Pics from my private zoo in Myanmar
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Just got back from my Thai trip, showed to be very rewarding. It nearly ruined me hehe, but well worth it. Bought some very special birds. Oh, and all of my reptiles as well as the serval (exchange for Rufous hornbills) is gone now as well.
This is what I bought:
1.1Rufous Hornbill
1.1Pheasant Pigeon
2.2 Papuan Hornbill (West Papuan form)
1.2 Bushy-crested Hornbill
2.5 Green Magpie (klossi subspecies)
1.0 Black Hornbill
3.5 Double-spurred Francolin (keeping with my Hartlaubs)
1.1 Cape Thick-knee
The majority of the birds are still in Thailand and wont be brought for another 2 weeks or so, due to lack of space at the moment. The thick-knees, Rufous Hornbills and Pheasant-pigeons are here in Myanmar already, will post photos of them soon.
I have made some great progress on my plans to aquaire a pair of Helmeted Hornbills, 7 young birds arrived to Thailand last week, from a reintoduction project in Malaysia. Plans is to distribute birds to Thai zoos as well as “give away†a few (3-4 pairs) to devoted private hornbill breeders. The plan is to have a breeding population in Thailand soon, a good friend of mine hope to get birds in December 07, I will hopefully get one of the first ones he will hatch, if he will hatch any that is.
Starting to work on my mammal collection as well, about to start building on a deer incloaser, plans is to get brown-antlered deer (Burmese subspecies) as well as Hog deer.
This is what I bought:
1.1Rufous Hornbill
1.1Pheasant Pigeon
2.2 Papuan Hornbill (West Papuan form)
1.2 Bushy-crested Hornbill
2.5 Green Magpie (klossi subspecies)
1.0 Black Hornbill
3.5 Double-spurred Francolin (keeping with my Hartlaubs)
1.1 Cape Thick-knee
The majority of the birds are still in Thailand and wont be brought for another 2 weeks or so, due to lack of space at the moment. The thick-knees, Rufous Hornbills and Pheasant-pigeons are here in Myanmar already, will post photos of them soon.
I have made some great progress on my plans to aquaire a pair of Helmeted Hornbills, 7 young birds arrived to Thailand last week, from a reintoduction project in Malaysia. Plans is to distribute birds to Thai zoos as well as “give away†a few (3-4 pairs) to devoted private hornbill breeders. The plan is to have a breeding population in Thailand soon, a good friend of mine hope to get birds in December 07, I will hopefully get one of the first ones he will hatch, if he will hatch any that is.
Starting to work on my mammal collection as well, about to start building on a deer incloaser, plans is to get brown-antlered deer (Burmese subspecies) as well as Hog deer.
hi sebbe67,
from my experiences in thailand, the country suffers from an exceptional lack of control over the illegal smuggling of wild-caught wildlife. i have litte doubt myanmar is much the same. many of the species you keep seem quite valuable at least in western countries. are any members of your collection endangered in the wild and if so how do you ensure that you are not indirectly contributing the the trade in purchasing such animals?
from my experiences in thailand, the country suffers from an exceptional lack of control over the illegal smuggling of wild-caught wildlife. i have litte doubt myanmar is much the same. many of the species you keep seem quite valuable at least in western countries. are any members of your collection endangered in the wild and if so how do you ensure that you are not indirectly contributing the the trade in purchasing such animals?
Hello Patrick,
Well, yes Thailand do have problems with the smuggling of rare species but this trade is considerbly smaller than for example Indonesia, Singapore and Vietnam. Hunting endangered species for its bones or pelts is the main threat in Thailand. I dont know much about the wild life trade in Myanmar, except from the northern and central parts I think it is very limited as the forests here still harbour a huge number of species rare elsewhere in south-east Asia, I have tigers in my garden 4 times already and I live in a agricultural area.
Several birds I keep is endangered in the wild, but as I have explained earlier, almost all my birds comes from well respected, well etableded breeders which has breed these species for several generations already. Sure the originally individuals of most species I keep has been caught in the wild but most has been captive breed for several generations now. There is also a good ex-change with zoos in the region. Aim always carefull to ask around before I buy any birds. The Rufuos Hornbills are orginally from a Manila based breeder for example.
Some animals is brought to me by local people these are wild ones but I dont see how I contribute to the trade when I get them for free from well mening people, I also release almost all of these birds in the wild within 1-2 weeks.
There is enought explotation of the wildlife of s-east asia as it is, I was at the Myanmar west coast 6 months ago and tourists basically formed a line outside a hotell to get photographed with baby elephants, baby tigers and white-bellied sea-eagles, this kind of things contribute to this trade even more and is just said to see how badly educated alot of people are, would they do the same thing at home? I doubt it.
I give much back to nature, I have for example rehabilated over 30 animals which would have been dead otherweise and aim also working together with several organisations to reintroduce rare birds in the wild. And I try very hard not to be involved in this trade in anyway.
thats good to hear.
just to make clear i was not accusing you, just questioning how you avoid becoming at least indirectly involved given the lack of policing such trades in the region.
agreed thailand is not as bad as indonesia but i've seen all sorts of animals for sale there, from natives such slow loris (oh yeah i HAVE seen a loris before!) and tree shrews to star tortoises, caiman, anaconda and all sorts of exotic smuggled wildlife.
and theres a fair few smuggled orangutans in the country too!
just to make clear i was not accusing you, just questioning how you avoid becoming at least indirectly involved given the lack of policing such trades in the region.
agreed thailand is not as bad as indonesia but i've seen all sorts of animals for sale there, from natives such slow loris (oh yeah i HAVE seen a loris before!) and tree shrews to star tortoises, caiman, anaconda and all sorts of exotic smuggled wildlife.
and theres a fair few smuggled orangutans in the country too!
Hi Sebbe!
As an asian bird fan, I'm really interested in what I just saw! Especially your hornbill and pheasant collection!!
I'm mostly photographer, unfortunately not bird keeper or breeder, but who knows, someday... and I'm strongly looking to take pictures of Bulwer's pheasants, Helmeted hornbills and other beauties!
Do you have any info concerning where to find Bulwer's pheasants in captivity in Malaysia, Singapore or Thailand these days??
I'm planning to go back to Asia for a month or two at the end of next year for some zoo photographying (and possibly a trip to Rainforest habitat in lae)... If it's doable, I may come to visit you
Anyways!! You have a really nice collection and I wish you great success with breeding all these rare species! Maybe you should get in touch with Birdpark Walsrode's present curator! He's a very nice guy and a friend of mine... really knowledgable about hornbill's breeding and birds of paradise amongst others!
As an asian bird fan, I'm really interested in what I just saw! Especially your hornbill and pheasant collection!!
I'm mostly photographer, unfortunately not bird keeper or breeder, but who knows, someday... and I'm strongly looking to take pictures of Bulwer's pheasants, Helmeted hornbills and other beauties!
Do you have any info concerning where to find Bulwer's pheasants in captivity in Malaysia, Singapore or Thailand these days??
I'm planning to go back to Asia for a month or two at the end of next year for some zoo photographying (and possibly a trip to Rainforest habitat in lae)... If it's doable, I may come to visit you
Anyways!! You have a really nice collection and I wish you great success with breeding all these rare species! Maybe you should get in touch with Birdpark Walsrode's present curator! He's a very nice guy and a friend of mine... really knowledgable about hornbill's breeding and birds of paradise amongst others!
Where is your amazing private collection?
Hi Sebbe!
As an asian bird fan, I'm really interested in what I just saw! Especially your hornbill and pheasant collection!!
I'm mostly photographer, unfortunately not bird keeper or breeder, but who knows, someday... and I'm strongly looking to take pictures of Bulwer's pheasants, Helmeted hornbills and other beauties!
Do you have any info concerning where to find Bulwer's pheasants in captivity in Malaysia, Singapore or Thailand these days??
I'm planning to go back to Asia for a month or two at the end of next year for some zoo photographying (and possibly a trip to Rainforest habitat in lae)... If it's doable, I may come to visit you
Anyways!! You have a really nice collection and I wish you great success with breeding all these rare species! Maybe you should get in touch with Birdpark Walsrode's present curator! He's a very nice guy and a friend of mine... really knowledgable about hornbill's breeding and birds of paradise amongst others!
Hello Pedro,
Yeah as my favoruites are hornbills and pheasants I have tried to focuse on these ones, still mainly keeps the most common only however and I dont know if I will keep these or doing some exchange next year. My aim is to only keep uncommon or rare species 5-6 years into the future (if aim still here that is).
Sorry but I dont have much knowledge about were to find any Bulwer Pheasants in Asian zoos aim afraid, I have mainly visited Thai zoos and I have not seen any in any of these, several has kept them in the past but not anylonger sadly, probably still remain in some Thai zoo but I dont now where
Could be some in Peninsular Malaysia, dont know were though, try to contact the Pheasant specialist group, they should now.
I know that the Bulwer Pheasant has been kept in several private zoos on its native Island (Borneo) and I have seen in the care of two bird keepers in Kuching last year, I know that one of them no longer keeps it (these was a pair wild caught in 2003 and apparently released back into the wild now in 2007), I dont have any info about the other guy that keept this species in 2006, he keept a large number of intresting species but due to to high costs he had to get rid of several species later on, I have lost contact with him. But I have heard that he just keeps a very small number of birds now. With his Bulwers (he had 3 birds, 1 male and 2 females) likely to be gone.
But aim sure that the species still is being kept by at least a few people in private care, asking around in Sandakan or Kota Kinabalu would be advicable.
There should be several in the care of private breeders in Thailand (5-15 if I have to guess) as it is from these sources I have obtained my male. My bird come from a guy that also had this species in the past but has stopped entirely with bird keeping (Mr Shun Kwang is his name), he never had more than 2 birds at most and I bought his male after the female had died. Thailand is likely to keep the majority of the birds kept in captivity and Europe has most likely recieved all its birds from Thailand. No one acctually knows how many remains in Thailand, this was used to be treated as a status symbol in the past and few people who aqquaired them rarely cared much for the birds. Few was intrested in breeding them, a few birds slipped out and its the from these the remaning birds decend.
This species is almost gone from captivity now (which is both good and bad), I dont think there is any in North America anylonger and almost gone from Europe now (1 pair in a France zoo according to ISIS). As I said earlier several Asian zoos I know of had this species in the past, but not anymore, uncesful breeding is probably why. Dr. H.E. Lopez of Mexico kept it in the past AS WELL but no longer keeps it.
I have heard people claimed that there is still over 50 in captivity, thats just silly and I dont know what these people base this upon. They suggest that many is keept by rich sheiks in the middle east.
Sure, it would probably the possibly for you to come and visit me, I dont know what plans I have for next year but we can follow this up for sure. Sounds like you will have a nice time, the forest habitat on New Guinea I havent heard anything about in years strangly, if somone visit it we may know more. Its still there for sure.
This is for you Pedro, abit about the Bulwer Pheasant and its history in captivity, if you manage to sort of the difficult history you may be ablet to locate some of the birds.
This is from a freind of mine in Belgium that discussed the status of this bird in early 2006.
The trouble with Bulwer's Wattled Pheasants is that only a small number of wild-taken birds has left the country of origin (Borneo).
Only a few of these birds (not more than 40 specimens) has finally ended up in the hands of some specialist breeders, and all the other birds (100/.../150)ended up in "zoos" who are far more interested for the exemptional beauty of this tropical pheasant as a "showbird", but who lack the adequate expertise to breed from this species.
Something like 12 wild-taken pairs of Bulwer's Wattled Pheasants have been imported in the early ninetien seventies by Sivelle, NY, USA, and a good number of youngsters (between 30/.../50) has been bred at this collection in the late seventies and early eigthies, proving the fact that it is possible to breed from this gallopheasant. Most of the Bulwer's Wattled pheasant presently kept in various zoos in the Western world originate from Sivelle.
Several new wild-caugth birds have been taken out of Indonesia without proper documents recently, and are now in the hands of wealthy collectioners, living in Asia and the Middle East, who lack the correct expertise to work and breed from this species.
The trouble with Bulwer's is that most of the birds which were taken out of Indonesia, did arrive in the wrong hands during the last 3 decades.
My experience since 1975 tells me that it are especially zoos and wealthy collectioners all over the world, who want to get their hands on this unique species, not to study them neither to protect them, but mainly to own and show them to the rest of the world. It is common sense that something like this must be stopped by all means.
there are Bulwer's Wattled hens laying eggs like chickens (20/25 eggs per season) in Europe. However, they have no partner, and those who have the corresponding partners do not want to move any birds. As such, no Bulwer's are being bred, and the captive population is dying out.
The present owners (and luckily I am not one of them) are collectioners, not breeders. They want to own and not to breed this unique pheasant species.
There are several collections in Japan and elsewhere that keep the birds with some limited success. The species is apparently also kept by private people in Switzerland, Mexico and China still.
This is from a freind of mine in Belgium that discussed the status of this bird in early 2006.
The trouble with Bulwer's Wattled Pheasants is that only a small number of wild-taken birds has left the country of origin (Borneo).
Only a few of these birds (not more than 40 specimens) has finally ended up in the hands of some specialist breeders, and all the other birds (100/.../150)ended up in "zoos" who are far more interested for the exemptional beauty of this tropical pheasant as a "showbird", but who lack the adequate expertise to breed from this species.
Something like 12 wild-taken pairs of Bulwer's Wattled Pheasants have been imported in the early ninetien seventies by Sivelle, NY, USA, and a good number of youngsters (between 30/.../50) has been bred at this collection in the late seventies and early eigthies, proving the fact that it is possible to breed from this gallopheasant. Most of the Bulwer's Wattled pheasant presently kept in various zoos in the Western world originate from Sivelle.
Several new wild-caugth birds have been taken out of Indonesia without proper documents recently, and are now in the hands of wealthy collectioners, living in Asia and the Middle East, who lack the correct expertise to work and breed from this species.
The trouble with Bulwer's is that most of the birds which were taken out of Indonesia, did arrive in the wrong hands during the last 3 decades.
My experience since 1975 tells me that it are especially zoos and wealthy collectioners all over the world, who want to get their hands on this unique species, not to study them neither to protect them, but mainly to own and show them to the rest of the world. It is common sense that something like this must be stopped by all means.
there are Bulwer's Wattled hens laying eggs like chickens (20/25 eggs per season) in Europe. However, they have no partner, and those who have the corresponding partners do not want to move any birds. As such, no Bulwer's are being bred, and the captive population is dying out.
The present owners (and luckily I am not one of them) are collectioners, not breeders. They want to own and not to breed this unique pheasant species.
There are several collections in Japan and elsewhere that keep the birds with some limited success. The species is apparently also kept by private people in Switzerland, Mexico and China still.
Hello Malayan Tapir,
My private zoo is located in the very south of Myanmar, 50km south of Myeik.
Some update as of November 2007.
My Rufous Hornbills, Double-spurred Francolins, Cape Thick-knees, Pheasant pigeons, Papuan hornbills and Bushy-crested hornbills all have settled in their incloasers.
Green Magpies is on their way. Will be here sometime in late November
The Black hornbill i still in Thailand and will remain there until I buy a second individual.
I have now made more progress in increasing my mammal collection. (I have adopted 7 street dogs so far!)
Discussion with Rangoon zoo is progressing. Burmese Brown-antlered deer could be here already in May-June 08. I would like to start with a betchelour herd on 3-4 individuals for starters, several Thai zoos is intrested on getting this subspecies of deer and I may work as a contact between Rangoon and Thai zoos, if I manage to get away these 2-3 then I hope I will get the trust to start recieve some females.
Mammals I plan to have here at my zoo at some point.
Burmese brown-antlered deer
Hog deer
Sambar deer
Guar (or Gayal)
Malayan Tapir
Marbled Cat
Leopard Cat
Fishing Cat
Burmese Hare
Sunda Pangolin
Hog Badger
Burmese Ferret-badger
Pig-tailed Macaque
Slow Loris
My Rufous Hornbills, Double-spurred Francolins, Cape Thick-knees, Pheasant pigeons, Papuan hornbills and Bushy-crested hornbills all have settled in their incloasers.
Green Magpies is on their way. Will be here sometime in late November
The Black hornbill i still in Thailand and will remain there until I buy a second individual.
I have now made more progress in increasing my mammal collection. (I have adopted 7 street dogs so far!)
Discussion with Rangoon zoo is progressing. Burmese Brown-antlered deer could be here already in May-June 08. I would like to start with a betchelour herd on 3-4 individuals for starters, several Thai zoos is intrested on getting this subspecies of deer and I may work as a contact between Rangoon and Thai zoos, if I manage to get away these 2-3 then I hope I will get the trust to start recieve some females.
Mammals I plan to have here at my zoo at some point.
Burmese brown-antlered deer
Hog deer
Sambar deer
Guar (or Gayal)
Malayan Tapir
Marbled Cat
Leopard Cat
Fishing Cat
Burmese Hare
Sunda Pangolin
Hog Badger
Burmese Ferret-badger
Pig-tailed Macaque
Slow Loris
Writhedhornbill
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When are you thinking o getting helmeted hornbills, and what type of aviary would you propose to keep them in?
Hi Sebbe!
Thanks a lot for all these infos about Bulwer's pheasant!
I'll tell you as soon as I have more news concerning next year's trip to Asia and will definitely plan to visit you!
You may be interested also by knowing that I'm currently publishing, along with Vogelpark Walsrode's curator, an article about identification of "Coua" species (endemic madagascar birds from the cuculidae family) kept in zoos outside Madagascar.
It will be published soon in International zoo news.
Thanks a lot for all these infos about Bulwer's pheasant!
I'll tell you as soon as I have more news concerning next year's trip to Asia and will definitely plan to visit you!
You may be interested also by knowing that I'm currently publishing, along with Vogelpark Walsrode's curator, an article about identification of "Coua" species (endemic madagascar birds from the cuculidae family) kept in zoos outside Madagascar.
It will be published soon in International zoo news.
Hello Writhedhornbill,
As of now I dont have any aviaries suitable for placing a pair of Helmeted hornbills in, I have just built three new larger ones to keep my other hornbills in, all other large avaries is already occupied and the smaller ones dont working placing Helmeted Hornbills in.
I will have to build one for them, they are large birds and will need a big aviary, as I want to breed them as well the aviary will have to be the best I can provide. When I get them i dont plan to keep them on public display either, I have to keep something for myself for once. With minimum disturbance and a great aviary I hope to suceed with breeding them.
I have yet to decide exactly how I will construct the aviary, aim in contact wity people in Malaysia and they will perhaps come up and help me, these are the experts after all.
I do have CITES pappers for all of the endangered species exported from Thailand and Malaysia to Myanmar, the trade these species in Myanmar is badly controlled and you rarely needs any pappers if you buy a bird in Myanmar.
Dont have any pappers for the casswarries for ex.
BTW, the plans to keep mammals has been put on ice once again. If I get any the first wont arrive until the second quarter of 2008.
Thought it was about time to update the list
1.Southern Cassowary
2. Northern Cassowary (still immature)
3. Lesser Adjutant
4. Black Swan
5. Hartlaub's Duck
6. Great Argus
7. Green Junglefowl
8. Crested Fireback (nobilis and rufa subspecies)
9. Bulwer Pheasant
10. Silver pheasant (nominate race, occidentalis and ripponi)
11. Green peafowl (muticus subspecies)
12. Mountain Bamboo Partridge
13. Oriental Pied Hornbill
14. Wreathed Hornbill
15. Wrinkled Hornbill
16. White-crowned Hornbill
17. Rufous Hornbill
18. Papuan Hornbill
19. Bushy-crested Hornbill
20. Black Hornbill
21. Green Magpie
22. Great Hornbill
23. White-crested Hornbill
24. Trumpeter Hornbill
25. Great Curassow
26. Red-knobbed Imperial-Pigeon
27. Blue-winged Kookaburra
28. Pheasant Pigeon
29. Double-spurred Francolin
30. Cape Thick-knee
I dont keep any mammals or reptiles anymore, new mammals probably coming second quarter of 2008.
Just a few updates on the bird front, has been in contact with alot of organisations all over south-east Asia for the past 7-8 months or so and alot of birds has left me in the past 2 weeks, several species just moved to profauna in Indonesia and a few other gone for various reasons, or will be going early next year, as soon as the papper work is sorted out. Almost all going to either nature organistations or conservation projets of some sort.
A sad time for me and I will surely miss most of the birds as they have been with me for sometime now but after much considering I have choosen to limit myself to only a few groups of birds (hornbills, pheasants, endangered waterbirds etc), I have already built several new avaries but its very expensive and I just dont feel like spending ALL my money on the birds. With fewer birds I will hopefully get a better economy and can make improvments for the remaning species. Plan is to keep no more than 25-30 species in the end.
Only over the past month my bird collection has got considerbly smaller, these are the ones which I no longer keeps.
Swinhoe Pheasant (my male sadly become sick and died sometime ago)
Indian Peafowl (the last ones had to bee put down to sleep)
Java Hill-Partridge(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Rosenberg Lory(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Great-billed Parrot(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Medium sulfur-crested cockatoo (moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Javan Red Junglefowl(moved to Profauna Indonesia, reintroduction planned)
Scops owl(made an excellent recovery and released back into the wild)
Burmese Red Junglefowl(the few I had has been released on my property, come and goes as they like)
Chatam chickens(given away to local farmer)
Reeves Pheasant(going to Japan in December for reintroduction purpose)
Black-throated Laughingthrush(given to a co-worker, a good friend of mine)
I do not anylonger consider me to be the owner of the following ones, all leaving me in the first half of 2008.
Buffy Fish-Owl (will go to Jurong, and hopefully start breeding)
Marbled Frogmouth(going to Jurong as well)
Pied Imperial-Pigeon(going to be moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Indian Red Junglefowl, Indian Grey Junglefowl (going to India in Jan 08 for breeding purpose) andBar-headed goose are ALL going to India.
Plain Chacalaca(going to a private breeder in Mexico), possibly sending theCurrasows to the same breeder if a ex-change of somesort can be worked out.
Plans is to get sell the Laughing, Kookaburra, my Black Swans as well some pigeons in 2008, just need to find anyone intresting to take these on.
1.Southern Cassowary
2. Northern Cassowary (still immature)
3. Lesser Adjutant
4. Black Swan
5. Hartlaub's Duck
6. Great Argus
7. Green Junglefowl
8. Crested Fireback (nobilis and rufa subspecies)
9. Bulwer Pheasant
10. Silver pheasant (nominate race, occidentalis and ripponi)
11. Green peafowl (muticus subspecies)
12. Mountain Bamboo Partridge
13. Oriental Pied Hornbill
14. Wreathed Hornbill
15. Wrinkled Hornbill
16. White-crowned Hornbill
17. Rufous Hornbill
18. Papuan Hornbill
19. Bushy-crested Hornbill
20. Black Hornbill
21. Green Magpie
22. Great Hornbill
23. White-crested Hornbill
24. Trumpeter Hornbill
25. Great Curassow
26. Red-knobbed Imperial-Pigeon
27. Blue-winged Kookaburra
28. Pheasant Pigeon
29. Double-spurred Francolin
30. Cape Thick-knee
I dont keep any mammals or reptiles anymore, new mammals probably coming second quarter of 2008.
Just a few updates on the bird front, has been in contact with alot of organisations all over south-east Asia for the past 7-8 months or so and alot of birds has left me in the past 2 weeks, several species just moved to profauna in Indonesia and a few other gone for various reasons, or will be going early next year, as soon as the papper work is sorted out. Almost all going to either nature organistations or conservation projets of some sort.
A sad time for me and I will surely miss most of the birds as they have been with me for sometime now but after much considering I have choosen to limit myself to only a few groups of birds (hornbills, pheasants, endangered waterbirds etc), I have already built several new avaries but its very expensive and I just dont feel like spending ALL my money on the birds. With fewer birds I will hopefully get a better economy and can make improvments for the remaning species. Plan is to keep no more than 25-30 species in the end.
Only over the past month my bird collection has got considerbly smaller, these are the ones which I no longer keeps.
Swinhoe Pheasant (my male sadly become sick and died sometime ago)
Indian Peafowl (the last ones had to bee put down to sleep)
Java Hill-Partridge(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Rosenberg Lory(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Great-billed Parrot(moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Medium sulfur-crested cockatoo (moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Javan Red Junglefowl(moved to Profauna Indonesia, reintroduction planned)
Scops owl(made an excellent recovery and released back into the wild)
Burmese Red Junglefowl(the few I had has been released on my property, come and goes as they like)
Chatam chickens(given away to local farmer)
Reeves Pheasant(going to Japan in December for reintroduction purpose)
Black-throated Laughingthrush(given to a co-worker, a good friend of mine)
I do not anylonger consider me to be the owner of the following ones, all leaving me in the first half of 2008.
Buffy Fish-Owl (will go to Jurong, and hopefully start breeding)
Marbled Frogmouth(going to Jurong as well)
Pied Imperial-Pigeon(going to be moved to Profauna Indonesia)
Indian Red Junglefowl, Indian Grey Junglefowl (going to India in Jan 08 for breeding purpose) andBar-headed goose are ALL going to India.
Plain Chacalaca(going to a private breeder in Mexico), possibly sending theCurrasows to the same breeder if a ex-change of somesort can be worked out.
Plans is to get sell the Laughing, Kookaburra, my Black Swans as well some pigeons in 2008, just need to find anyone intresting to take these on.
Writhedhornbill
Well-Known Member
What happened to your red birds of paradise?
Had to put them to sleep sadly, my male had big problems with one of his eyes and was clearly bothered by it. I tried to fix the problem in several ways but it never got better. I could have kept him but as he had such a poor eye sight he got really stressed when its was feeding time or when he heard noices outside of the aviary. aim a educated vetenarian so I choose to put him to sleep to keep him out of his misery.
My female got dipressed I think when she lost her male (had been together for at least 5 years), almost stopped eating and just sat on the same branch for most of the days, I was contact with several people but no one was intrested in taking her. After long and hard consideration I choose to put her to sleep as well, in my opinion she would only get worse and it would be a shame to make her suffer even more. It was a very difficult dessescion to put the female to sleep but I feel I made the right one.
My plans was to send them to the same thai zoo as my Lesser BOP male but that never happened as they were not intrested to take on a single female.
Writhedhornbill
Well-Known Member
Sad news sebbe67. Especially as they could have bred.
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