Perth Zoo Perth Zoo Masterplan

Zoofan15 said:
I'd assume that while the gibbons have seperate habitats from the orangutans, there will be a shared aerial pathway that they rotate use of. This works well at Auckland Zoo with their Bornen orangutan and Siamang.

I agree mixing the two is too risky. There's been multiple incidents with great apes when mixed with gibbons or monkeys; with the risk outweighing what benefit they may receive from the interaction.
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Usually its vice versa; the gibbons are the ones terrorising the Orangs. This was the case at Melbourne when they tried to group their Saimangs and Sumatrans; and the same happened at San Diego for a while. But this has improved over time. I think it really just comes down to the individuals.
 
Jambo said:
Usually its vice versa; the gibbons are the ones terrorising the Orangs. This was the case at Melbourne when they tried to group their Saimangs and Sumatrans; and the same happened at San Diego for a while. But this has improved over time. I think it really just comes down to the individuals.
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That's how it starts and then the apes retaliate, causing injuries (sometimes fatal) to the gibbon or monkey that provoked them. Irian (Siamang) at Adelaide had his arm broken by an orangutan; and monkeys have been killed at other zoos.
 
Wasnt entirely sure which Perth Zoo thread was best to post this.

Very similar to the open range zoo for Perth concept in the metropolitan hinterland long discussed.

So it seems that in late 1999 an idea was floated by Cockburn Council in southern Perth that if an 82 hectare site (possibly bigger over 90 hectares) at suburb Bibra Lake, the site adjacent to Perth's biggest amusement park Adventure World and also adjacent to a large nature preserve/reserve and lake South Lake which also had significant Aboriginal cultural sites such as scarred (marked) trees.

Personally dont like the idea of a zoo so close to the noises of an amusement park but it was an interesting concept proposal to come across (if Perth Zoo had ever agreed to it, it would of meant an increase of more than 4 times the space as their South Perth site).

Believe there has been some desire by some about the land value of the zoo's actual site in South Perth for other developments; its a historically significant site however deep in history with the zoo and while on the smaller side (still twice as big as Adelaide Zoo's site) the zoo has done wonders with its site management and species over the decades and its current masterplan works excellently with the spatial limitations (e.g - Permai & Putra Mas the Elephants departing for Monarto very soon, a reduction in species over the decades to enlarge habitats for species chosen to keep holding).

The zoo had already been open at its South Perth site for 101 years when this idea was floated.

Thought would share what found and a google map outline of the site.

The location at Bibra Lake is about 22 minutes (20km) drive south from the actual zoo:

sources: City of Cockburn Ordinary Council agenda paper 21 December 1999 and
Google Earth:
Google Maps

The council report pages about: ECM_4193678_v1_Agenda-Ordinary-Council-Meeting-21-December-1999-pages.pdf


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It is a very good idea to move the zoo it probably never happen. The African Savannah looks very good and it interactive. But I think everyone in Perth wants a new zoo to open up.
 
Jaiden said:
It is a very good idea to move the zoo it probably never happen. The African Savannah looks very good and it interactive. But I think everyone in Perth wants a new zoo to open up.
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Perth Zoo would greatly benefit from an open range zoo supporting the exisiting city zoo. Like Taronga, they lack an approximate open range sister zoo in the tourism catchment area and so are obliged to exhibit species like white rhinoceros which are better suited to an open range environment.

In an ideal world, Perth Zoo would hold predominantly rainforest species, with an emphasis on primates and felids; while the open range zoo would primarily house large ungulates (elephants, rhinoceros, hippopotamus etc). There would presumably be some overlap - all main city zoos have retained lions and giraffes irregardless of whether they have an open range sister zoo in the vicinity; and an open range zoo in Perth could house either Western lowland gorilla or Common chimpanzee to compliment Perth’s Sumatran orangutan colony.
 
steveroberts said:
Wasnt entirely sure which Perth Zoo thread was best to post this.

Very similar to the open range zoo for Perth concept in the metropolitan hinterland long discussed.

So it seems that in late 1999 an idea was floated by Cockburn Council in southern Perth that if an 82 hectare site (possibly bigger over 90 hectares) at suburb Bibra Lake, the site adjacent to Perth's biggest amusement park Adventure World and also adjacent to a large nature preserve/reserve and lake South Lake which also had significant Aboriginal cultural sites such as scarred (marked) trees.

Personally dont like the idea of a zoo so close to the noises of an amusement park but it was an interesting concept proposal to come across (if Perth Zoo had ever agreed to it, it would of meant an increase of more than 4 times the space as their South Perth site).

Believe there has been some desire by some about the land value of the zoo's actual site in South Perth for other developments; its a historically significant site however deep in history with the zoo and while on the smaller side (still twice as big as Adelaide Zoo's site) the zoo has done wonders with its site management and species over the decades and its current masterplan works excellently with the spatial limitations (e.g - Permai & Putra Mas the Elephants departing for Monarto very soon, a reduction in species over the decades to enlarge habitats for species chosen to keep holding).

The zoo had already been open at its South Perth site for 101 years when this idea was floated.

Thought would share what found and a google map outline of the site.

The location at Bibra Lake is about 22 minutes (20km) drive south from the actual zoo:

sources: City of Cockburn Ordinary Council agenda paper 21 December 1999 and
Google Earth:
Google Maps

The council report pages about: ECM_4193678_v1_Agenda-Ordinary-Council-Meeting-21-December-1999-pages.pdf


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I do remember seeing on the tv news several years ago an announcement by some state politicians (a state minister I recall) and several zoo officials standing on a then chosen site for the Perth zoos open range zoo. I seem to recall that the main problem was lack of funding at that time. It's such a shame this never went ahead of giving Perth Zoo much more flexably when keeping some of the large game animals. I commented at the time perhaps one of the WA billionaires could not have stepped up at the time and donated the money towards its purchase. fourth Open Range zoo would have been ideal in working with the three existing zoos we now have.
 
Zorro said:
I do remember seeing on the tv news several years ago an announcement by some state politicians (a state minister I recall) and several zoo officials standing on a then chosen site for the Perth zoos open range zoo. I seem to recall that the main problem was lack of funding at that time. It's such a shame this never went ahead of giving Perth Zoo much more flexably when keeping some of the large game animals. I commented at the time perhaps one of the WA billionaires could not have stepped up at the time and donated the money towards its purchase. fourth Open Range zoo would have been ideal in working with the three existing zoos we now have.
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This plan was scrapped in 2017:

Perth’s open-range zoo is cancelled

The McGowan Government does not intend to proceed with former premier Colin Barnett’s plan for an open-range zoo in Lower Chittering.

Environment Minister Stephen Dawson this week confirmed the development of the open-range concept was not part of the Labor Government’s election commitments.

Mr Barnett’s plan was to use 700ha of land vested with the Department of Parks and Wildlife in the embankments of the Avon Valley to display elephants, bears, lions, pygmy hippopotamuses, baboons, giraffes and Australian animals.
 
In my opinion Perth zoo is probably the best zoo in Perth. Because the last time I went to Ranger Red Zoo the Animals where in very small spaces and there were food wrappers and can in the exhibits and they also claimed to have a Saltwater Crocodile but it was the most tiniest exhibit I have ever seen
With a small Crocodile statue. And Caversham wildlife park is very good it’s interactive and the animals has a lot to room its just not that Educational and it’s just missing something. That’s why everyday I just wish that a new zoo opens in Perth.:)
 
@Jaiden

Perth Zoo definitely best zoo in Perth and WA; and the only animal park in WA to (**pretty much) house exotic species since Pearl Coast Zoo closed down in 1991 (wasnt open very long) and Wanneroo Lion Park closed down in 1988. Ranger Red's Zoo is good but at present still its a native wildlife park which is great with doing that, but Perth Zoo is essentially the sole exotic animal keeping institute of the state. (Exotic species exception notes from recent history too for Malcolm Douglas's Crocodile Park {now closed down too} once having some exotic crocodilians and alligators and Komodo dragons; & **some of the wildlife parks in the state sometimes having some exotics like parrots,ostriches, dromedary camels, water buffalos and red foxes albeit the latter three species ferally located and obtained in Aus', and think Caversham WP had black-handed spider monkeys for a time). But WA is still very much a one zoo state if a zoo is defined as housing exotic species too (think the area especially south of Perth from Bunbury to Margaret River (say Capel ouskirts or Busselton outskirts most central area in that general catchment with significant population of people living there) is a very potentially viable region for a privately owned zoo on the 'scale' of say Halls Gap, Gorge, Shoalhaven, Symbio, ZooDoo, Billabong or Mansfield or hopefully even 'vaster' perhaps like say Tasmania Zoo, DDZ, Mogo, Hunter Valley, Altina, Aus' Zoo, Wildlife HQ or National Zoo Canberra.
 
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Yeah there is no other zoo in Western Australia which holds exotic species like Lions,Tigers and giraffes. And no zoo down south then Perth or north.
Evan tho the main reason of a zoo is Conservation and Education most Zoos/Wildlife Parks in Western Australia are mainly good at the Conservation part they are that good at the Education part if you where to compare Perth zoos Tiger Exhibit and then compare it to Taronga zoos Tigers Exhibit Taronga is good at Educating people and also good at the Conservation.
 
Jaiden said:
Does anyone know if the Western Swamp Tortoise is apart of the Primate crossing?
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Looking at the masterplan, it seems more probable they’ll be part of the Conservation Science Precinct:

A Future Vision For Perth Zoo

The Conservation Science Precinct will bring critical behind-the-scenes work to the forefront, showcasing veterinary, scientific and conservation activities essential to animal health and the continued existence of unique Western Australian species.

It will include a new state-of-the-art veterinary hospital where visitors get prime viewing into the life-saving work that takes place at the Zoo every day. It will feature world-class breeding facilities for some of WA’s most endangered species including the State’s mammal emblem, the Numbat.

The science and research centre will connect innovative state, national, and global partners and showcase the ground-breaking work being carried out in conservation science. It will explore the nexus between bush and western science and communicate the natural wonders of our state through storytelling; and create existing and new pathways for Aboriginal engagement, through design and construction, education pathways and ongoing employment opportunities.
 
Jaiden said:
Hi everyone here is something I have been working on for a while
It is a map of Perth zoo and what it could possibly look like once the master plan is finished.View attachment 765708
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How did you create this?

Look's pretty accurate imo (or at least from what I envision too). Snow Leopards, Bongo and Indian Rhino are probably unlikely however considering the current statuses of those species within the region. With the Indian Rhino, they were floated as being replacement for the elephants but they've now gone with the African Savannah extension instead; likely due to the unavailability of Indian Rhinos regionally.
 
I use an app called Ibis paint and I get the map icons of goggle or the zoos website. And sometimes I make my own icons.
 
Jaiden said:
Hi everyone here is something I have been working on for a while
It is a map of Perth zoo and what it could possibly look like once the master plan is finished.View attachment 765708
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Nice work. Lots of good ideas.

I’d be doubtful of Malayan tapir given their unsuitability to the Australian climate (bright sun causes blindness); but there’s been a renewed interest in Brazilian tapir, so they’re a possibility.

Snow leopard wouldn’t suit the WA climate, but Sri Lankan leopards would be a good choice and could replace sun bears in the current plans.
 
@Jaiden

It looks really really good Jaiden, the work you put into it and working with the info they have shared about what the plans are for the zoo, especially with the African Savannah and the Main Lake and Lawn arboreal ropeways (Primate Run thanks @Zoofan15 I forgot the actual name they were calling it) that will be complete very soon. You did a great job with man.

Like Jambo said and though would love to see Indian Rhino, Snow Leopards and Bongos theres probably a lot challenges with the zoo actually being able to have these species in the near future, but really cool to see the concept map just as it is. Hoping there is a place in future for Sun Bears to still be at the zoo even after the unfortunate times hopefully not for a long while when Jamran & Bopha are no longer around.

Think that there could be some hope perhaps for Black Rhinos perhaps as mentioned previously, when in the future (again hopefully not for some time) the Memphis and the two females have reached their longevity limits.

Remember being excited seeing a Bongo drawn on the concept art in the previous masterplan artwork for what the upgraded 'Savannah might look like.

This is just a personal wish and one hundred percent speculation, but have long thought and hoped that PZ might consider Clouded Leopards and find the appropriately needed space to house them within the Asian Rainforest precinct (personally thought they should scrap reviving Harmony Farm for expanding on the Asian Rainforest area).

But really great concept map man, it looks fantastic.
 
Jaiden said:
The only thing on this map is that I don’t know much of the Primate trail.
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The primate run is covered in more detail here:

Works swing into action on Perth Zoo's newest attraction | Perth Zoo

It will predominantly feature gibbons, but it would come as no surprise to see aerial tunnels for tamarins etc like they have at Adelaide Zoo.

It’s good to see orangutans feature strongly in the current masterplan. Perth’s colony have been an integral part of the zoo’s history and are one of their most popular attractions. The zoo acknowledges the once revolutionary complex is at the end of its lifespan and so it’s good to see investment in renewal of this.
 
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