Honestly, though, if I hadn't been doing a species list I wouldn't have noticed save for one small thing. Or big thing. Ambassador exhibits. During my trip I saw a number of reptiles, a striped skunk, a degu, prairie dogs, and an opossum on display. None had signage of any kind. I get that they might not permanently be in those spaces, but it was very annoying.

There's a wall of Amazon fish, gourami, cichlids, and an alligator snapping turtle in six different tanks. They really should just merge them into one or two tanks properly sized for their inhabitants. The pacu and giant gourami looked cramped. I did get to see the alligator snapping turtle hunting. Opened his jaw and started waggling his tongue. There were two fish in the tank with him and for a moment I was the most tense I've ever felt at a zoo, watching the fish swim close to the mouth and then away. Both were still there when I left. I asked the employee at the ticket counter about it and learned that those two fish have been there a long time. They were put in there to be snapper food and either out of their own cleverness or the turtle's refusal to kill them, they remain.

There was a very friendly umbrella cockatoo in the discovery center who talked to me for a bit. The entry exhibit had a very beautiful pair of Lady Ross Turaco I watched for a long time at the start and end of the visit. The discovery center had a fair few artifacts from plains tribes with explanations for them. Throughout the zoo there were signs giving the native names for animals. I thought that was really cool.

Anyway, I saw no one at the zoo. Literally. I did not see a single other guest the entire time I was on the trails. And the weather wasn't even that bad! A lot of animals were being attentive to the lone human as a result. The otters made sure to check me out and see if I had food. They were also swimming despite the cooler temps. The barnyard animals almost all wanted fed and I ended up blowing $2.50 on them and not having enough change left to feed birds later on. The exception was a pair of alpaca and their young kid who did not seem very interested in me. I'm guessing they're kept well fed for the moment. I also saw a domestic yak calf nursing elsewhere in the zoo.

There's a pretty nice waterfowl pond and three larger hoofstock paddocks for bison, yak, and bactrian camels. It was hard to tell what waterfowl were put there by the zoo and which were wild. I ended up just going off of the zoo's website for my species list since only the swans and mallards had any sort of signage. A pair of cranes were very interested in me (or the food I could throw them). They didn't have any kind of a water feature despite being right next to a pond. I wonder if the geese and swans would harass them too badly if they were given access.

The aviary had a large section for ring-necked pheasants with signage about a local pheasant hunting company. I am very unsure how to feel about that.

The alligators were visible in indoor holding and uh. I really hope they're in some form of brumation. That's not big enough for alligators to live in for half the year at full activity. Not as bad as the giraffe holding yesterday but not great.

The zoo had black bears, amur leopards, snow leopards, and amur tigers. The tigers were active, the others were resting. The exhibits all felt a bit small. It's not an insurmountable problem for the zoo, though, because they have plenty of unutilized or underutilized space to build new exhibits. As for their other large carnivorans, the gray wolf exhibit was good and the coyote was at least an elderly individual who probably didn't need a massive exhibit. Species might be getting phased out anyway.

They had four red-tailed hawks in an aviary and they were being pretty active. Same for ravens, who were mixed with Andean condors. The condors were just perching. The ravens were constantly flying around a pretty large space. The bald eagles had a similarly sized aviary. I was expecting kind of bad aviaries because of harsh winters but they were some of the best bird of prey aviaries I've seen in a small zoo.

The black-and-white ruffed lemurs were extremely vocal and I did not realize they were that loud. It was about feeding time and they were making their displeasure known. It wasn't really a world class lemur exhibit or anything but it was functional for the species and groups. One of those primate exhibits made a lot better by the mesh walls allowing for climbing.

There was a large, non-walkthrough, single-species exhibit for red kangaroo and I didn't know zoos were allowed to do that.

The final, greatest highlight of the trip: there are wild prairie dogs in the bactrian camel exhibit. They have their own burrows so they clearly live there. The camel fence could easily be bypassed by small creatures. I'm guessing they could dig under the perimeter if they wanted. I talked with the employee at the entry and she was pretty sure they were truly wild rather than free-ranging like the peafowl. Way cooler than the usual canada geese and occasional raccoon I see free in zoos. I watched them for a while before deciding it was time to head out.

Again, it's not a world class zoo or anything. It's still a lot better than you'd expect from a town of 23,000 people. Better than I'd expect from a city ten times larger than Watertown. Not worth a dedicated trip but if you're driving through the area, definitely stop by.

Sea Life Minnesota

Anyone have an idea why this one isn't AZA accredited? Because it feels like by far the best one I've been to in the chain. Clearly a difference between building an aquarium with the mall and building one in the space formerly occupied by a big box store. The theming in the rainforest area was surprisingly good, although I wish they did something to disguise the metal ceiling and lights. Difference between them and even a place like Wonders of Wildlife. A Sea Life facility with caimans, arapaima, alligator gars, full size sturgeon, sawfish, and bowmouth guitarfish is genuinely surreal. Even the filler exhibits like the four-eyed fish, seahorses, and Nemos and Dories didn't feel superfluous. A lot of adults seemed to like the four-eyed fish even though they were pretty small. Oh, and the combination of a hall of mirrors with lots of different color-changing jelly tanks was really cool. Maybe my favorite jelly display so far.

I do have one complaint: lines and pacing. I spent 45 minutes in the aquarium and was almost certainly one of the slowest. The line to get in was 20 minutes. I get it. They can't control who shows up when...

But they can. Tickets have return times. Why are they backing things up so much if they could just reduce the number of people who can come to those they can admit. Even once I got in the narrow paths of the Amazon section meant that I could never take more than half a step in any direction until I reached the first tunnel. It got really bad at the caiman exhibit where the line got squeezed to single-file around the crowd of kids waiting to go into the pop-up tunnel. It's not the most uncomfortable I've felt in an aquarium - that was Ripley's of Canada where people were literally slamming into me and I was scared I would be trampled or die of crowd crush if an alarm went off or something. This was only a little less bad. If they're going to have timed tickets, they really need to capitalize on that. I would gladly wait a little longer if I didn't have to be packed against strangers for thirty minutes.

Mall of America

I went in with rock bottom expectations. I do not like malls. I wasn't really planning to do anything but dinner and the aquarium. I didn't do anything but dinner and the aquarium. It was still really fun to see everything there. I've seen the malls that Merlin moves into and they're still fundamentally malls with an entertainment complex jammed into half of it. This felt like an entertainment complex that happened to have retail and two anchor stores. Two separate mini golf courses, a zip line, whatever Crayola needed so much space for, a full theme park... it's a lot. More than I was expecting. Next time I come I might actually hit up some of the entertainment options. If the weather were any better I would have done the log flume, but I would really like it if my jeans were dry for tomorrow. Worth a visit, even if you don't buy anything. Parking is free.

Anyway I went to a rainforest cafe that has clearly seen better days, got seated immediately at dinner time on a holiday weekend, and then paid $50 after tip and tax for a plate of coconut shrimp and fries I could not bring myself to finish and an admittedly really good smoothie with a souvenir glass. If you must go to rainforest cafe sit at the bar, get a drink or two, and maybe a desert. I'm told those are good. The food is a losing game.
 
Minnesota Zoo

I was not expecting to like Mall of America. I was not expecting the South Dakota zoos to be particularly good. Stopping in the twin cities on the way back was the only thing that made this trip worth it.

There might be zoos with more and rarer species and more interesting architecture and more historical importance, but in terms of quality of exhibits for what they do have Minnesota has been unmatched in the conventional zoos I've been to. There are only two exhibits that I think are beneath industry standard for the species and a lot that are (among) the best in the nation for their inhabitants. I was surprised by how well the entry building and Minnesota Trail work as an essentially one building zoo. Two decent aquariums, a nice indoor rainforest, and some pretty good native species exhibits. I got to see the racoons being fed through their stream, leading to a lot of fishing behaviors and a flurry of activity from three juveniles. The fisher seems to like resting in a hollow log right against the glass. The black bears, lynx, and beavers were no-shows. Tropics Trail is better than it has any right to be going on fifty years. Other than the gourami tank none of the exhibits felt beneath industry standards for their inhabitants. The great argus and rhinoceros hornbill were calling back and forth. The komodo dragon was active. Seeing the reef from above and the side is a neat experience. I know the collection's thinned a little in recent years but it's still a really good indoor rainforest complex.

And the indoor part is far weaker than grizzly coast / the northern trail. The brown bears were in torpor, the takin seemed to be behind the scenes, the prairie dog exhibit is being renovated, and I'm not sure I saw the domestic horse. It's really incredible that the domestic horse pasture is somehow larger than many mixed-species savannah exhibits I've seen. And it's far from an anomaly. Everything feels really spacious (except for the leopard exhibits, they always get shafted). Seeing moose is always a delight. The tiger in the larger exhibit was moving around. He made sure to always step into his previous footsteps when walking through snow to minimize the amount he sunk in. A very sensible cat.

It's genuinely incredible that this zoo exists. But, uh, there are weaknesses showing.

With the loss of the boar and dhole the only rare animals on the trail are the moose and sea otter. The bactrian camels and reindeer are (mostly) domestics. Other than the coyotes (and summer guinea pigs) the only animals between the tigers and... the tigers are domestics and hoofstock. Don't get me wrong, I love hoofstock. It's nice to just sit down for a long time and watch them graze. I'm not sure how much the average zoo guest likes hoofstock and it's a fairly long walk to see them. It feels like they really need another species or complex out there, and they definitely have the space. The utter lack of changes to the dhole house at least gives me hope that they might somehow get more.

I walked part of the treetop trail between the bison and nature center. It's cool, I guess, but it feels objectively worse than the main path since there's no signage. Doesn't even tell you what you're looking at. As for the nature center it... isn't. More of a small art gallery. Which is fine. Just don't know why they call it something it's not.

This review has been oddly critical and I'm about to make it more so but I really, really do love this place. There are two below-standard-quality exhibits. The gourami exhibit could be fixed by just removing the poor gourami. It's fine for the other inhabitants. I'm not sure if the cow exhibit is meant to be subversive anti-farm propaganda or if a display of milking cow living conditions juxtaposed with the massive paddocks of the northern trail just makes it look like that. The cougar and leopard exhibits are of typical quality for their species but it's especially disappointing in Minnesota, a zoo with the best tiger exhibit in the country. They should really know how to give big cats the space they need to thrive.

The seal tank is more than enough for a geriatric pinniped. Bit concerning that they recently had dolphins in it. Zookeeper at the raccoon feeding said that there was going to be another species added soon to replace the dolphins in rotation, but she didn't know what it was or when it was coming. There go my hopes of a full renovation lol. It's still almost surreal seeing the last monk seal on the American mainland and knowing that the odds of seeing another one outside Hawaii in my lifetime are quite slim. What a gorgeous creature.

Anyway. I still adore this zoo. Probably my third favorite conventional zoo, behind Columbus and St. Louis. The flaws in the northern trail collection are still starting to show with the loss of the dhole and boar. I do hope they get a good fundraising campaign or a budget grant from the state for a new complex at some point this decade. Since what's there is almost universally good they're one of the only major zoos that can afford to put its money into pure expansion rather than replacing old, flawed complexes.
 
Where were the Domestic Horses? There's always been some on the farm but I thought it was too early in the year for that to be open. Do you mean the Przewalski's?

I'm assuming you, like probably 90% of visitors, also missed the Mussel Cabin? It's not much from an exhibitry standpoint but it's home to some of the rarest species in the zoo.
 
Where were the Domestic Horses? There's always been some on the farm but I thought it was too early in the year for that to be open. Do you mean the Przewalski's?

I'm assuming you, like probably 90% of visitors, also missed the Mussel Cabin? It's not much from an exhibitry standpoint but it's home to some of the rarest species in the zoo.

Farm was open. Saw all the animals there but the horses.

I skipped the mussel cabin this time because it was pretty far out of the way and my feet were aching. Wish they moved the display into the Minnesota Trail.
 
I've enjoyed reading this thread, covering South Dakota zoos I'm not too familiar along with a pair of Minnesota facilities I've visited many times. I think your assessment of the Minnesota Zoo is spot on. Still an excellent zoo but not quite at the level it was a decade ago because the outdoor section (Russia Grizzly Coast and Northern Trail) is currently lacking in filler species, underutilizing its massive ungulate paddocks, and has an overreliance on domestics or repeat species.

On the filler side, there's really only the carp right now, with boar being gone and prairie dog off exhibit. There used to be waterfowl (deaccessioned), arctic fox (exhibit next to bridge over main lake now is abandoned) and meerkats (exhibit replaced by playground) as well. Ungulate paddocks used to hold additional rare species -- muskox, woodland caribou, and goitered gazelle have all departed in the last 5 years. Formerly there was usually at least one mixed species exhibit as well (bison/pronghorn, bison/elk, wild horse/camel, camel/gazelle, not to mention the temporary giraffe/antelope and kangaroo/wallaby mixes in the llama trek area). At one time there were no repeats either -- even one of the tiger exhibits once held lions. The zoo could bring in new species without having to actually incur any infrastructure costs, so I'm optimistic that at least some of this downgrading will eventually be reversed.

I do have one question regarding Bramble Park regarding one of your observations:

The final, greatest highlight of the trip: there are wild prairie dogs in the bactrian camel exhibit. They have their own burrows so they clearly live there. The camel fence could easily be bypassed by small creatures. I'm guessing they could dig under the perimeter if they wanted. I talked with the employee at the entry and she was pretty sure they were truly wild rather than free-ranging like the peafowl. Way cooler than the usual canada geese and occasional raccoon I see free in zoos. I watched them for a while before deciding it was time to head out.

Were these rodents signed in any way? The reason I ask is because this part of South Dakota is outside the native range of Prairie Dogs. There is a local lookalike, Richardson's Ground Squirrel, colloquially called Flickertails. Wouldn't surprise me if they were free-ranging Prairie Dogs though, similar to the situation at Omaha.
 
I've enjoyed reading this thread, covering South Dakota zoos I'm not too familiar along with a pair of Minnesota facilities I've visited many times. I think your assessment of the Minnesota Zoo is spot on. Still an excellent zoo but not quite at the level it was a decade ago because the outdoor section (Russia Grizzly Coast and Northern Trail) is currently lacking in filler species, underutilizing its massive ungulate paddocks, and has an overreliance on domestics or repeat species.

On the filler side, there's really only the carp right now, with boar being gone and prairie dog off exhibit. There used to be waterfowl (deaccessioned), arctic fox (exhibit next to bridge over main lake now is abandoned) and meerkats (exhibit replaced by playground) as well. Ungulate paddocks used to hold additional rare species -- muskox, woodland caribou, and goitered gazelle have all departed in the last 5 years. Formerly there was usually at least one mixed species exhibit as well (bison/pronghorn, bison/elk, wild horse/camel, camel/gazelle, not to mention the temporary giraffe/antelope and kangaroo/wallaby mixes in the llama trek area). At one time there were no repeats either -- even one of the tiger exhibits once held lions. The zoo could bring in new species without having to actually incur any infrastructure costs, so I'm optimistic that at least some of this downgrading will eventually be reversed.

I do have one question regarding Bramble Park regarding one of your observations:



Were these rodents signed in any way? The reason I ask is because this part of South Dakota is outside the native range of Prairie Dogs. There is a local lookalike, Richardson's Ground Squirrel, colloquially called Flickertails. Wouldn't surprise me if they were free-ranging Prairie Dogs though, similar to the situation at Omaha.

Re: Prairie Dogs. It’s possible they’re free roaming. The only prairie dog signage was by the yak exhibit where they definitely were not. The attendant at the exit said that she sees them all the time in the nearby area. Could be roaming prairie dogs, could be wild ground squirrels. Hard to say.
 
Re: Prairie Dogs. It’s possible they’re free roaming. The only prairie dog signage was by the yak exhibit where they definitely were not. The attendant at the exit said that she sees them all the time in the nearby area. Could be roaming prairie dogs, could be wild ground squirrels. Hard to say.
Prairie dogs do not occur in Minnesota and a release of them would be illegal. She probably sees wild Thirteen-lined Ground Squirrels.
 
I've visited the Butterfly House & Aquarium (2018), Great Plains Zoo (2012 and 2018), Bramble Park Zoo (2014), Sea Life Minnesota (2014) and Minnesota Zoo (2008 and 2014), therefore I really enjoyed reading your reviews of those 5 zoos. The new Master-Plan for Great Plains Zoo was recently released, and it looks highly ambitious. Meanwhile, Minnesota Zoo has been treading water for a decade and if anything has struggled to maintain its progress.
 
I've visited the Butterfly House & Aquarium (2018), Great Plains Zoo (2012 and 2018), Bramble Park Zoo (2014), Sea Life Minnesota (2014) and Minnesota Zoo (2008 and 2014), therefore I really enjoyed reading your reviews of those 5 zoos. The new Master-Plan for Great Plains Zoo was recently released, and it looks highly ambitious. Meanwhile, Minnesota Zoo has been treading water for a decade and if anything has struggled to maintain its progress.

If GPZ actually achieves their master plan they will be one of the greatest small city zoos in the United States. I was very surprised by how much more ambitious it was than what I expected from a master plan for a zoo that size. What I could see of the lion exhibit looked quite good. I’m cautiously optimistic they can pull it off. For now, though, they’re a fairly typical small zoo comparable to Henry Vilas or Lake Superior.

Minnesota Zoo reminded me first and foremost of North Carolina, but with a higher average exhibit quality and a substantially weaker collection. After the obvious comparison it reminded me more of Brookfield. Not precisely in form, Brookfield feels more like a campus of small museums than one building and a massive trail, but in vibes. They’re both still great. I can’t shake the feeling from either of them, though, that this was a titan of the 90s or 00s that has been resting on its laurels and slowly withering away. Both are also the larger outskirts facilities to good, compact inner city zoos. They have different problems, too. Brookfield needs to do a lot of renovations to adapt old exhibits to a new era and it looks like they might finally have the money to do it. Minnesota needs to do very little of that but may not be able to find even the money for that.

(I know Brookfield is probably more comparable to Bronx but I have not been to any of the WCS zoos and only know of Bronx by reputation.)


For a more through wrap-up, it was a nice trip. Nothing grand and I’ve come to dislike how isolating it can feel to be alone, away from the people I know for the better part of a week. Minnesota’s always a treat. Shame I couldn’t visit the ICF campus due to the season. It’s one of my favorite overlooked gems. Hopefully I’ll be able to swing by again whenever I knock out the North Dakota zoos.

I have no idea what trip is next. Memphis? Atlanta? A lot of it depends on whether or not I get a job in Indianapolis and what my moving timetable looks like for that. If I don’t get the job I’ll probably hit up Atlanta next month. If I do I’ll probably do a mid-summer visit to Memphis and a late-summer trip to Atlanta. I am looking forward to those trips far more than most.
 
After the obvious comparison it reminded me more of Brookfield. Not precisely in form, Brookfield feels more like a campus of small museums than one building and a massive trail, but in vibes. They’re both still great. I can’t shake the feeling from either of them, though, that this was a titan of the 90s or 00s that has been resting on its laurels and slowly withering away. Both are also the larger outskirts facilities to good, compact inner city zoos. They have different problems, too. Brookfield needs to do a lot of renovations to adapt old exhibits to a new era and it looks like they might finally have the money to do it. Minnesota needs to do very little of that but may not be able to find even the money for that.
Such an interesting comparison and I can see exactly why. I think a key difference is also in how these zoos spent their money in the 90s/00s burst of excitement though -- Brookfield spent more of that period adapting older buildings into immersion exhibits, whereas from what I understand it's largely the exterior habitats at Minnesota that underwent development during this time. I think this is part of why Minnesota's exhibits are so spoken highly of on zoochat, whereas Brookfield's indoor immersion exhibits tend to be overshadowed by the fewer outdoor exhibits which are still viewed as dated and are sometimes empty. Minnesota also seemed to owe some of its reputation to former rarities that have left the collection (wild boar, dhole, musk ox, etc.) whereas Brookfield's collection decline is less rarities and more phasing out megafauna that could conceivably return.

I actually completely agree about the vibes though. They are both former top ten zoos that have gone down the list, both of which could crawl back with a little elbow grease, and it's a shame only one of them looks ready to do the work.
 
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