People have found bighorn sheep, flamingo (probably Chilean or Caribbean), and white-faced saki on the banners.
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@PossumRoach, I noticed that as well, although, I don’t really get the White-Faced Saki hype at the moment.
Based on what we were provided, this will likely be some sort of “Americas” Animal Pack; which is a welcome theme to look forward to.
Based on what we were provided, this will likely be some sort of “Americas” Animal Pack; which is a welcome theme to look forward to.
I think the saki is a nice addition but with non-ape monkeys, Frontier has to go big or go home. A single saki monkey still won’t fill the huge gap left for NW monkeys alone. Hell even a second NW monkey still won’t fill the gap.
@PossumRoach, I was moreso asking about why are people saying that this is the species depicted on the banners over something like the highly-requested Black Howler Monkey?
Because it looks like a white faces saki..? The big round cut-out hole with the little spot in the middle looks more like a white faced saki than a howler monkey screaming with its mouth open. I also recall the saki as a wanted species over its popularity in Europe.
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There are talks on the Planet Zoo forum after other species were spotted on the banners above the Coyote including White-faced Saki, Bighorn Sheep, another Flamingo species, and likely other species will be confirmed over the coming weeks.
As for the Animals in this Pack.
Coyotes: Not much of a Popular Zoo animal, but because they are adaptable, they can be placed in any biome you can think of: Desert, Forest, Wetland, Grassland, Tundra, and even Rainforest.
Rhea: It's the Last of the Great Ratite Flightless Birds that is highly requested which started off with the Ostrich (Base Game) Southern Cassowary (Australia Pack), Emu (Grasslands Pack), North Island Brown Kiwi (Oceania Pack), and now the Rhea completes it and would be great addition for the South American Grasslands.
Bighorn Sheep: It's one of the Original Zoo Tycoon Animals, and it is the Hardest to build a proper habitat for them. It's also a classic Mountain Sheep, and I think people want this instead of the Dall's Sheep.
Flamingo: My best bet is the American or Caribbean Flamingo because of their brighter pink colors and the news of their comeback and native status in Florida. I read somewhere about an update regarding skin variations for their animals; they have yet to add skin variations for animals like flamingos that get their color from the food they eat based on diet. perhaps they'll add that here.
Monkey: I think it is the White-faced Saki Monkey. we need another South American Monkey in the South American Rainforest.
Coyotes: Not much of a Popular Zoo animal, but because they are adaptable, they can be placed in any biome you can think of: Desert, Forest, Wetland, Grassland, Tundra, and even Rainforest.
Rhea: It's the Last of the Great Ratite Flightless Birds that is highly requested which started off with the Ostrich (Base Game) Southern Cassowary (Australia Pack), Emu (Grasslands Pack), North Island Brown Kiwi (Oceania Pack), and now the Rhea completes it and would be great addition for the South American Grasslands.
Bighorn Sheep: It's one of the Original Zoo Tycoon Animals, and it is the Hardest to build a proper habitat for them. It's also a classic Mountain Sheep, and I think people want this instead of the Dall's Sheep.
Flamingo: My best bet is the American or Caribbean Flamingo because of their brighter pink colors and the news of their comeback and native status in Florida. I read somewhere about an update regarding skin variations for their animals; they have yet to add skin variations for animals like flamingos that get their color from the food they eat based on diet. perhaps they'll add that here.
Monkey: I think it is the White-faced Saki Monkey. we need another South American Monkey in the South American Rainforest.
Wildlife Watcher
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Really looking forward to the release of this pack. I'm especially excited about the addition of the coyote and bighorn sheep, since they're such iconic symbols of the American frontier that are unfortunately overlooked by most zoo games.
I'm also happy about the addition of the rhea, not only because it rounds out the ratites, but because birds in general are severely underrepresented in the game.
I'm not quite sure how to feel about the saki monkey and flamingo rumors. I wouldn't be against their inclusion, but it seems strange to have tropical animals in a western-themed pack.
Personally, I hope this pack includes some kind of exhibit animal, like a desert tortoise or a coral snake, since we haven't gotten any of those in a while.
I'm also happy about the addition of the rhea, not only because it rounds out the ratites, but because birds in general are severely underrepresented in the game.
I'm not quite sure how to feel about the saki monkey and flamingo rumors. I wouldn't be against their inclusion, but it seems strange to have tropical animals in a western-themed pack.
Personally, I hope this pack includes some kind of exhibit animal, like a desert tortoise or a coral snake, since we haven't gotten any of those in a while.
They're more than rumors, they're literally displayed on the scenery in the official screenshot. It's maybe one step below confirmed because it's open to artistic interpretation, but it's essentially confirmed.
That being said, the Africa DLC had North African scenery, whereas it had mostly South African animals (three South African animals compared to two North African animals) so the scenery and the animals not matching up has precedent.
Hmm, not really the route I was hoping for with the next pack. Coyote is of no interest to me, and Bighorn when we already have Dall Sheep and just got Markhor is pretty eh.
I'm ok with Rhea though there's other ground birds I would have liked more (looks at Secretarybird). Flamingo isn't a bad pick given their high prevalence in zoos.
Saki. Over howler, squirrel, spider, and tamarin? I sure hope not. I don't have anything against sakis but that is not the new world Monkey topping my list for the game.
Not sure what I would want as far as an exhibit animal, most of the gaping holes are from the old world. Matamata maybe I guess? Or perhaps Caiman Lizard since we stick Lizards in boxes.
I'm ok with Rhea though there's other ground birds I would have liked more (looks at Secretarybird). Flamingo isn't a bad pick given their high prevalence in zoos.
Saki. Over howler, squirrel, spider, and tamarin? I sure hope not. I don't have anything against sakis but that is not the new world Monkey topping my list for the game.
Not sure what I would want as far as an exhibit animal, most of the gaping holes are from the old world. Matamata maybe I guess? Or perhaps Caiman Lizard since we stick Lizards in boxes.
Looks like it will be a New World pack, the species choices...
Coyote: totally not interested, I guess the reason why the Frontier offers this is that， few days ago a Modder announced a decent work of Coyote, and the Frontier just "robs" the attention and market. Otherwise, Ocelot is definitively better pick for New World small carnivores, we have enough NA canids since there are 2 wolves and 2 foxes in the game already.
Rhea: fine with it since we don't really have New World birds yet
Flamingo: not a bad pick since there are several demands of New World Flamingo, but I would prefer Roseate Spoonbill
Saki: fine with it, since the game really needs more New World monkeys, the higher-demanded Black Howler and Geoffrey Spider Monkey require more animations, the Frontier is still lazy as usual.
Bighorn Sheep: WTH is this pick, we already have Dall Sheep, this is too lazy pick. Why not give us Musk Ox?
If this pack doesn't offer Coati and Patagonian Mara, then it will be my least like pack ever of Planet Zoo
I guess this pack will offer 7 species like previous Farmland and Zookeeper packs, so 95 scenery pieces with Wild West US and early-modern Latin American themes, and no exhibit species.
I would say the financial hardship that Frontier suffers is way more serious than what I previously thought. I also heard the sale of Planet Coaster 2 is not successful. So the Frontier doesn't have enough resources to work on new models, and they have to make more easy copy & paste species. So don't expect too much on future upgrades or Planet Zoo's 2nd generation.
Coyote: totally not interested, I guess the reason why the Frontier offers this is that， few days ago a Modder announced a decent work of Coyote, and the Frontier just "robs" the attention and market. Otherwise, Ocelot is definitively better pick for New World small carnivores, we have enough NA canids since there are 2 wolves and 2 foxes in the game already.
Rhea: fine with it since we don't really have New World birds yet
Flamingo: not a bad pick since there are several demands of New World Flamingo, but I would prefer Roseate Spoonbill
Saki: fine with it, since the game really needs more New World monkeys, the higher-demanded Black Howler and Geoffrey Spider Monkey require more animations, the Frontier is still lazy as usual.
Bighorn Sheep: WTH is this pick, we already have Dall Sheep, this is too lazy pick. Why not give us Musk Ox?
If this pack doesn't offer Coati and Patagonian Mara, then it will be my least like pack ever of Planet Zoo
I guess this pack will offer 7 species like previous Farmland and Zookeeper packs, so 95 scenery pieces with Wild West US and early-modern Latin American themes, and no exhibit species.
I would say the financial hardship that Frontier suffers is way more serious than what I previously thought. I also heard the sale of Planet Coaster 2 is not successful. So the Frontier doesn't have enough resources to work on new models, and they have to make more easy copy & paste species. So don't expect too much on future upgrades or Planet Zoo's 2nd generation.
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Yeah the timing on that was a humdinger, that's for sure. It would have been all too easy to throw it in the pack at any point too, just shrink down the wolf rig.
Or instead of Ocelot, a coati, Ringtail, Kinkajou, Sea Otter, arguably even Harbor Seal.
They did it for the sifaka, proving they can certainly do it - so arguably less excuse.
Though if financials are tough, arguably bringing what people want to the table would be the logical move. Of the current suspects hinted in the promo image, the highest ranker on the PZ forum wishlist is rhea in 15th place. None of the others are in the top 20. Next highest is American Flamingo in 37th...
Does anyone have any idea when Frontier will reveal the pack name and details?
This is an incredible take.
Frontier will have been working on this pack for months. If a modder announced a similar species a few days ago that's unfortunate timing for them as presumably a lot of work will now go largely to waste but it can't be held to be Frontier's fault..! The official Coyote will have been all but completed before they even knew about the modder's version - how can they possibly be 'robbing' anything?
Plus, we don't know what the final species are, so maybe we should save complaining about what's missing until we actually know what's missing?
(for the record - if it is as, as seems to be, coyote/rhea/flamingo/sheep/what-looks-like-a-saki + two more then I'm personally hoping for coati and mara, but ocelot would be no bad thing either)
I believe last time was about a 2-week gap, which if they hold to it would line up for the traditional just-before-Easter slot for release, so that seems the most likely.
The modded Coyote was released close to two weeks ago, and was in the works for some time before that. So not quite "just announced", but yeah that's half the reason a number of mods haven't gotten updated or remastered, this isn't the first time there's been a coincidental overlap. Part of the gamble on the mod creation front.
Even so, it can't be a serious suggestion that Frontier chose to include a Coyote off the back of this mod? This will have been decided months ago at Frontier, possibly a year or more ago.
Plus - end of the day, it's Frontier's game - it's not for them to work around modders making unofficial changes and additions to it. They can add what they like. As you say, a risk a modder takes.
MC Baron
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Looks like a promising pack with some common zoo species (Rhea, Saki monkey, and American Flamingo) and some interesting North American animals as well. I'm hoping the yet-to-be-revealed picks include either Bobcat, Porcupine, or River Otter. All three are nearly ubiquitous in the zoos I've been to and would make for easy retools from existing animals.
Great that we're getting some proper American-themed scenery as well if they are indeed going with the western theme.
Great that we're getting some proper American-themed scenery as well if they are indeed going with the western theme.
